No Blood for Oil!!
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
April 2, 2007 2:52pm CST
This rant/chant began back in 1990 when Hussein invaded Kuwait leading to the Gulf War.
I guess the fact there was no evidence to back it up then shouldn't stop anyone from mindlessly echoing it today, right?Let's look at the fact from 90/91 first, shall we?
~Kuwait made an agreement with the US led coalition which included a lot of things, but didn't include any oil right or proxy vote in OPEC.~After the coalition expelled all the Iraqi troops from Kuwait, but before control of the nation was returned to the exiled government, the Coalition held ALL of Kuwait's oil assets. All were returned.
~At the time of the signing of the ceasefire agreement, the coalition held all of Iraq's oil assets in the occupied territories. After the signing, all oil assets were returned. Oil assets were not demanded as part of the ceasefire.
Ok, now let's look at the war in Iraq today:~The US deposed Hussein's government. No oil assets were taken as "spoils of war".
~The Iraqi government runs the oil assets now... none are promised to any coalition nation.
Ok, will someone please explain to me how this war is "all about oil", so far oil hasn't even been a factor.
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@willfe (149)
• United States
2 Apr 07
So because the United States hasn't just made a mindless, instant grab for control and power in the region, it's not interested in its oil? Oh, heh, wait, we *have* made a mindless, instant grab for control there.
There were no WMDs -- our "official" reason for the attack a few years back -- none, nada, zilch. So, we're kinda just over there for giggles, then? We installed a government more friendly with us than the one that was there.
Gosh. That won't benefit us at all later on, will it? :)
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Apr 07
Thanks for replying, but you managed to do everything but answer the question. Thanks also for the entertaining sarcasm, it was appreciated. :~D
@taiguy (478)
• United States
3 Apr 07
I've been trying to figure this out for awhile. It could be possible that we just need a secure country to get the oil from, or it could also mean that we expect some subsidised oil for all the trouble "we" have been through.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Apr 07
I'm not saying it shouldn't be about oil at all, I think we should have included oil proxy votes in OPEC or a percentage of the total production from Kuwait and Iraq as part of each agreements... but they weren't.
The fact is "No Blood For Oil" is just one more of an endless stream of completely meaningless and unfounded lies from the left.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
2 Apr 07
You are, of course absolutely right! But it is way too popular to hate conservatives and Mr Bush.. The war has been run, as far as I'm concerned by the media.. before then it was going very well.. I lay any failures upon the ones who consider the only war "the war against Bush"! Even the ones who first repeat these catch phrases, after they have repeated them enough times they actually believe them! No wonder "the people" reading them everyday for days on end, believe them. Yet this is dangerous. As somehow half of "the people" now believe their enemy is their own government, well, the conservative part anyway, like there's this mad dash to have only one party.. And in order to villainize the other party, they are tearing apart their own country and contributing to the hate america and even the kill americans propaganda!
Yes, ParaTed2k, I worry about these things too, mostly for the sake of my grandkids (or even my kids)..
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Apr 07
True, Hate seems to be the new "Peace". I guess the "V" in the peace sign is now "venom".
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
3 Apr 07
It makes for a darn good sound byte for one thing.
It's catchy...it's something people can grab hold of and turn into their mantra because they really have no more idea as to what this war is about or why we are there other than what the lying press tells them.
There are people and organizations that just don't seem to want us to win, or even be there.
The American people were out for blood after 9-11, but now it has taken to long, and people are...gasp...dying!
No one said it was going to be like this!
Those who supported Bush and voted for the war suddenly find that they were "misinformed and misled" now that they are either trying to save their political hides or run for president.
Yep, public opinion has turned, and just as the rats will abandon a sinking ship, the rats have chosen to abandon Bush and their own decisions.
Bush has stood firm with the decisions he made and rightly so.
Now that he has got some advisors that seem to have a better handle on things, and a security sweep and cleanup is under way, things are actually looking up.
Do we hear anything about that?...No instead we hear all of the bad things that are happening and none of the good.
There is a reason for that, and that is because certain factions want us out of there, even if it is at the expense of our security.
The all about oil thing is a hoax, nothing more than a dirty lie that is being told by people who know better but don't care.
Bush didn't start this war to begin with.
Clinton did.
The policy that Clinton had while he was in office, and the things that he did are what caused 9-11 to happen.
It was Clinton's intent to depose Saddam, and that is what he was trying to do. He didn't quite get it done, so Bush was force to finish what Clinton started.
Yet people on MyLot hold Clinton up as a hero and blame Bush.
That makes as much sense, and has as much validity as the claim that it is only for the oil.
@destinyisntfree (50)
• United States
3 Apr 07
What makes it all about oil is that this is one of the countries controlling a majority of the resources for oil. The United States wanted access to this, so they made up some excuse to go in and get it. There never were any weapons of mass destruction. And Iraq was not involved in the 9/11 attacks, so why else, then, are we there?
The reason is simple. The US government knew that if they got rid of Hussein and brought in a more amenable government, then they would have a better shot. No, there have been no direct grabs at the oil rights, but there has definitely been ground work laid.
War is always about financial gain. War is always about what we can take from the other guy. There is never a selfless reason in any war. Everyone is out to look out for their own a** and see what they can get out of the deal.
Just my two cents worth, and take it for what it is worth. I happen to be an American who thinks this country has no place in Iraq.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Apr 07
You make your points well, but you didn't answer the question. If we aren't getting any oil out of it, how is it about oil?