stepchildren

@ZenDove (698)
United States
February 26, 2007 7:36pm CST
What do you do when you just don't like your stepchildren? I'm talking any age but mine are 8 and 10. They're not bad kids and I have a love for them but I do not like hanging out with them. I even have compassion for them as children of an ugly divorce. But, in my opinion, they are spoiled, rude, disruptive, undisciplined with the bare minimums of impulse control. My husband only has them every other weekend and, of course, he will not discipline them because he doesn't want anything but fun times when they are with us. He asked his daughter (she's 8) why they don't listen to him and she said "We do listen. We just don't care." The catch-22 is that they need more guidance and parental involvement but I cannot offer it because I don't want to see them more than I do. This bothers me because I love children and I am usually very good with them. Any like experiences or suggestions?
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29 responses
• United States
27 Feb 07
Have you ever considered duct tape and vodka? LOL All kidding aside I cannot imagine how hard it is to deal woth rude children that are not even yours. I might suggest finding the things they like to do, even if its video games and do it with them. Show them you can be fun and get down to their level and really put some effort into it.Do they like music? Take them to a concert of one of their favorite bands. While I think it does boil down to your husband putting his foot down and setting some srtict rules, it might not hurt to try to reach them on their level. Maybe if they learn to like you, then the respect will come. Above all else let them know you are there for them if they need you and hopefully they will grow out of it soon. At that age it is probably a game to see who can upset you first...try not to give in and show them how much their behavior affects you. Good Luck!
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@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
lol! Oh, the things I have considered! The one thing I won't do is play those awful video games. I actually tried to ban them from my home, but then my husband bought Grand Theft Auto versions 1-4! Have you ever heard the language in some of these games? And the violence is shameful for children of this age. But if their parents allow it, what can I do? Sadly, they really do like me - maybe more in the beginning than now. My husband feels so guilty about not living with them, it's hard for him to set consistent parameters. He always gives in or looks the other way. I don't want to be the bad guy but something's gotta give. When they spend time with us, it's like I have all the responsibility for keeping them in line but none of the authority to pull it off. Thanks for responding. (Just in case, I will keep duct tape on hand!)
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@badpenny (741)
• Lancaster, Texas
27 Feb 07
Video games can be a good thing if they are age appropriate. I would accidentally scratch those GTAS ones though, they should be banned.
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@lvhughes (545)
• United States
27 Feb 07
it sounds to me that your problem is not really the kids but the fact they are you husbands from a previous marriage. the fact that you stated that you dont want to see them more than you do just about says it all. you could let them know that just because their father doesnt care how they act you. they proble act up because they are allowed to and no one seems to care. the reason a good many fathers stop having anything to do with their kids is because of new wives and girlfriends. You really need to try and make a go of it with them. you may find that you can like them and get along with them. you dont have to learn to love them all in one day. take your time. try doing stuff with just them. show them you arent a bad person and ou may find out they are not bad kids. i am not tring to be rude are acuse you are anything. i just hate the see families fall apart because they refuse to except each other. remember you have to put up with them for the rest of your life. you never have to love them or even like them but to keep trouble out of your life and marriage you must get along with them. Just remember they were part of the package when you married.
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@lvhughes (545)
• United States
27 Feb 07
and i left out i wish you luck in solving you problem. God bless you and your family and may He be with you as you try to work thing out.
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@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Thanks, Iv. I surely don't mind constructive criticism. Obviously, I don't have all the answers here. The only problem I have with the fact that the children are from his previous marriage is that his wife and I do not share the same ideas and principles. This is reflected in how she raises her children. I am older than her and perhaps this plays some role in my standards for respectful, obedient children. I'm not talking martial law or corporal punishment here, but I have a hard time accepting a 10 year old who uses foul language. As I said before, I do love them. They are just children, subject to the decisions of adults. I just don't like to be around them. Thank you for your advice and kind wishes.
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@badpenny (741)
• Lancaster, Texas
27 Feb 07
My experience as a stepparent was a little different. My husband and I raised his oldest son, and their mother had the youngest. We didn't get to see the youngest much because they live in Tennesee, and we live in Texas. I have never gotten along with the oldest, nor he with me, when he was groing up. My relationship with the youngest became very strong when he would come to Texas for the summer. We got along famously, and we still do. Both boys are grown, now, and our relationships have grown too. My oldest stepson says he was so rude and obnoxious to me because he thought I was taking his dad away, but now he realizes I was just giving myself. So, I do understand how you feel, but I don't agree with your sentiment. These children are acting out because they are starved for attention, discipline, and guidance. Obviously their parents aren't meeting these needs. You have two choices, and they both suck. You can either assert yourself into the situation and try to give these children what they need when they are with you, or you can let sleeping dogs lie, and watch them grow up into possible criminals with the same "I don't care" attitude they have now and more knowledge about how to get into trouble. Another thing you have to consider is that these children are at an age when they are naturally rude and disruptive. Try planning stuctured family activities to channel their rambunctiousness into something positive at least one weekend a month. You may find that the bond between you growa, and it could possibly be the one thing these children need to become the shining stars every child has the right to be.
@ZenDove (698)
• United States
28 Feb 07
Great and insightful answer. I'm going to print out several copies as reminders for myself and for my husband. Thanks ever so much.
• United States
27 Feb 07
Wow! that is a bold and extremely honest claim. It is extremely difficult to really like disrespectful children even if you love them. Although your husband only wants happy times I think the times are going to get worse as they get older, especially if his 8 yr old answers him with such a sarcastic remark. It is important for you two to set rules and boundaries for them to follow when they are with you all and if you two have or plan to have children, they will pick up those disrespectful habits and will be more recentful that their step siblings get away with that bad behavior. It doesn't have to make the times "bad times" they are just constructive times.
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@mfpsassy (2827)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Well Zendove since we are being up front here tell your hubby to man up. He needs to tell his ex-in-law and mother to back down. If he doesn't have a parenting plan tell him to get one that way no one can decide if he will see his kids or not. Unless the kids are in extreme madical direst mother and or grandmothers will be held in contempt of court for not honoring the parenting plan. If you take away thier toys, games, or what ever tell the children and thier mother the stuff is not allowed at your home until you feel they have earned the privalege back. Remind him that how he let's them treat him and you is how they will treat everyone.
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@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
LOl, Andrea. I actually felt liberated when I just typed it flat out like that! I try to warn my husband about their pending adolesence - what a hell he's going to be facing. But he feels his hands are tied because they are being raised by his mother, their mother and her mother - and they all overrule his influence. These kids are great strategists at starting arguments amongst the adults. If we ground them, it means nothing - they just refuse to come visit. If we take away a toy or priviledge - it means nothing to them. They just get another from their Mom or grandma. The real problem is with the adults but the symptoms come out through the children.
@ZenDove (698)
• United States
9 Mar 07
Bravo! That's advice strong enough for Nanny McPhee! Thanks, Andrea. I'm going to let my husband read this response in order to get a really strong conversation started for us. Thanks again.
@bicklelady (1404)
• United States
13 Mar 07
Well number 1 your husband is harming his children when he does not discipline them. What is he going to do when they get into some major trouble? Number 2, it is not the kids fault, for the way they act. Hey if you are going to get by with it, why not do it. They may be doing the things that they are doing because they are wanting some discipline. They probably dont relize this but once your husband puts his foot down, They will act different. A child will act out good or bad when they are needing something like attention, love or discipline. Number 3. I really feel for you. I am sorry you feel the way you do for the children but didnt you know he had the children before you married them? If you love your husband you should love his children. My oldest son is from my first marriage. I divorced my first husband because he was running around on me and got the other woman pregnant. I was so hurt. But, after the beautiful little girl was born which is 4 months younger then my son, would come to my home and spend night with her brother. she is no relation to me or my second husband. She is my sons half sister. For that reason I love her with all my heart. We have fun together. She is a hand full. My x was kill when she was 12 and her mom just dont care about anything but herself. All of this is not my sons sisters fault. She did not ask to be born. That was Gods decision. It was not her fault that her father was a cheater. All I know is that my son and his sister have the same blood running through there veins and I love her for that. I would do anything for her. I do discipline her just like I would my own boys. She knows I treat her just like she is mine. She respects me for that. When I discipline her, she hates me at that moment. After it is over, we talk about it and she will tell me she is sorry and we then pretend it never happened and go on with our life. I can do more with her then her own mom. I wish you the best of luck with the blessing that you may be over looking.
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@ZenDove (698)
• United States
14 Mar 07
I do love them, I just don't like spending time with them because of their behavior. In the beginning of our relationship, they confided in me and depended on me. Their mother was hysterical, she did not want me to be close to her children. She put the kids in the middle and my husband never put his foot down (guilt) and I didn't have the authority. I have watched their behavior and respect for me deteriorate over the past 2 years. Now, there is no sign of the relationship that we shared in the beginning. They were told that I was the reason Daddy left home and that they didn't have to listen to me and now they act accordingly. I empathize with them because they feel they have to disrespect me in order to remain loyal to their mother. Empathy doesn't mean I have to like the treatment they shove down my throat. I know that they are innocent pawns in the ongoing battle between their parents, I also know how disruptive they are in my home. I admire your relationship with your son's sister but you summed up the difference yourself when you said "She respects me for that." I don't have that and that makes all the difference in the world.
• United States
27 Feb 07
I agree with you that they need more guidance and parental involvement. And even if you were more willing to get involved, it could be difficult as that could very well make everyone else unhappy. I can understand that your husband wants them to enjoy their visits, but allowing them to talk to him like that is not good for them and teaches them disrespect. I can see where it would make them hard to like. It sounds like some counseling might be in order. Would your husband be willing to suggest counseling for the kids to his ex? It would be good to have parental involvement in that as well. If they won't do that, you could even get some counseling yourself and ask the counselor for some suggestions. It sounds like you've talked to your husband about this, but maybe you need to talk to him again and see if you can reach some sort of compromise and agree on some house rules. You have a right to be treated respectfully in your own home. Also, if you're not doing this already, maybe you can do something else at least part of the time and give them some alone time with their dad, which would give you a little break. Good luck--this is a difficult situation and I find myself wishing I had something more concrete to offer.
@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Thanks, sappho! And you are right, my attempts at discipline or constructive criticism are not well received. The one time I tried to make the little girl stand in the corner, her mother called cussing and screaming - you would have thought I had struck the child! So, I really just try to minimize my interaction with them. Which is kinda sad because I used to spend a lot of time with them. I've been saying for 2 years that they all need counseling - including their Mom - because so many mean and ugly things were said and done during their seperation and divorce. I've never considered getting "step-mom" counseling but what a great idea. I wonder if anyone specializes in that?
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• United States
27 Feb 07
You might want to start with some who specializes in family issues, as long as they are willing to do individual counseling, since it doesn't sound like the rest of the family will go along with it. If you check in the yellow pages under "psychologists" or "counselors", often specialties will be listed. Or you can call your state psychological association (again that toll-free number will probably be listed in the yellow pages under "psychologist referrals" or something like that) and get some referrals. Also many places take insurance--if you have health insurance check your plan and see if it's covered. Some places also offer a sliding fee scale. Again, good luck--it's a difficult situation to be in and I think having someone objective with whom to talk about it could be helpful.
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@SageMother (2277)
• United States
27 Feb 07
There is no reason to extend affection to those who don't deserve it. Have you talked with your husband aboutyour expectations for children while in the home you share with him? It might be good to sit down and really work on th eproblem because it is VERY important that the children behave well while in your presence. It might be good to figure out how to create more structure for them when they visit. Planned outings, arts and crafts, gardening...anything that is simple, educational, and consumes enough of their time that they have few opportunities for idle trouble making. If you cannot develope more discipline then keeping them as busy as possible would be a good option. Other options would be your either leaving when the children visit, which is probably impractical, or your finding things that keep you busy but away from them when they visit. I can't think of other ideas but maybe those willhelp you out. Good Luck!
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@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Thanks and I have tried the "keep them busy" appoach. It works with most children who act out because they are bored. But these two are awful in public! I won't do it anymore. I've tried board games, crafts - these kids are video game junkies so it's hard to get and keep their interest in anything that doesn't have a controller connected to it! Hey, it helps to just cry on MyLot's shoulder!
@20031969 (932)
• India
28 Feb 07
I do not have personal experience bringing up stepchildren but i have deep sympathy for them towards them being human being. i want to love ...... only love. never i have bad feelings towards them nor i do not want to hurt them.
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@minerc (1373)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Well I really think that maybe you need to re evaluate who the selfish one is, I mean the kid's are going to be kid's and the way that they learn is by guidence from there parents if you are not willing to be a guide to them or your husband is not willing to be a guide to them then maybe it is better that they only come over every other weekend. I have 2 step daughters, we fought for 2 years for custody at that time we were only getting them every other weekend. I treated them as if they were my own the rules in our house applied to everyone. It has been 5 years almost 6 now. We have joint custody we get them every weekend and all summer. They are very different at my home than they are at there mom's. They are more respectful, they don't talk back when they break the rules they are punished. I do alot of things with them, my husband and I are raising them as if they were mine and his togather. Maybe if you took a different look on things it would help you. You have to show structure before they will follow it. Good Luck
@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Maybe I didn't give enough examples but their behavior goes beyond "kids will be kids". No matter what my sentiment may be, the truth is I am not their parent. Yes, I committed myself to them as well as to their father but the decisions and guidelines are not mine to set. For the record, the idea of turning them over to their mother's sole influence is a frightening one. They are following HER standards. She argues back and forth with them, she indulges tantrums and the closest she gets to discipline is yelling and cussing. The four-six days a month during the school year that we spend with them is not enough to balance things out for the kids and I refuse to spend more time with them for the sole purpose of entertaining and indulging them. I raised children of my own, I worked professionally with troubled children - in other words, I know very well how to set a structure for children. In this case, I need to set a structure for their parents and I'm just not going to be everybody's mother! I'm happy for you and your family. It sounds like you've created a solid, supportive home for your step-children. But the idea of spending the entire summer with these two is enough to make ME throw a tantrum! Thanks for a great response.
• Canada
27 Feb 07
Maybe you should trying explaining to your husband how him giving in to them all the time is not doing them any favours and that this is hard for you to be able to see this . It is making it harder for you to establish a relationship with the children as their behaviour is not what it should be . Best of luck !!
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• China
16 Mar 07
Sedulously explained that.possibly returns to brings the complexplane the influence.actually some matters do not need to make theunnecessary explanating.if your husband can understand thought wellthe speech.is very easy to solve!
@smkwan2007 (1036)
• Hong Kong
27 Feb 07
First of all, it is meaningless to force anyone to do things they just don't like to do. So if you don't want to see the stepchildren to an extreme degree, there is hardly a way to help you to be their nice mother. But I strongly suggest you try to find out the lovely parts of them. When both you and your stepchildren try to spend times together, bonds may be formed eventually. Maybe someday they love you and you are happy to be with them.
@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Thank you. That is so kind of you, they are funny, bright kids once they settle down. It doesn't have to be perfect all at once. I'll try to remember your encouraging words when they are jumping on my sofa. :-)
@mcaf1970 (140)
• Philippines
27 Feb 07
my second hubby has 3 children from previous marriages. fortunate for me, i'm in speaking terms w/ his eldest, she is turning 28 yrs old. as the days passed by, we became quite close. the other 2 offsprings, we are not in speaking terms. she & he don't like me. they are very judgemental. i don't mind. as long as their father comes home to me, to our own house. i'm contented. i don't pick a fight on them. try to be a good, lovable, approachable, thoughtful & understanding step mom to your step children. it is easier to talk w/ them since they are 8 & 10 only. ask permission from your hubby if you can let the children understand what they do. it's not good to see his children being rude, spoiled & undisciplined. these do not only reflect on their mom side but as well as on your side & your hubby. people would think all of you (3) don't know how to bring up the children w/ good values, good manners & right conduct instilled in their minds. the kids won't be the shameful ones in this situation but the 3 of you. always make the initiative to talk, play with them. let them feel that you also love them as much as their dad. you'll see, when they reach their adolescence stage, they will be heeding for your advice or for your guidance. don't be impatient.
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@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Great advice, thanks,mcaf!
@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
if you are not going to give your husband a helping hand in disciplining them then you have no right to judge them. Perhaps it is you that makes them want to lash out. Kids are not stupid and know when they are unwanted. when you take on a relatioship when there are already existing children then you have to accept the whole package
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@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I didn't mean to give the impression that I have never tried with them. In the beginning, I spent a lot of time with just the kids - my husband works long hours. They confided in me but any response or advice I gave them caused serious protest from their mother and grandmother. It was their mother's choice that they spend less one-on-one time with me. For the record, they behave worse with their mother and grandmother than they ever have with me and their father. Thanks for responding.
@RobbPell (123)
• United States
27 Feb 07
well it seems you are in a wierd situation. I belive that a step parent should gain the respect of the step child before atempting to correct or punish them. however in your case that seems to be a slim to no chance. While I know you wont always have unconditional love for a child that isnt even yours you may be able to find somethings you have in commoun to have small talk and do things every so often. However if your husband doesnt discipline them and wants fun fun fun your best bet would be to try to have fun with them when possable. If you try to discipline them or do something about it they will probably think of you as the evil step mom so i reciment talking to your husband about it and if he refuses to do anything just try to have fun having stepchilderen that think you are evil can be a bit of a hassle i know this becase i had a step dad for a few years that thought the belt was the right answer for anything we did wrong and that made us dislike him so we were horrible and we kind of made him crazy.
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@ZenDove (698)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I am not one to yell at kids, or hit them. I figure if you respect me, I'll respect you. I had a few stepdads myself so I've never wanted to be the evil stepmom. I don't want to hassle them during the little time they have with their dad but he's their parent, not their playmate. You're right, though, just like everyone so far has suggested, the answer lies with more effective communication between me and my husband. Thanks, Rob.
@nancygibson (3736)
• France
27 Feb 07
This is such a difficult situation and I sypmathise completely, my two stepsons have had a very difficult time in their teenage years and though their fatheris a good man who is excellent with kids, in hidsight I can see that he wasnt nearly firm enough with them and that they really needed parental discipline. From my perspective I always felt as if I had no right to interfere, but again, looking back, it wouldnt have hurt for me to be stricter about teh houserules as well.
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• Nigeria
27 Feb 07
Unfortunately, there are a lot of parents that try to turn their children against the step-parent and do everything in their power to thwart every effort to form a good relationship. I'm still in good graces with my step-daughter, but her mother is doing everything she can to turn her against me and I'm afraid it will happen. My husband, thankfully, is doing what he can to make sure that won't happen...but a lot of men are so afraid of confrontation or are so busy over-compensating, that they allow it to happen whether or not they realize it.
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@shila07 (514)
• Bhutan
27 Feb 07
Its good to know that you love the step children. Its really good. Children are next to GOd, they will be so inocent at this stage. So if you treat them good , they will feel good and treat you as their mother. You should not feel any bad when they go with you, travel with you instead you should be proud that you are already a mother of two. I love children so much.
@junior07 (972)
• India
27 Feb 07
i think u should give them love to get it in return.
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@glenry86 (211)
• Australia
27 Feb 07
sounds like your husban needs to discipline them before its far too late, they is no reason that the children can not have fun without disipline and respect, respect and trust is very important when bringing up children, from what you have said they do sound very rude and have little respect, i think you need to talk to your husband very shortly and try to discuss how you feel about the situation, you also need to show them discipline to the kids while they are over, however if you do this and your husband doesnt they may think of you as a'b#tch' but this may actually do them good in the future. discipline is must!
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@stahir45 (103)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 07
There is enough in your note to suggest that you are a good mother having compassionate feelings and love for childen. That is why you have a natural concern for them as a mother as well. Such feelings also seem to at times stimulate you to do something good for them. I am sure such feelings will enlighten your hear further and you will mould them to become good citizens. You also seem to love your husband and having done something for his children will enhance your love and respect in the eyes of your husband.