Trouble speaking...
By howard96h
@howard96h (11640)
New York, New York
March 8, 2007 4:09am CST
My friends have a 3 year old daughter and a one year old son. The girl mumbles words that no one can understand. What ever they tell her to do she understands every thing you say but she can't say any words correctly. The parents have no other problems with her, she is potty trained already, her mother said that it was so easy she almost potty trained herself. Is this normal being three years old and not talking? Shouldn't a child at this age be able to speak many words very clearly? Her little brother tries to talk and no one can make out what he's saying but this is expected because he's only a year old. Sometimes I think she is jealous of him because before he came along she had gotten all the attention and now everything is him, she seems to always look angry. Please, any advice and comments are appreciated.
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@mom_of_2 (398)
• Canada
9 Mar 07
Hey howard96h,
As a parent I have been in this situation twice. My son, and now my daughter, were diagnosed with sever speech delays. I first noticed my sons delay at 18 months. I asked my family their oppinion and everyone seemed to say the same..he's a boy and boys take longer to talk and potty train etc. So I let it go then when he was 2 I asked the health nurses and they gave me the same answer and reminded me not to compare my child with any other kids. Being a first time mom I just took everyones word. By the time my son was 3, it was obvious to tell there was a problem. He had lots to say but very few words were intellegable. he would talk using only vowels (ee...oh...Ah) and yet he was very bright at 3 years old. Fully potty trained, knew colors, shapes just couldn't talk !! Finally I found a doctor that was willing to help...he ordered a hearing test ( a hearing problem will affect speech) and an MRI (just to rule out anything serious with the brain). Then I was put in touch with an excellent speech therapist...my son is almost 6 and I'm proud to say his teacher tells me he is one of the most well spoken kids in her class. My advice to your friend is ..
1. Follow your gut...you know your kid best and DO NOT let anyone tell you she "will grow out of it"
2. have a hearing test done...they're not painful at all
3. ask your doctor or health nurse to put you in touch with a speech and language pathologist (SLP) for an evaluation.
4. Model good speech for her. for example if she points to the juice and grunts...just smile and say "juice". Ask her questions. If you know she wants a drink don't just get it for her..ask her..Would you like milk or juice? If she answers you but says it wrong, don't "correct" her speech, simply repeat it the correct way.
I found a couple websites that were helpful for me....search "childhood apraxia of speech". A speech delay causes frustration for both the child and families/caregivers so the sooner you can the little girl help the better for everyone.
Good luck abd best wishes for your friends :)
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
Thank you so much, this information is great. I am so glad everything worked out for your son. Again, thanks.
@domesticengineer (576)
• Philippines
9 Mar 07
We're on the same situation. I have a 5 year old girl and an almost 2 year old boy. All the attention now is on our son because he's so cute and he's just starting to do things on his own. He barely could make a full sentence and everybody enjoys talking to him. What I usually do when everybody's attention is on him I would turn to my little girl and praise her also or take note of something good she is doing or how cute she is also. This way, she's not really going to be very jealous because equal attention is given to both of them.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
This is important that they both get equal attention. This is so hard because I am closer to Sara's father and he works 2 jobs and by the time he gets home she's already sleeping and it's hard to get through to the mother. Oh well all I can do is keep trying. Thanks for your comments.
@mom2chriskel (1060)
• United States
8 Mar 07
I'm very passionate about this subject because my son couldn't talk and still has trouble talking at the age of 6. He's kicking butt academically but has trouble communicating. He was born 10 weeks early and we didn't notice a problem until about 3. By the time I found help he was 4. So many people don't know you can help through the school districts this young. And it is FREE! Every school district has an IEP/IUP program. My son went to preschool every M-W-F and worked with a speech therapist. One day a week, plus the speech therapist attended his classes with the preschool teacher and helped him in class too. Without this program, I can't tell you how far behind he could be.
They will evaluate the little girl over a few meetings. And determine if she needs help. I know the only way I found out about the IEP program was someone at the local head start told me about it. The speech therapist in our school district goes to head start for speech for the little ones there. We make too much money for head start so we were sent to a different school but it was still free--but it was more structured for students who have learning disabilities of some kind.
I'd suggest this option to the parents--as nicely as you can. It hurts when people comment on your child's disability...plus the parents have to be ready to hear she is behind in speech.
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@mom2chriskel (1060)
• United States
8 Mar 07
Mothers are always more sensitive. I was big time. I just assumed since I could understand my child that everyone else could too and sadly that is not the case. I spent all day everyday with my child so I did understand him better.
I was in denial for a little while and finally I had to do what was best. I think I had every excuse in the book from I couldn't afford to look for help, or I could understand him, or he was born so early and he is behind because of that. Finally, I had to stop making excuses and get my child help because he mattered more. I know getting over that first step is hard. But talking to the dad may be the way to go.
Good luck
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
8 Mar 07
Thank you so much, I will try talking to them again. The child's name is Sara and her mother keeps saying I was slow to speak when I was a little girl so this is why Sara is like this, she taking after me. Personally I don't agree with this comment because everyone is different. I will try to talk to Sara's dad too. The dad questions why the other 3 year old's talk well and not his daughter but the mother is the one who gets defensive. I understand when you say that it hurts if you comment on a child's disability. Thanks for your help.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
8 Mar 07
I am wondering does the little girl spend time with other young people her age? If not, then she maybe speaking baby language like her brother. First, I would suggest her parents take her to a doctor and make sure she doesn't have any type of hearing loss or medical reasons to mumble words. One of my neighbors children now has a hearing aid, as she could hear people when they were looking at her and standing near her, but at a distance she couldn't hear. She use to get really angry because she thought people were talking about her and saying bad things, The distance was close enough that I could hear what people were saying, but she couldn't hear.
She maybe angry and doing it for attention and if this is the case, then her parents need to do something now to help her. Does she get special time when she gets to pick the activity?
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
8 Mar 07
I do notice what ever her little brother does she must copy. After she learned to walk, when she would see her little brother in his walker she would fight to get into his walker and copy what he is doing. She loves to watch DORA THE EXPLORER and when her mother tries to get her to repeat words that she hears Dora saying, she gets mad and refuses to do it. I can see she does understand everything you tell her to do, but it appears that she loves to copy the one year old. She has an uncle that comes over every Thursday to visit and he brings a treat every week for the two children, when her mother tell her, today is Thursday and your uncle is coming over, since she has no concept of time yet, she will run to the window and wait there until she sees him arriving to the house and she won't budge from that window. Thanks for your comments.
@tad1fan (3367)
• Canada
8 Mar 07
It sounds to me like you already know the problem.....one question though....when she mumbles and grumbles,do the parents talk to her until they figure out what she wants?I had a friend with a little one like this and she didn't talk because she didn't have to,her parents did it for her....
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@tad1fan (3367)
• Canada
9 Mar 07
Never keep your mouth shut when it comes to a child in tumoil.From what you have said here,the poor little girl doesn't feel that she has to speak because 'mommy and daddy' will do it for her.....well,mommy and daddy won't be with her on her first day of school,her first dance,her first date....they need to be told to 'shut up' and let their little girl SPEAK!Make her speak,she can say it,she just doesn't have to so she won't!
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
8 Mar 07
I think you have made an excellent point here, no they do not push her to pronounce it correctly. They figure out what she wants and they leave it at that. I think your right though when you say - she doesn't talk because she doesn't have to. Personally I think and have told the parents that I would be a little firm with her and when it comes to toys and treats, not to give it to her unless she says the word correctly. They almost ripped my head off. She's only 3, she's just lazy, she'll talk when she wants to. So now I am like the little girl, I keep my mouth SHUT!!!
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@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
Your right and I am going to talk to them again. Sadly the mother thinks Sara is just a late bloomer like she was, a chip off the old block.
@sjohnson628 (3197)
• United States
8 Mar 07
Maybe she has a hearing impairment! I know one of my nieces did and my sis took her to the Dr. and they corrected it by putting tubes in her ears. I hope this is of some help!
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@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
8 Mar 07
I think my friends should take her to be checked, they think she's normal and just a late bloomer. I think she should have been talking already, I see other kids her age talking pretty good. Thanks for your comments.
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@Melizzy (1381)
• United States
9 Mar 07
My little cousin has this problem exactly. He is now 5 and talking better, but still behind. They do need to take her to a speech therapist. She needs to be using a straw, blowing bubbles, anything to exercise her jaw muscles.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
Melizzy, I hope things improve with your little cousin. I also hope I can convince my friends to get her checked out before it is too late. Thank you for your comments.
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@arunpatal (627)
• Germany
9 Mar 07
Maybe she is too young and need some more time to talk. Everyone is not like same some kids start late.
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@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
Yes, this is what her mother says because she said she started late too. Thank you for your comments.
@Stephanie5 (2946)
• United States
9 Mar 07
That could be her 'rebelling' but maybe not. If a parent "speaks" for their child, the child will talk less. Like if she wants a drink and just points and they give it to her, well then she's probably not going to ask for it, instead she will just point....
BUT, I have a 5 year old boy who doesn't pronounce his words correctly. He tries but just can't get the L, S, or T's to come out right. He speaks like a baby would. He's taking a speech class for it now...hopefully it works. My 8 year old didn't talk very plain until he was about 5. Now, I have a 2 year old girl right now and some things she says plain as day, and other times she don't. She's catching on very quickly to my 5 year olds language and starting to sound TOO much like him! So, I'm going to have to keep an 'ear' on that, ha...
Anyways, my point is, all kids are different...I have 5 kids and all of them were different... :-) (Sorry bout the rambling)
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
No thank you, I appreciate all the info I can get for my friends. I do notice Sara copying her one year old brother. She has to do everything he does except she will not use pampers anymore since she's potty trained. They had to go out and they knew they would be no where near a toilet, so her mother tried to put a pamper on her in case she had to go and she refused it, would not let her put it on. This is the only thing she doesn't copy from her brother. Kids - huh!
@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
9 Mar 07
Hi, no it is not normal to not be able to speak properly at the age of 3 but then again some people do have problems with their speech, I know that my husband was around 5 years old before he really started speaking and maybe this is the little girls problem as well, but I definately would have it checked out if I was the little girls parents. The little girl maybe jealous of her litle brother but it is best to check it.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
I agree and she is jealous of her brother. Thanks for your comments.
@ailene713 (97)
• Philippines
9 Mar 07
i think one yr plus do speak already. although they mumble the words, but they can speak already. this child should be taken to the doctor for check-up. it will be best for him.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
I think she should be seen by a speech therapist too. I will keep trying to convince the parents. Thank you for your comments.
@blackbriar (9076)
• United States
10 Mar 07
My daughter was like that as well. When she started in headstart at 3 yrs of age, they diagnosised her with a speech disorder. After 4 yrs of speech therapy in school, she talks normal now long as she don't whine while she's talking.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
10 Mar 07
It appears that there are many children that have this problem as I can see with all the posts. Good to hear your daughter is fine now. Thanks for your comments they really help.
@desimanero (419)
• United States
9 Mar 07
my downstarirs nieghbors daughter is like that.Shes 4 and she can not talk.She understands what you say but you cant understand what she says.Her doctor said she has some kind if speech impairment,My son is also like that.Hes only 2 though.But i see kids his age all the time saying perfect sentences.He only says a couple words clearly.I dont know maybe she should get her checked out by a doctor.Im going to take my son if he doesnt improve by his next birthday.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
I hope things improve with your son and I hope my friends make the right decision. Thanks for your reply.
@m_audrey6788 (58472)
• Germany
9 Mar 07
I have a nephew who's like that and my sister send him to a speech learning school and now he can talk little by little...I don't think it's about jealousy but it's about giving her support and attention..try to balance your attention to both of them.. :)
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
9 Mar 07
I plan on talking to the father and I hope the parents will do this. Thank you.
@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
8 Mar 07
My cousin had the same problem with her little boy. And she took him to all kinds of doctors they said he was fine. He now is 7years old and is talking up a storm.LOL You cant shut him up. Some childred are just slower thats all. Tell your friend not to worry she will be just fine.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
8 Mar 07
I guess every child is different and will do it at their own pace. Thanks.
@lols189 (4742)
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8 Mar 07
hi howard, from what i know its yes children should be speakin clearly at the age of 3 years old. i couldnt really say if there was a problem with her speech. but as you said the little boy is her brother she might well be jealous of him and thats why she wont speak up and just mumble. other users will probably give you more accurate advice
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
8 Mar 07
Yes lols, Her being jealous of her brother is not hleping the issue. Thanks for your comments.
@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
8 Mar 07
The best person to determine if there is a problem is the peditrician. He can do a physical and then refer her to a speech therapist if appropriate. Tell your friend to have her checked and not to let it go on. It is important that the problem be solved before she enters pre-school.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
8 Mar 07
I have mentioned it to them because I am afraid that she will be so much behind the other children. Thanks for your comments naty.