Why do adults sometimes throw fits when they don't get their way?
By smartie1685
@smartie1685 (450)
United States
February 20, 2007 6:23pm CST
I work in customer service so I have to deal with a fair share of idiots and crazy people. For example, its our policy not to return any dvds that have been opened we can just exchange them for the exact same thing. And this isn't just our policy, its a federal copyright law. One day this guy throw a huge fit because I told him he couldn't get cash back on a 30.00 dvd set. He even made me call a manager who also told him no. I felt like telling the guy that we aren't a renting service and until you buy a dvd you should know whether you want to keep it or not, but I didn't. :)
So what does everyone think about this kind of behavior? Are they just mad that they don't get what they want, or do they honestly think that by being so difficult that they will get their way? (Which probably 75% of the time does happen) Have these people just never grown up?
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@keepermykitty (2573)
• Canada
21 Feb 07
I believe some people like that were so spoiled and are used to getting what they want . Thats why they don`t
GROW-UP , Some people are given whatever they want when they want . I blame it on the way their brought up . They were given everything on a Silver Platter growing up and now are GREEDY PEOPLE .
I mean how can a person who has anything they want possibly ever grow up , especially once they cannot rely on MOMMY OR DADDY to fend for themselves . Thats why people are Ignorant and Selfish .
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Yeah thats what I think too. I like to imagine them as little kids dressed as adults when they do that. :)
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@dbeast (1495)
• India
12 Apr 07
they do get over their heads and really take out their frustrations on the persons trying to help them out.this not only get themselves worked out but also the persons trying to help them too.when they cant get things done they try raising their voice and try to get things.if the reasons are valid then there can be some sort of compensation but when the persons try to get things by screaming then things will never work that way.people sometimes can get real mean when they dont get their things done their way the way they want it to.i have been on the recieveing end so many times and it can be really frustrating.
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@Dominicc2003 (57)
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29 Apr 07
Well if it's a "stupid" policy or it's the companies fault, then I take it out on the company.
In this case it wasn't the companies fault... Unless the DVD was scratched or something (which I doubt).
@chertsy (3798)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Some people haven't grown up or have always gotten there way. That saying the customer is always right, isn't always right.
That idiot should of thought before putting down 30 bucks for a dvd set. There's a lot of places you can trade your dvd's for other things. EBgames you can trade computer games, computer things, video games, and gaming stuff, along with movies for store credit.
Wish I was there to see it though, you can always use a good laugh. I guess once you went to get the manager you had to have laughed at this guy, and another dose of patience. You should told him that your store wasn't a renting place, that he should check out blockbuster first before coming back next time, lol.
Should be a sign that states, if we think you are being loud, rude offensive we will have every right to remove you from our store. I have seen a lot of people being rude to people that just work there, like they woke up that morning and said I think I will screw someone over today over a movie. Gees.
@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
22 Feb 07
Yeah exactly and I do tell customers that they can take it to places like that, but then they won't get the whole amount so of course they're not happy. I once bought a movie and after watching it completely hated it, but I didn't try to return it. I understand that it was MY mistake. I wish I could tell people that we aren't a renting place, but I really don't think that would go over well. :) Yeah well the managers don't really remove people from the store unless they are being abusive. They don't want to lose a customer of course.
@KetanGulati (579)
• India
21 Feb 07
well that for sure is a pure sign on irresponsible behavior, erratic and immatured too,, But being at your end, I can understand how difficult it might be handling such kind of people almost daily..... right.....you cannot explain them things in YOUR tough wasy-- that makes them understand things at once -- you cant be loud -- you can't be rude.... you have to have an eveready smile on your face nomatter however rude the fron person is..... well I believe that is a good job.... you know it increases your patience level....right bro?
Even I have had encountered such situation in my life like so many times..... but have to bear it all in most of the cases -- when i am unable to then I prefer leavng the place.........or ignoring that person...
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
22 Feb 07
Yeah I guess it does build my patience a little, it also makes me very suspicious of people in general. :)
@CarlyLaine (759)
• United States
21 Feb 07
The reason ADULTS act up when they don't get their way is because of the way the business establishments treat their customers.
We, as adults, really try to maintain but in most cases the establishment is not there for the customer, the snotty-nosed customer service pimple-faced punks treat adults and every with disdain and total with no respect.
EXAMPLE:I purchased a phone from RADIO SHACK January '06. I used the phone for about ten times, and then cancelled the landline. In October '06 I started the phone service back up. The phone had been put away in the original box all of that time. I took the phone out and it worked one time. I took the phone back to RADIO SHACK with the original receipt.
A young punk cutesy girl said, "No, we will not take it back." I asked to speak with the mananger who was younger than the cutesy girl. He also said, "No, it's passed the 90 day warranty." I tried to reason with the pimple-faced punk manager. And I did yell. I yelled loud enough for everyone in the store to hear me. I said, "You don't or can't stand behind your products because if you did you'd understand my situation. Is this how you make money for the company you work for?"
He kept the phone and the receipt. I said, "What are you going to do? Put it back on the shelf so another sucker can buy it? Was that was how I got the first defective phone or do you purposely sell defective merchandise knowing that most people will not take the time to return it ON THE 90 DAY RETURN POLICY?" Every time I bought anything from RADIO SHACK it ceased to work.
It took me 2.5 hours to work enough to buy this phone. I work hard for my money.
The bottom line is: I understand that we're CAPITALISTS. But there is GOODWILL or should be on the part of the business. There is none of that anymore.
In your case SMARTIE1685 I understand the NO RETURN POLICY for opened DVDs. And if you were rude or condescending that could set a person off. If you're a youngster you may very well have had a attitude, which I see more and more and most youngsters know nothing of customer service. If any of you who are in customer service and are anything that I have described maybe another job would be more suited to you.
Just because a person says an opinion and is rightfully angry doesn't mean he is crazy. Some people are sick and tired of being treated like hapless apes. I am. And I'm not going to take it anymore!
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
22 Feb 07
I really don't think that we treat people badly. If we do at all its because the customers that are trying to scam us far out weigh those who are genuine. I also don't think its very nice of you to refer to customer service people as "pimple-faced punks" if you think that way when you are talking to them, than the stereotype will affect all of what you say and what they say. That will be the only thing that you see, not the actual person. And in your situation I understand why you were upset. But why didn't you just take the phone back when you canceled the service? I also understand their perspective, for all they knew you had used the phone the whole time and brought it back when you needed money. I'm not saying thats what you did, but thats what most people are trying to do and its really hard to tell which is which sometimes. If we let the honest ones do it, we would have to let everybody do it and the company would lose a lot of money while the scammers gained.
It would be nice if we could have goodwill all the time, but like I said thats impossible because most customers are not honest themselves. They will take things off the shelves and return it. They will steal from another store and return it at mine. They will buy a new tv and return the old one in its box. If people didn't do these things than it would be possible to help each customer with what they wanted without having to suspect fraud. But its not possible. Honest people will suffer because of these people.
As for whether I was rude or condescending. I try not to be, but when someone calls me stupid and treats me like I don't know my policy it is kinda upsetting. No all people that get angry are not crazy, but getting angry for such a stupid reason is crazy in my opinion.
@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Embarasssment might be part of it. After all when a person assumes he is right and is told no...especially when standing in a line in front of other people. Then there are some people who believe they are always right and refuse to listen to anyone.
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@resasour (378)
• United States
21 Feb 07
I think that they think if they throw a big enough fit, they will get their way. Chances are they thought they were being slick by buying it, then they copied it, then tried to return it, this way they got it for free. They probably could not rent it because they owed late fees or owed for movies they never returned.
Some people just think they are so slick, and they get mad because they can't get away with it, and their plan got foiled.. Besides, if the customer had a legit complaint about something wrong with the DVD then he would have been happy with just a replacement.. So there is your first and biggest clue that he was up to no good to begin with.
It's not that he hasn't grown up, its that he was trying to be sneaky.
@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
I know exactly. That's why I am not particularly sympathetic when they get mad cause they can't get their money back. If they were legit they won't mind an exchange. I had one lady agree to the exchange but asked me to forget to open her exchange so that she could go elsewhere and get her money back. Grr that made me mad! They think they're trying to be sneaky but they're being annoying and idiotic.
@joyderful1 (94)
• Singapore
21 Feb 07
You didn't mention if the dvd is working fine, or whether he gave a valid reason for the return. And even if it's your policy no returns on opened dvds, was that conveyed to the customer before payment?
Yes, there are the ones who are fitful wherever they go, who are seldom satisfied with 'nothing but the best'(who's best, or is it perception, dif standards/expectations, discerning taste, etc.?) Yet, even for some who have discerning taste, would they be guilty of unreasonableness in this case? If the customer is this way for 'small' purchases like this one, is he likely the same way with other things and behave this way even at home? Unreasonableness knows no bounds. Perhaps they are too spoilt, penny wise and pound foolish.
Sometimes, it could be they are just so stressed being at the 'receving end' in their jobs that they just want to feel they also have the right to make unreasonable demands.
Most of the time, when customers are told (repeatedly) of the written policy, and apologised to (firmly but not with anxiety), they will appreciate the treatment and accept the outcome. The ones who make a scene are likely fibbing. In such cases, it takes a quick thinking CSO to usher the customer into another room in the presence of managers.
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
22 Feb 07
The dvd was working fine, he just didn't want it. Also its not just our policy its a federal law and is generally considered to be common sense. It is also posted everywhere. Well you are lucky if you find that people are appreciative after telling them the policy. I have never found anyone to appreciate it when I tell them, they are just angry or at least mildly upset.
@callarse1 (4783)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Well I have seen this happen to people that are grown up (I mean mature), but they know how to push people. I am not sure of his intentions but I would try to simplify for him: "Take a deep breath. Now if you were to produce a movie and it is sold by a company people can copy the movie very easily with a computer. Therefore, since you opened the DVD we cannot take it back because it would violate federal copy right laws." I would leave it at that and tell him if he would like to talk about this matter any further then he needs to talk to the DVD company ;). And I think you did right having him talk to the manager and I would offer the customer a copy of your store return policy. I mean it is impossible to allow all returns due to copyright laws. I am not sure if the man was being immature, but I would say he was being demanding. He probably gets things done and a go getter. Have a nice day and a big + for you :)
Pablo
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
22 Feb 07
Yeah thats what I usually do, a lot of people pretend to not know that dvds can be copyed. Yeah right. I also tried to show him our copyright policy and he said he didn't care whether we had the policy or not, he wanted to get his money back. The kicker was he claimed he had done it before at another store. Again yeah right.
@Grandmaof2 (7579)
• Canada
21 Feb 07
I read this word for word thinking YES I can not only believe smartie knowing this is excately what happened but I can see my husband doing this, in fact he has embarrased me terribly which is the reason I shop alone. What causes these behavors, well I'm not an expert but in our case I'd have to give it to you as I see it. Hubby was born to a 45 year old mom who already had 7 children, she was too old to have had the child for starters, she was not a well person medically, and my husband got what he wanted when he wanted it and as far as I'm concerned there's lots of room for growing up BUT at the age he is I think it's too late. That's my opinion. You can only do your job according to policy. Not always easy, but keep up the good work !!!
@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Thanks I see your situation a lot too. One person gets mad and their spouse apologizes for them. :)
@retardedrugrat (4791)
• Canada
21 Feb 07
It seems some people think that by throwing their weight around and being threatening that they'll get their way. They try to be intimidating but don't realize that really they're making themselves look childish and silly.
I think they're mad that they didn't get their way, but they go way overboard with their anger.
I applaud you for having the courage to work in Customer Service, because it's not a job for the faint hearted. I know I couldn't do it for sure!
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Thanks I didn't think I could do it at first either but most of the time its not that bad. And I get funny stories out of it!
@DeSquallie (88)
• Philippines
21 Feb 07
I guess that the customer was a spoiled brat when he was a kid. But I guess the guy thought that he could refund the dvd set because nowadays, people buy dvds from a store, copy it to another dvd so that they can have a copy, then return and try to refund the dvd because of some technical problems and might want either cash back or a replacement of another dvd, and then the cycle keeps going until he's filled with pirated dvds in his house. But I'm not sure about your customer's intentions nor would I want to meet this guy.
There's a saying that keeps stuck in their heads, "The customer is always right." So if something bad happens, they immediately sue the company for some reason and earn more money that way. At least there's some laws that prevent such things to happen twice.
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Yeah for that very reason is why we have the copyright law because so many people do that. My opinion is that if you're going to pirate dvds just download it off the Internet or rent the dvd and copy it. Its cheaper and easier.
@Zelmarq (12607)
• Cebu City, Philippines
21 Feb 07
Yikes, same here, I'm a customer service officer phone-in and people are just nuts and it drives me crazy sometimes there are just demanding subscribers. They shout at the top of their voice and yell and nag and say not so good words that sometimes I lose my temper and tend snap at them also. We are just humans and sometimes we get hurt and feel bad.
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Yeah but at least you can always hang up or just stop listening to them. :) I don't have that luxury, and sometimes the customers will refuse to leave. That's the worst.
@christieswebb (238)
• United States
21 Feb 07
I worked for 2 years as a customer service person and I know EXACTLY how you feel.
If they thought for a minute about what they are asking for then they would realize how dumb they sound.
You can't return an opened movie or cd because of people who copy them and then return them.
I had one lady yell at me and then throw things on floor trying to get her way. Do they think that by acting that way I would want to go out of my way, in any way, to help them with their problem? I don't think so.
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
22 Feb 07
I know when they act that way I feel like making it more difficult for them! :)
@Jshean20 (14348)
• Canada
22 Feb 07
A lot of adults throw fits because often growing up, they were given anything they wanted and they got their own way most of the time. I will admit that as a kid, I was extremely spoiled and even today, I find myself holding in fits (I just think stuff in my head instead of letting it out and looking silly).
As for this guy who tried to return the DVD set, I think we both know that he watched it and decided that he'd be able to get cash back and move onto the next item (that he'd probably attempt to return later too). I'm not sure if this is more about him getting his own way, or about him being a thief.
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@ajinomoto23 (1057)
• Philippines
21 Feb 07
That is a sign of immaturity. There is a tendency to become violent.
@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
I've actually had anybody get violent, but there's been times that they've been close to it. It's a scary thought.
@cheetah311 (343)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Some people, I think, feel if they make a big enough scene and are difficult they will get their way and this usually works. I've known a few people who are like that and they tend to always get what they want.
Other people, I believe, have never learned how to deal with their anger or aggravation properly and react like this. I use to work for a man who was in his 60s and would throw temper tantrums (literally) if he didn't get his way or if the computer didn't work the way he thought it should.
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
See I've often thought that they just can't deal with their anger. Maybe there should be mandatory anger management classes in high school. :)
@teison2 (5921)
• Norway
21 Feb 07
I think more and more people think they are the center of the world, and that everything should go their way. if they want something they are somehow entitled to get their way. i believe some of them also genuinly think acting like this will make you give in. And sometimes it's like that: the one who makes the most noise gets his way.
I think working in cutomer service must be a very difficult job. I know I'm not cut out to do it. Do you often loose your temper?
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Yeah a lot of people do seem to think that and most of teh time if they yell at my manager they will give in. Especially if they pull the "Walmart is supposed to help everyone" card. I'm actually pretty good at not loosing my temper, if I feel like I'm close to it I usually call a manager and ignore the customer when they get there. :) One has made me cry once though.
@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
23 Feb 07
My roomie works in a job like that. She comes home daily with a story of some MORON who just threw a FIT because he couldn't get his way. She takes great pleasure in making sure they don't get it too. When a customer calls and is humble & admits to a problem being their fault she's much more likely to fix it for them, take off charges or whatever. She always does what she's hired to do, but if a spoiled brat calls, she loves to tell them NO.
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@spr1967 (208)
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21 Feb 07
I guess they see it as their right, not to throw a fit but to get an excahnge or a refund.
I think most customer service in the UK is absolutely rubbish, especially the call centres in the UK and not the ones in Pakistan. The ones in Pakistan just keep you on hold for 1 hr at a time at national rate
I find US customer service far more accomodating
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@smartie1685 (450)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Yeah a lot of customer service in America is bad too. Especially the call centers since they are all outsourced and you hardly ever get someone who is American.