Need Help Setting a Trap!

Animal Trap - this is a live animal trap, the animal goes in but is trapped inside and can't get out. The animal can then be removed from the area humanly, no harm to the animal.
@byfaithonly (10698)
United States
May 1, 2007 5:06am CST
Ok need to be brief as I am finishing up a big project today but I desperatly need some help. My daughter, her fiance, and their 2 children (my grandchildren 1.5 and 4.5) live with my ex-husband. It's a nice house in the country and sets back some distance from the road. Over the last 3 weeks there have been 4 times that things have caused me great concern; 3 times they have found the lugnuts on her car tires loosened or even missing, all the air caps from her tires gone, my ex's truck has had 3 tires cut (not all the way through but obviously cut). Saturday late late night my daughter and her fiance were outside 'watching' and heard noices, saw a strange light at the back of the property, and saw 2 vehicles pass the house several times - all this within an hours time. She has called the police but they say they can't do anything unless they actually see who is doing it and were no help at all. None of us can afford security cameras right now so that although the best idea is out... I am at this point very concerned for the safety of my grandchildren and daughter - if one of those tires blew out or came off while driving down the highway I don't want to think what could happen. So, I need some ideas on how we can catch who is doing this - I love playing detective but can't set up all night watching plus we all have work... Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated and considered. I want to set some sort of trap for these people as I know it is someone trying to cause harm or trouble for my daughter and her family.
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@Largecar (56)
• United States
1 May 07
The only thing that I can think of is to go directly to the police station in person and file a report. Talk to someone there and see if possibly they can send out an officer which could hide somewhere on the property and keep an eye on the vehicles. If they won't, than try talking to a local sheriff office (if there is one), and/or get a hold of the state police and see if they can be of help in this matter. This is a very serious thing and could result in the possible injury of your ex, daughter, daughter's fiance, and grandchildren. So if they can't get the police involved, maybe your daughter, ex, or daughter's fiance has a couple friends that can stay over, and stay up to catch the person or persons in the act of vandalizing the vehicles. But I would seriously try to get the police involved with this as soon as possible, since they can arrest the person(s) involved right on the spot. I wish you and your family the best and really hope this comes to an end soon.
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
1 May 07
We have talked to the police. She called both township and state different times and they didn't even come to the house. Monday I talked in person to the cheif of police in my township and he gave me names and numbers of specific people to talk to one state police post and other in the township where my daughter lives. She talked to the state one and he told her to come into the station and have a trooper take a report. Mind you, I am normally very respectful to law enforcement officers but if I had been there with my daughter I would have given that trooper a piece of my mind... Took down her name and address and told her to go get locking lugnuts for her car.... Didn't even get all the information about what's been happening, go to the house to look around, and said if it happened again or if they knew who was doing it to call them.
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@dlkuku (1935)
• United States
1 May 07
I know you said you all can't afford security cameras, but what about a digital game camera? http://www.nativeoutdoors.com/scoutingcameras.html I saw a similiar one to these at Walmart for around $99.00. You can catch them in action and won't have to pay a fortune. They take pics at night as well as in the day, it might be worth looking into to.
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@linda345 (2661)
• Canada
1 May 07
Can you guys take turns staying up durning the night. If each takes a two hour shift, then it won't seem so bad and at least you will get to the bottom of it. I think it is terrible the police wont help.
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@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
1 May 07
Hi Faith, Oh that is dreadful in regards to someone doing this to your daughter, I think that the only way of finding out who is doing this is to have someone stay up all night to catch who is doing this or the other thing that you can do is to put lights on where the car is as maybe the car is situated in some dark area in the night this happened also to my daughter when she broke up with her ex boyfriend a few years ago and of course I understand it is frightening.
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• Canada
1 May 07
This is really not nice at ALL. If they can park their car close to the house, maybe they could afford to get motion detected lights fixed to the house, so that when anyone sets off the motion detector they come on. Also, I know you said they can't afford security cameras, but does anyone have a personal video camera that they could borrow for a few nights? They could maybe set it up in a bedroom window to point down at the car or whatever, and if the culprits set off the motion detector lights, then you have them on camera before they run. Then your daughter can go back to the police again, armed this time with the evidence. I hope you get this sorted. Please do keep us informed.
@tammyr (5946)
• Etowah, Tennessee
3 May 07
The motion detectoron video cameras operate by changes in the light and do not work in the dark. It would come on when the light did but it takes a few seconds for it to start recording, so they can easily get away. I tried this when a dog was killing our chickens.
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• Singapore
1 May 07
Faith, sorry to hear about this. Try thumbtacks - the dull kind so that they don't reflect. Scatter them all over where you think they might be. You know it would be fun when they step on them - if they bleed, you got their blood. You got their DNA and this is good evidence. If they drive over, you give them nice punctured tyres. Or if you can find those luminous powder, apply them on areas where they may touch. It would be fun to see them illuminated in the dark night. They might even be caught on TV and you will then know the culprits. Or at least scatter some flour on the floor so that you can see the footprint they left - so who knows? It might so some animals instead. I don't know the layout so it's hard to suggest more.
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@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
1 May 07
LOL - don't think thumbtacks would work, first it's a dirt/gravel drive where they park (my daughter and ex) so would be a major problem making sure they got picked up. Plus I'm sure these people are wearing shoes - I'm guessing their parking down the road and walking up to the house through the woods. I love the luminous powder idea - it would be fun if we were there watching... Now the flour might be close - thinking something that wouldn't wash or wear off though some kind of glue or something that would 'delay' their get-away.
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• Singapore
1 May 07
My suggestions are too amateurish anyway. :P
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• Singapore
25 May 07
Thanks for BR! :)
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@gberlin (3836)
2 May 07
Sorry Faith I do not have any experience in setting a trap for these wicked people. I can pray for you and your family. I think the best thing would be to stay up at night and try to catch them. The problem with digging a pit as one person suggested is that if the person get hurt they can sue your ex, even if they were intending to wreck your car. I like the motion detection lights and alarms on the cars. I believe the would deter most people. Maybe even a dog!
@webeishere (36313)
• United States
1 May 07
Yikes. This is horrible. I can't offer any suggestions actually other than ones you listed already. Seems someone is very vengefull or something along those lines. All I can say is keep calling the police and spooner or later they will tire of the calls and start some serious investigating maybe. Good luck to all the family in this also. Maybe a webcam set up might be a cheap alternative to a security camera. Just need the long cables to reach outside is all. HAPPY POSTINGS FROM GRANDPA BOB !!~
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• Philippines
2 May 07
Why not try to build a fence around your daughters parking space and put barbed wires on it...Broken glasses would be ideal too..or find someone who knows something about electricity and try to link something to her car to let it make a sound when someone comes near it.....or make some noise makers they will bump into that would make a noise or better yet get a dog...
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@kelly60 (4547)
• United States
9 May 07
Even though the police should be there to help, I know from experience that they do not always. I got 19 slashed tires, 1 cut brake line, and my lug nuts loosened twice (once where the tire fell off of my car while I was driving), the back door to my house was pried open and all they didn't seem to want to do anything. During the time this was happening, I bought motion lights for both the front and back doors. I took turns with my older boys on several nights taking shifts trying to catch them, but of course, they did not come around on those nights. I set up a camcorder, and videotaped until the tape ran out every night, then started over when I woke up and again every time I left or came home. I strung personal alarms around the yard with fishing line. (These work well to warn you that someone is there, although you may not be able to see who it is, it will let you know that there is someone there.) I filed reports with five reports with four different officers. I showed the officers the footprints next to the car and they told me that these were a common shoe and that they could not identify someone by these shoes. I showed them the path where the footprints led into my back yard and joined the path where my ex's friend always to get to his house but they did not care. This finally ended for me when my oldest son moved back to Michigan from Florida. My ex always knew pretty much what hours I kept, so it was much easier for him and/or his friends to do these things without being caught. Now there are other people around too, and lights on and off all hours of the day and night so nobody really knows whether there is really anyone up.
@kelly60 (4547)
• United States
9 May 07
After the tire came off the car, I started circling the car checking for footprints or anything else that looked suspicious and checking lug nuts to be sure that they were all tight, every time before getting into the car. In addition, I pumped the brake pedal to be sure that there was pressure. I suggest that your daughter do the same just to be sure if she thinks that there is any possibility that this could start back up. My ex does not pay his child support until he gets one of those letters saying that he is going to jail if he does not pay it within so long. When he gets the letter, he gets mad, and that is when he is likely to retaliate. I always get a copy when they send him the letter, so I always get nervous when I get one even though it has been a long time since anything has happened.
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
9 May 07
Oh goodness, this is even worse than what is going on with my daughter and her family - I am very concerned that it will end up with such as you though. I will add however this past week nothing has happened and am wondering if they are giving up or if they are planning worse.
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@slickcut (8141)
• United States
8 May 07
Oh this sounds very serious.I know the police won't do anything because they want to wait until something happens and then its to late.there is to many little accidents to not be worried,someone is trying to create a problem for your daughter and her husband.I really don't know what to do unless someone can catch them in the act.do you have any ideas...This sounds like a case for unsolved mysteries..Let us see what others have to say...
@slickcut (8141)
• United States
8 May 07
one person here meationed something that i think would be a good idea...A motion light.They are cheap and if you put on close to the cars,any motion and the lights will light up, that will cause the person big problem...Also if your ex lives in the country ,have you thought to get a few guinie,s they squeal real load day or night.or maybe a dog,a big one tied near the cars,they would not come around then..
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
8 May 07
Yes, it is very serious as far as I'm concerned. We do have a couple suspects though and one in particular is really standing out right now. Nothing has happened for just over a week now. Interesting that my grandson's father who my daughter is no longer with stopped paying any child support AGAIN, he's on probation but didn't pay anything for almost 4 weeks. End of last week he made a payment and now nothing has happened - in other words during the exact period of time he wasn't paying this stuff was going on, he makes a payment and the stuff stops. I am getting a very strong feeling that he may have been trying to cause harm to my daughter or even his own son so he wouldn't have to pay support - when he figured his idea wasn't working he decided to pay before he gets put in jail.... We are all watching this very closely and documenting every single thing.
@mjsdls (1840)
• United States
1 May 07
Boy this is a hard one. I pray for the safety of your family. I really have no suggestions. I just wanted to let you know I'm praying for you all. May the Lord protect your daughter and grandchildren in Jesus name.
• Philippines
2 May 07
I wish I could be of help but unfortunately, security cameras the only thing I know that would be most effective. I think there are cheaper nad generic brands available in the market, so try and check it out.Else, this is the cheapest way I know: Since everyone in your family leads a busy life, maybe, a little sacrifice from each is possible for just one night. Assign a member to guard secretly from inside the house where the outside is most visible.Everyone should take turn to make this plan work. Just one night for one week. Or maybe, 2 or 3 hours shifting schedule for the whole family every night for one week. Like what I've said, it's tough but it could work and it's cheaper than buying a security system. It just takes a little sacrifice.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
9 May 07
This may sound very inhumane and cruel and I'm totally, totally against them, but if things get desperate how about setting real traps...the kind of steel traps that are used for trapping animals...I know...sounds rotten and really inhumane and like I said I'm thorougly against these kind of traps, but it might be a last resort...you could have them set all over the place and camoflogued a bit so the ones responsible for all this don't see them...you would have to be careful that innocent animals don't get trapped though...that would really suck..but I really can't think of anything else...If these people are doing all these vicious acts against your family better the ones responsible get harmed than your family-----as they are obviously not thinking of the consequences of the dangers they are imposing to them
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@kelly60 (4547)
• United States
9 May 07
I thought about this too when I was having all of my problems, but the problem is that if the criminal is injured on her property she is liable, and he can sue her and probably win. If he had a knife in his pocket and not in her tire, she could not prove that he was doing anything other than walking across her property. If he had a tire iron in his hand, and you could not prove that it touched the tire, it is all the same story. He may have no business there, but according to the law (at least according to the police here); he is not doing anything illegal. The police told me that unless I had "No Trespassing" signs posted no more than 20 feet apart, completely surrounding my property; I could not even get him for walking through my yard even though I had told him not to, and posted them within 3 feet on both sides of the path he used to cross my yard!
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
9 May 07
Well, some may think it inhuman but certainly not any more than attempted murder of a 2 and 4 year old which is how I look at it tampering with tires on vehicles my grandchildren ride in regularly. I had actually thought of this myself but my only concern was not the inhumanity but concern that someone would forget to trip the traps and my daughter or grandchildren step on them instead. My fear and thinking is that who ever is doing these things is thinking of the dangers and doing this for that reason - to cause danger to someone in my daughter's family.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
9 May 07
I'm glad then that you didn't think then that I was out of line suggesting the traps--the traps could be set up only at night, since I'm gathering that's when the culprits are doing all the sabotague, then first thing in the morning place the safety locks on again..
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
2 May 07
hi faith... i'm sorry to hear that someone is out there trying to harm your daughter and her family... i think the best idea is to get help from the police as this is a serious matter... ask for their help... i think they should be willing to help you as it is their duty to protect the citizens... setting up traps won't be any good as i think they might still be able to get away if they are professionals... the other options is to have shifts between your family members to take turn to look after your ex-husband's house... sorry i can't help much in this matter... but i can put you in my prayer and i think prayer helps a lot as well as God is the best protector than we can have as He never sleeps... He will always keep watching over His children who loves Him... good luck and may God Bless you...
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@tammyr (5946)
• Etowah, Tennessee
3 May 07
p3halliwel2005 gave me an idea. We use to run a wire from the distributer to the seat of a intended victim. Maybe a mechanic could help you to fix some sort of shock to anyone touching the car. Another idea is to sleep in the car. Any body coming near should awaken the person and they can see the intruder. Getting the help of neighbors will work in some places, dependiing on the neighbors. How about a mean dog? Do they have one they could post near the car? Maybe a friend has one they could 'loan' her? Wal-mart did have a video camera for about $25 that hooks to a vcr. that is not a very steep price for saving their lives. You may need a outside light, as I am not sure if it works in the dark. I do hope that this is mearly a very stupid prank and does not happen any more. I will keep them in my prayers.
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
2 May 07
This does not sound good. Why are these people doing this? Do your family know who they are? I guess the Police can't help much in this matter, but it is still worth repirting. I am not much good at thinking up traps. The only, reasonably effective deterant I can think of is to get a dog. A fairly big dog, that is already trained, or trainable, that barks at strangers, but it still friendly with the children.
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@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
2 May 07
you might try a neighborhood watch? get some close friends to help out. maybe consult with a private detective. There are some private detective web sites where you may get free consulatation. Maybe you have a few close people who could take turns checking on things and keeping watch.
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@Dseacrest (203)
• United States
2 May 07
I have had a simular situation. People always seemed to try to key my car or something of that nature. I finally broke down and bought a motion light. If they trigger the light it scares them off, or get a motion detector that sounds in the house. That way if someone is messing around they will know. You have to hide it in a none suspicious place though. Other than those I am not sure. Hope that helps a little though.
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• India
3 May 07
hi this is really scary speacilly of the two kids....anyway i have a simple suggestion though i dont know if it will work...why not tie a bell or battery alarm on the tyres without it being visible you know maybe at the back and when someone approches and touches the tyre you can hear the bell or the alarm but someone should sleep in the car or atleast someone should be awake to hear the bell go off......just a thought :) but will also pray for the safety of your family...goodluck!