Do you homeschool - or would you consider it?
By Amy
@artemis432 (7474)
Abernathy, Texas
August 23, 2007 12:18pm CST
I've heard some positive things about homeschooling. Sometimes in local public schools, the teachers no longer care or aren't good at their jobs and the kids are in a very low percentile as far as tests. Kids learn a love learning - and not just to memorize information and then regurgitate it for a test - but actually to place information in long term memories. There are plenty of groups for support and SOCIAL ACTIVITY - the last being what many who are against it bring up - that the kids don't learn to be social. They can even join sports teams and other groups. Many of these kids go on to Ivy League schools.
There is a flip side, schools can possibly have more resources, some teachers actually care and do a good job - six hours of school - means six hours free to do other work or chores for stay at home moms - sahms.
What do you think - or what has your experience been - either in public schools or homeschooling.
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@ivyoon (673)
• United States
23 Aug 07
I have sent my children to public school and had bad experiences with safety in the school building, among other concerns including the education they were receiving.
I have been homeschooling my kids ever since. (They are both in 4th grade this year, although my daughter is only supposed to be in 2nd grade) and it has been very beneficial to them both. It is a lot of hard work, and we live in Pennsylvania, which is one of the states that has extremely strict homeschooling laws. I have to keep a daily log, list all the materials and text we use, keep a portfolio with samples of our work, and hand in an affidavit for every school year. There are a lot of homeschool groups in my area, but I do most of it on my own. It's been hard but fun and rewarding for all of us.
My kids do just fine socially, and they don't even attend any sports or groups. In fact, my kids are probably more socially adept than children who go to public school because in public school you are actually taught NOT to socialize, if you remember.
It's a battle between whether you feel capable and ready to take on the task and whether you are willing to make sacrifices in order to stay home and do the schooling.
These are just my experiences, and I don't want to offend anyone, public school is just not what I want for my children. I plan on homeschooling them until they are of high school age (or test high enough to get into high school) and then let them decide if they want to attend a public high school (which I won't really want, but will allow them to do if they feel they would like to have that experience) or whether they would like to continue to be homeschooled. In the event that they want to continue to be homeschooled during their high school years, I will probably hire a tutor to help me in areas that I did not have the fortune of learning in high school such as Calculus, Trig, and any language(s) they want to take.
I really think it is a family decision, but it has done wonders for my family and I am thankful every day that I am capable of schooling my children at home.
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@ivyoon (673)
• United States
24 Aug 07
I agree 100%. Both of my kids are already learning things that I know I didn't learn when I was there age, and that's what I want.
They are both doing 5th grade math (although my son should only be on a 4th grade level, and my daughter on a 2nd grade level).
They would not be able to do that if they were in a public school, and I don't have the money to send them to a Private School or a Prep School.
I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing because my kids love to learn and I want to keep it that way.
No dumbing down for them!!
Thanks for your reply, and good luck to you.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Agree with a lot of your posting, kudos to you. Schools nowadays seem like a giant trap for kids so their parents can go work. What's taught is barely anything too, I mean compare our test results and our education curriculum to other countries; and the thing about this is, 20-30 years ago it was completely different, much better quality and standards. Not anymore though, and it seems to get worse each year (looking at the whole picture, it's like watching an episode of the twilight zone).
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
24 Aug 07
No no my dear, thank you, and good luck to you! Your story is very awesome and inspiring. And to anyone who is vehemently opposed to homeschooling, look closely at the products our public schools are producing (yea I know its not all school's fault... Parents, media, society...yea I'm looking at you guys too).
And most times I can tell what kids are being homeschooled (or at the very least properly parented), like the one that helped me picked up a dropped grocery a few days back. She helped smiled, was very polite and even guessed what I was gonna for dinner. The mom and I talked for a brief minute and even though it was very short, I was amazed and proud. Keep doing what you do homeschoolers, and good luck to you. Well wishes to you and your children!
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@MelodyRhapsodical (1248)
• United States
23 Aug 07
I would only homeschool my child until a certain age, I wouldn't homeschool them all the way through high school. When they are young is when their mind is so vulnerable, so I'd definitely consider homeschooling all the way through elementary school, and once middle school age hits (I believe it's 10/11?) I would send them to school. Kids don't only need to learn to be social, but they need to learn how to deal with peer pressure, they need to learn how to public speak, they need to learn people skills in general, and they're not going to get that from social activity groups, I don't think.
But homeschooling when they're young is a good idea I believe, that's when it's most important. Homeschooling an 16 year old child is beyond pointless, I believe.
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
23 Aug 07
What a great and detailed answer. I think middle school is 10/11 if you start in sixth grade. You may be right about social groups not offering peer pressure problems or public speaking - though you may be able to get around that depending what groups like debating teams they join. I never dealt with peer pressure only because I didn't have those kinds of friends.
I tend to agree about homescholing teenagers. Definitely a far different situation. Thanks for being my first reply MelodyRhapsodical.
@ivyoon (673)
• United States
24 Aug 07
It's not necessarily pointless to homeschool a teenager.
It depends on whether your pulling the teen out of public school or whether you've been homeschooling all along.
I believe that when my kids reach teenaged years they will still want to be homeschooled and will learn more than they would if they went to a public school, but that's just my opinion and my kids. Every kid is different, but I think that if a child starts out being homeschooled, they're easier to homeschool as teens. I know a lot of teens who were homeschooled and they aren't the typical teenager, believe me. They are much more well-rounded and equipped to deal with life than the average teen, and most of them still deal with peer pressure from friends or at work, etc.
If they are well rounded enough, they'll already know how to deal with peer pressure because they'll already have a solid sense of self and won't want to go against their own principles.
@MelodyRhapsodical (1248)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Solid point. All I'll say is that a child needs more than just homeschool. They need to learn how to succeed with different people, different teachers - strict teachers, boring teachers, those that only read out of the book, those who never even use books, etc. They need to learn how to work and succeed in groups. They need to experience things like school societies, parades, dances.. there's more to school life than just learning. I agree homeschooling is good, but there's a point where the child is already smart, right? And already mature, right? You taught him, after all. So let him experience school life to the max. They need to succeed without seeing mom or dad there, believe it or not, that is definitely a "safety net" of sorts. If one taught the child well during those little years up until 13/14, he can go to school and experience the other side of it, so he gets all the dimensions and is well-rounded. In my opinion, of course.
@shannon76 (1232)
• United States
23 Aug 07
I think it's great when parents home school and when the parents are that dedicated to do it. for me, I don't think I will homeschool. But you never know. The Lord might want different for my children so I guess we'll cross that bridge when it comes. But for now, I don't want to homeschool.
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@shannon76 (1232)
• United States
24 Aug 07
We do have a couple of great schools we are consdering although my husband does want to send him to a private school (I don't care either way as long as he gets a great education).
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
23 Aug 07
Thank you for sharing. I guess if the spirit moves you to do so you will. I have to assume that you're lucky enough to have good public schools in your area or you will send your child to private school?
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
23 Aug 07
I've seen both some very good and some very bad homeschooling situations. When I was growing up, many of the kids that I knew that were homeschooled were typically the brightest, and were far ahead of what the kids their own age were doing in school. I always thought if the parents could handle it, homeschooling was a great idea.
But I met one young lady whose parents chose to homeschool her essentially so they could exert more control over her, and she had problems getting her high school diploma (or the equivalent) because witholding it from her was part of how they controlled her. Most of their reasonings were religious in this case, though I've seen other cases of abuse that were covered up by homeschooling.
The other major issue I've seen is parents who decide they are going to homeschool but don't really put enough effort into it. I have a friend whose younger siblings are being homeschooled by her mother, and she says that they rarely actually do "school" and when they do it's mostly craft projects and such. I feel sorry for those kids that they are being failed by their parents in such a way, and it's going to be a major stumbling block for them later in life.
So I guess it really depends on the situation. I would consider homeschooling if my child were having a really hard time in regular school if he were failing because of his learning style conflicting with the teaching style, or if he were being treated unfairly. But I wouldn't choose to homeschool unless there were definitely a problem with the local school that couldn't be resolved, because of the effort and commitment involved. I've just seen too many parents that took on the task and then weren't up to it.
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@ivyoon (673)
• United States
24 Aug 07
It really is a lot of work, and sometimes I feel completely drained, but when I have a conversation with my 7yr old and she can speak to me like an intelligent little grown up, I feel better. It is tough, though. But I love it.
It is sad to hear that some parents use it to control their kids, I want it to set mine free.
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
23 Aug 07
You bring up some excellent points lecanis. You have to factor in the parents ability and willingness give time and energy, the kids ability and willingness ( alot of it is self directed) what the public schools have to offer as well as homeschooling support in your area. Our kids our future as trite as that is and we have to take their best interests to heart not ours.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Excellent post, and I agree with your points. Some homeschool kids are much brighter than the mush "learning" in public screw-alls(schools), but there are some control freak parents that use it to really mess up their kids. Also, sometimes the state government tries to screw-all homeschool kids saying they didn't meet the requirements (all while saying "that'll learn your uppity self to not use our substandard schools").
@sunshine4 (8703)
• United States
23 Aug 07
I don't home school. I do have a ton of respect for the parents that do. I don't have the patience with my children to be able to home school. They don't like to listen to me in general, so if I were to tell them it was time for schoolwork, I don't see it working. They are fine when they come home from school and I tell them it is homework time but I just don't see it working with my family.
I also love the fact that in a public school they socailize with other kids their age. They are all involved in sports and will possible get scholarships for college because of their sporting abilities.
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
24 Aug 07
I may well have the same patience problems - my child is only nine months. The nice thing is, as I found in my research, is not only do they gain a love for learning and one on one attention, the homeschooling groups whch are in most in every area, as I say initially, offer sports groups, field trips, and other extracurricular activities that encourage socializing on a daily basis. Some classes, like science, some choose to utilize public schools for, and many parents 'pool' their kids together.
I bet you wish your kids were still babies so it would be less frustrating, while I wish my baby were already a kid and could talk and play independently - tell me likes, dislikes, favourite things. :)
Hey, just as a suggestion - when the stress at home gets too much - get a massage - and to avoid stress on your wallet - you can go to a massage therapy school clinic. They charge a nominal fee (remember to tip!) and it can be very relaxing!
@vicki2876 (5636)
• Canada
23 Aug 07
All my three childern go to public school. I went to a catholic school growing up and had to wear a uniform which I think is a great idea. Takes away from the pressure to get the latest fashions. I have thought of homeschooling but never did do it. Reason was the lack of support the school has. But truely I like that they socialize with other childern.
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
24 Aug 07
I like the idea of school uniforms too - same reason - you won't be begged to spend a $100 for a pair of sneakers!
Vicki, thanks for responding to my discussion. Hope you check out my others!
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
24 Aug 07
After fighting with school officials for a year, missing bus times repeatedly. The drivers did not keep their schedule always 10 fifteen minutes early or late. Dragging three babies from bed to drive two miles, four round trip so two little girls could go to school. Being late for work and not able to afford day care. The school finally sent administration out and they advised since my daughter and hubby who live very remote and rural. Their Jobs were being jepordized and conflicting with busing schedules and problems with bigger students bullying the little girls, not able to pick up either. The school advised my daughter home school. I live two miles away and could not meet the schedule either for health and other reasons. But now with the advise of school officals the kids home school with me. They actually have learned more, faster and are ahead of their cousins they see regularly who attend public school.
The youngest is almost three and he knows ABC's, numbers to 25, colors, shapes, object identification, songs by heart and much more. The oldest is 11 and doing 7th grade work.
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
24 Aug 07
Sorry it was so rough Cela, but at least you and your family were able to work it out. Your story brought up another part of my own argument. I was partially homeschooled, pre-kindergarden. Age 2 and up I too was able to know ABCs, Numbers beyond 1000, colors, and the like (your 3 year old is awesome by the way, keep encouraging him and your other kids.) Same with the 11 year old, I was doing 9th grade science, math, reading at that particular time in my youth.
Keep it up, you've got my support and admiration. Wish you, your kids and the family the best.
Pro.
@samtaylorskykierajen (7977)
• Canada
24 Aug 07
I don't know anyone personally who has ever homeschooled but like you , I have heard a lot of positive about being able to do this .
I would love to do this if I was able to afford to do it and could find someone who would be able to do it as I wouldn't be smart enough to homeschool our children . I believe there would be more opportunities for my children if they were homeschooled as I have no trust in the school system .
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@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
24 Aug 07
It sounds an interesting and awesome idea, but I have not come across homeschool kind of thing, here in India. May be it is prevalent in your country.
@williamjisir (22819)
• China
24 Aug 07
I have been hometeaching my son this whole summer vacation till today. I am glad that I have time to hometeach him while I am at home for the summer vacation. I have taught him the two new English books that he will have to learn in the coming semester. He is very happy to learn the books in advance. I feel that I have done a great job for my son to enhance his English study.
@eachen2002 (889)
• United States
24 Aug 07
My daughter is in homeschool and she get to be with the other kids that are homeschooled because cordianate activties to get together and have alot of fun.
@toe_ster (770)
• United States
23 Aug 07
I was never homeschooled. I grew up in a place that was mandatory kids go to school. There had to be special circumstances for a kid to be homeschooled. So I never considered homeschool anything until I moved here. I met some families through my church that homeschool together. They trade off subjects and every day or every week they rotate houses. The kids still go to regular school for some activities or classes but are mostly homeschooled. They are some of the smartes kids I ever met. I think by being away fromthe social distractions and peer pressure of regular schools it has instilled a love an importance of knowledge andlearning. They still have friends and activities outside of their homeschool and because they switch it up with the parents that it works out so well. It is not the same old everyday house or parent teaching. Also theylearned about thigns that werenot even taught in public schools. It is really good. I only hesitate because I need a break from my kids and don't feel I have much to contribute to the group learning. Maybe in a couple of years.
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
23 Aug 07
toe_ster, you bring up some excellent points and examples about homeschooling. Its nice to hear from someone who actually knows kids who have been homeschooled or are being so.
I too wonder if what I have to contribute - will I be smart enough for todays kids? I just finished one leg of schooling before I got pregnant, and did well - high GPA - but this doesn't necessarily mean I can teach - would know how to - and each student learns differently. Will I be aware enough to notice how they take in and process knowledge so that I can present in the best for them?
What of subjects like math that I'm not so great in - I'm nervous enough about helping with homework! Its been so long! I have about four years to decide though - my baby is not even a year yet.
Thanks for the response, toe_ster its nice to see you in one of my discussions.
@vinzen (1020)
• India
24 Aug 07
Hi, personally i would prefer normal school over homeschooling as i feel the exposure the child gets in school is not as much at home, no matter where we put them or with whom the kids minlgle. It is something totally different at school. Agreed that times are changing now days and teachers dont care much adding to the low grades the kids get, but for that maybe persoanl tutions can be taken or you as a parent can dvote more time and teach your child, the same what you would be doing in homeschooling too. Let them attend normal school in the mornings,which you can take out 1-2 hours daily and teach them also at home in the evenings,so that they have the best of both the worlds.
Homeschools and playschools are best suitable for smaller kids i feel where there is just activity and play time, along with love, care for the kids, those smaller kids aged 2-3-4 years, do need a homely atmosphere too, but older kids i feel are better off in a proper school with so many other activities besides studies going on. Each person to their own views, its just what i feel.
And yes, all teachers are not bad, nor are all schools that bad, just a few are. And that happens with every parent and child, we all face this problem but i normally do what i have suggested above with my kids. Maybe you can also try the same and see if it makes a difference in your childs grades and percentage.
@ranitam22 (1146)
• United States
23 Aug 07
I went to public school, but that was about 10 years ago, so I know that times have changed now. Kids today have a lot to deal with in school and some of the teachers today aren't doing enough to teach their students. I guess as far as the decision of homeschooling, it depends i guess on your school district and how well you think they do in educating the kids. Everyone wants their child to have the best education and if they are not getting it from school. They should get it from their parents, but just make sure the parent has enough knowledge and skill to teach the child. they should also have patience. I think it would be easier to maybe be impatient or yell at a child if they don't get an answer right if you are their parent, more than a teacher would somebody else's child so that could play a role in the child's learning too. If they are scared that their parents' will yell at them if they don't get the answer right, they are hurting them in the long run.
I was one of those people who was against it for the reason of the socialness of being around kids their own age, but like you said there are all kinds of team sports. My other issue was to make sure the parent was qualified to teach because everyone is not a good teacher to others. It just really depends on the individual situation.
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
23 Aug 07
I think if I decide to do this, I would take some education courses, get my teaching certificate. I think some people are just naturals at this though. I know I would be good at being patient and supportive no matter what their shortcomings might be in learning, if any. I do like the idea that parents are supportive of others homeschooling - so if one has a strength in math, as another answered, they teach math to their own kids and others. And some courses are taught in school - I imagine some of the science courses.
Another great answer ranitam!
@jiffys_frog_woman (4050)
• United States
24 Aug 07
iam considering home school for my 4 year old she is adhd and bipolar and i know teachers dont have time to work with her one on one. so i am home schooling
@shadjee1 (602)
• Philippines
24 Aug 07
well, I still prefer my kid going to a regular school over homeschool. Yes One advantage of homeschool is being close to a child but I am afraid that when the time comes he needs to socialize, he may not be that confident because he is just meeting the same people everyday. I also want him to learn independence at an early stage so that he can be street smart as well.
I think I can still be close to my child even if he goes to a regular school. Its just a matter of making an effort to spend time with him.
@lantisb3 (114)
• Philippines
23 Aug 07
I would like to try homeschooling out because I really have no time during weekdays to go to classes, and with homeschooling maybe I can just study at home after work or on the weekend.
I'm already working at a mining company but since I still want to stand out from the rest, I think I'll look for a good school that offers homeschooling.