Is it possible for friends to be lovers? without commitment?

Philippines
March 20, 2007 2:40pm CST
I have a friend, lizzie, she is 24 yo, have two children and is separated, as you see, not that lucky for love. She managed to gather herself and start a new life. So between work and her kids she quite gave up on finding " thelove". She went on from one relationship to another, none with success, and then one night after some playfull texting, steamy ones with one of her guy friend. they set up for a night together, but it is without string attached. They made out, had a great night, but when ordinary days come, they become ordinary friends too. However, when they both feel lonely, they know where to find each other. It bothers me a bit because I can feel Lizzie to be expecting a little more with that relationship. I am afraid that she gets hurt in the end. My question is, what is your opinion for that kind of set up? is it fair? is it worthwhile? Should she expect something out of it? from guy's point of view, what is the guy motive, reasons, are they feelings involve?
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@nowment (1757)
• United States
3 Apr 07
I do think that friends can be lovers, and can be lovers without commitment. For some this can ruin the friendship, for others it can make it stronger, but still not lead to a romantic relationship. It is important in this instance for both to be very honest with each other, not create false expectations. Unfortunately sometimes one of the two involved in this will want more, usually it is the woman but it can be the man who wants more than friendly lovers. If they both were honest about what they were doing when they did start to become lovers, and if they have talked honestly that this is just a freindship kind of thing when both need a little more than self gratification while they are unattached then neither should expect more. If they haven't talked this out, and been honest about what they are doing and what they are feeling then yes it is reasonable that one or both of the two would expect the relationship to become more than just friends, and sometimes lovers. I have been in that situation and enjoyed it, it was open honest, and we both knew where we stood with each other, when I became involved with someone, then the friendship was once again a friendship only. Same for him, when he became involved the friendship was friendship only. In fact his girlfriend knew we were friends, and that at one time we enjoyed being with each other as more than friends, and she and I got along fine, she is to my thinking the perfect girl for him. I found the man for me as well. I never lied to him about a friend who used to be a lover, and he is ok with it because it is a past issue. The key in all of this was that at all times all parties were open and honest with each other at all times on where we stood. Trust is vital, in friendships, and any other relationship. If they haven't discussed where this is going, then they need to, they need to establish exactly what this means to each of them, because they can't read each other's minds and so they may view the situation differently with out realizing that the other friend is looking at things differently. And yes sometimes at some point one of the two people even when they knew where they stood will fall for the other, but if they were honest to start with the hurt can be less. Because then there is no blame or accusation associated with the change in feelings.
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@msqtech (15073)
• United States
4 Apr 07
The problem is no commitment for me. I see it as no win situation.
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• Philippines
4 Apr 07
Wow nowment! This is really a jawdropping, and most heartfelt post I red. Thank you! I'm speechless! It will help her a lot! Keep up the good work and keep in touch! (^^,)
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@kajal28 (83)
4 Apr 07
yes it is possible for friends to be lovers wthout commitment...i have a best frnd n we r alwys there for each othr whnevr we feel bit low bt we have condition tht we shudnt fall in luv nor shud any1 knw abt us..we both r happy tht way n it will continue bt the day either of us finds a life partner we'll jst be frnds...n keep distance..
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• Philippines
4 Apr 07
Thank you for sharing your experience Kajal! I really appreciate it! (^^,)
• India
3 Apr 07
i find myself happy without committing the relationship with my girlfriend.normally boys are not serious with any relationship,they want themselves to be a free bird,but i am different with this concept.
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• Philippines
3 Apr 07
Good! she must be happy too with your relationship! More power to your relationship! And thank you for sharing! (^^,)
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@ydnac22 (802)
• Philippines
3 Apr 07
In her case It's obvious that shes afraid anymore of commitment.What shes doing is just a fling to satisfy her loneliness and yes it is called lust.No problem with what shes doing but she have to make it sure that she will not get hurt at the end.She should promise to herself that she will not fall in love to that person because if she do,then it will create another problem.She must remember that a single mistake cannot be corrected or cannot be solved by making another mistake.Shes still 24,if she will just wish to bring her life to back to normal,she will get it.She must remember that life is like a wheel,sometimes your up and sometimes your down.Now she's down and unhappy but she must never forget that there's still sunshine waiting for her if and only if she will do good things in her life.Sad thing on your friend is shes not thinking well.Seems that her mind is closed anymore to those good things that might happened. Anyway lets just pray for her that she will realised everything shes doing nd will see the light that will light her path.
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• Philippines
4 Apr 07
You have a good point there Ydnac. Thank you for sharing! And don't worry she is coming to her senses, Thanks to all the advices! I think she will soon see the light especially that she is starting to heal. Keep in touch dear! (^^,)
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@Tomcat27 (112)
• Philippines
3 Apr 07
to be honest with you, your friend might soon hurt herself. it may not be as worthwhile as it seems right now. why? because feelings nor any commitment are not involved. it's true that people need someone to be with when they're lonely, but the way i see the guy is taking the opportunity at hand. it's like reporting for work at your own convenience. i don't know what the guy's motives are but i don't think that there are feelings involved 'cause if there is the guy wouldn't have treated her in an "ordinary" or casual way after that fiery incident. BTW, nice name... the greek goddess of love
• Philippines
3 Apr 07
Thanks Tomcat! your name is nice too.(^^,) and thank you for sharing a guy's point view is very much valued in this kind of situation. Don't worry she'll get over it soon, thanks to your help too. Happy posting! (^^,)
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@lornalhai (148)
• China
2 Apr 07
If she feels chuffed,it is enough, but she should be sane. As a good friend,you only to comfort her when she is sad and share the pleasure when she is happy.And also give her some advise.
• Philippines
3 Apr 07
Thanks Lorna! And don't worry she is coming to her senses. And I'm always here for her, that's what friends are for, to support and love especially during trials. Thanks for sharing! Have a nice day! (^^,)
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@aidonia (4209)
• Greece
27 Mar 07
Until the point that both of them enjoy being together without expecting nothing more the things are fine.I think for the boy is more easy not because he is guy but because from beginning know better what he did and why he did.For your friend thinks is little more complicated because she feel alone after sh separated from her husband.I don't think she really love him or feel something more just she feel bad to be alone so she need some who make this feeling go away.When you feel alone and you afraid from this it's so easy you did mistakes and you confuse feelings. Your friend just need little time to be alone and be friend with the loneliness without she went from one relationship to the other.After little time with herself when she find a new man to be with ,she gonna do it for the right reasons and not only for she has someone to be with.I wish her the best...
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• Philippines
28 Mar 07
I do understand that I call it the human aspect of longing for somebody to love and care for, or to feel love and needed especially when you are deeply hurt. I went thru that stage too, but as you said I hope she'll get use to her loneliness first. That's the starting point for her healing process. Thank you for your comments. She doesn't have time for mylot but I made it a point that I'll help her by posting her story. Your advices will help her a lot. Thank you for sharing!! (^^,)
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@hoghoney (3747)
• United States
24 Mar 07
it is ok as long and she can keep her feeling in tact but sometimes something like this can also blow up in your face. she will someday find the right guy and have love but right now just watch her back so she dont fall again. your are a good friend for feeling this way and careing for her.
• Philippines
25 Mar 07
Yeah! That's true! It's like playing with fire. I really care about her, it is also because I think that women are suceptible to get hurt the most in this kind of set-up. You are a good friend too for replying to my discussion. Thank you! And I love your moves ha! Groovy! Shake3X! Cute!
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@lextoper (573)
• Philippines
21 Mar 07
That is lust not love. For me, it is fair. They both want it and enjoyed it. You said, she quite finding for love. So, we could say that, what she did is what she wanted to do or they wanted to do. She is not expecting for love or commitment in return because she already thinks that love does not exist after all. All you can do about this is to comfort her and be with her every time she needs you. Listen to her problems and troubles and offer some advises.
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• Philippines
21 Mar 07
Thanks a lot gals and guys for your responses. I've said your comments to Lizzie and she really appreaciates them a lot. She also said that she still believes in love but she is afraid of the pain, to get hurt again. It seems that sometimes she is all right with situation, but sometimes she can help herself to wonder what if, this and that. But no other moves has been made from her male "friend". So she is confused. I understand her, because my husband and I separated 3 yrs ago. For a young woman, only 24, it is not that easy to survive a separation, a fail mariage, children to take care, jobs. I know how raw her wounds are, but i just hope she wont loose herself, her identity in a relationship that i think has no future.
@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
1 Apr 07
Errr...this is rather difficult for me to assimilate aphroditei. I'm kind of old fashion with the relationship thingy. I know for a fact that a lot of couples nowadays are into this kind of set up. I'm afraid though your friend, LIzzie, is using her loneliness as an excuse to be involved in a no string attached relationship. If Lizzie understood that what she is getting into is just a casual sort of thing, then she should not expect to have more than she can have. She needs to have at least talk with this guy and be straight with everything.
• Philippines
2 Apr 07
Thank you Charms! and I agree with you. But don't worry she is starting to come to her senses. And I'm thankful to all of you.! Keep up the good work and I have rated everyone a + for responding and sharing their advices! Thank you thank you!(^^,)
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@kclaret59 (587)
• Philippines
28 Mar 07
yeah i thnk i have experienced it twice.. hehhee.. but i really did not consider the thought of him as my boyfriend. we are just extrememly close to each other that people think he's my bf.. though i relly liked him then.. but i do not show my feelings. i just treated him as a friend. and the second time was when we became soooo close with this guy. i really like him since i first saw him. and then my friends teased me and then we became close. we used to play billiards and he always gets beaten.. ehehe.. and i wasn't aware that i already fell for him.. until... he goes with another girl. and that was a stab on my heart.. hehehhe. now he is my husband..
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• Philippines
28 Mar 07
Wow! Your husband and you have an amazing lovestory ha! ;-) I'm happy for you. At least you have realized before it is too late that he was important to you. Thank you for sharing! And I'll keep you posted for my longhair photo! (^^,)!!
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@rabi9634 (419)
• United States
31 Mar 07
As a guy, I can bet you that this dude is thinking that a no-strings-attached thing with a hot friend would be an ideal situation. There's probably not too much thought of anything beyond that. It's also likely to get VERY ugly if either of them finds someone to be in a relationship with. The booty calls shouldn't continue on if that happens, and one party is likely to be hurt if/when that occurs.
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• Philippines
1 Apr 07
Thank you for sharing, it is very helpful to have a guy's point of view in this kind of situation. And you are right, someones gonna get hurt in the end. Thank you very much! (^^,)
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@batpig (99)
• China
6 May 07
i dont think at the moment,they are falling love with each other.maybe girl are easy to deep involved with such kind of relation,like you said,she expected more from that. but for that man,oh,please,he is looking for a comfort from the girl.if he really loves her,he will not just be on her side when he is lonely.should be always to be together.but now seems that he doesnt care about the girl when he gets sth to do.just when he is alone,then he think about the girl. dangerous relation,isnt it?
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• Philippines
6 May 07
Thanks Batpig. And very well said, it's a emotionally dangerous relationship. And I hope my friend will realize it soon before she gets badly hurt. (^^,)
@bystander (2292)
• Philippines
14 May 10
well, that's what many call as trysting, consenting adults. i wanted to say more, but i ran out of words... when done quite often, but for claimed that it is only for convenience, then the opposite may become of the two...
• Philippines
14 May 10
Yes, that's what happened, for convenience only. Their relationship didn't last. She fell deeply emotionally attached with that guy. But he only wanted the good time, with no commitment and especially didn't want an instant family. He couldn't take to be a dad to her children. That's so sad. I really felt for her, because I know how difficult it is to be a single mom. But, maybe the guy had a change of heart. He tried to get her back. But hmmm, she didn't took any chances. She didn't allowed it to happen again, even if he vowed by the sun, moon, stars and any constellations that he was serious. She said, she felt, and I felt too, and I told her, that it was not sincere. (^^,)
• Philippines
15 May 10
That's a good point. Being in an adventurous and non committed relationship almost defined on how ready a guy can be for a permanent relationship. So you mean that, once a player, always a player? Because one-night stand itself is a fear of commitment and an escape from the attached responsibilities. But yes, when you come to think of it, that's what one night stand are supposed to be. But, the problem is, women gets easily attached and always believe in fairy tales stories, that a frog can turn into a prince...thank you too for responding my friend. (^^,)
@sunup13 (420)
• Canada
5 Apr 07
I am in the same situation. It is hard being a single mom and trying to meet men, especially in my small town. The father of my baby is my "friend/lover", he was my first and so I am comfortable with him. We are not sure whether a relationship is worth it, but frequently get together as both friends and lovers. We still have feelings for each other and I imagine it will be hard to find someone else being in this situation but I just can't seem to stop either. My heart goes out to Lizzie. It is so difficult to sort feelings out and do what is right. Just be her friend, be there when she hurts.
• Philippines
6 Apr 07
Thank you Sunup. And I do understand your situation too. Well, it might not be easy but as long as you are happy. It is worth trying it especially that you have a child together. And thank you for sharing. I really appreciate it! (^^,)
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@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
21 May 10
You got me thinking now, who of my friends I can do it with? People have different priorities in their life. She may have decided that she will not go into any relationships which consume much efforts and times. Rather than facing another failure in relationship which cause her another heartbreak, she choose a safe and matter of fact relationship with her friend. I am sure both of them feel attracted to each other, but not as that strong as love. Both must have talked of the consequences and never to expect more that each of them wants to give. I don't see anything's wrong in this kind of relationship, as long as both of them talked truthfully. It may be the best solution before she finds her own soul mate, so to speak. This way neither one will be hurt.
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