More Hypocrisy from the Left...
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
September 25, 2007 8:40am CST
The students listening to Ahmadinejas's speech laughed at him when he said there aren't any in Iran.
If there are no gays in Iran, then why are there people in his prisons being tortured for homosexual behavior? I wonder if they would laugh if a US president was torturing gay people and denying any Americans were gay?
Just more examples of the left's hypocrisy.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
25 Sep 07
Well, I doubt there are gays in Iran, or at least not openly gay, as all openly gay were likely executed. But hey! That's not as bad a human right's abuse as say, listening to terrorist's phone conversations when they call to the U.S. or someone in the U.S. calls them.
- Don't you know? Pres Bush (and every conservative) is THE enemy, THE danger. And Castro, Chavez and Ahmadinejab are heroes because they hate Bush, the reaL danger to the free world and civilization.
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
25 Sep 07
Great point flowerchilde! Hilarious! Great use of sarcasm.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
25 Sep 07
I guess I'm a tad confused, what does this have to do with the lefties? I apologize I haven't been keeping up with the news lately, all I know is he spoke at Columbia.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 07
Columbia University is very liberal, most the student body are to the left, and the faculty and administration is definetly left wing.
When Ahmadinejad was asked about homosexuals being imprisoned and tortured in Iran, he said that the "that phenominon doesn't exist in his country". The crowed laughed, booed and made fun of him for it.
The hypocrisy is, they wouldn't have laughed, booed or made fun of any American leader who said such a thing. They would have stormed the stage and demanded his head.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
25 Sep 07
Thanks for clarifying for me! You have a point, if Bush said something like that there would be mass protests everywhere. I'm honestly wondering why they invited him to come speak anyway.
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@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
29 Sep 07
Soccermom, you are not alone in that department! One would have thought that at a time when the US government is raging hell on Iran, that no Iranian official would be allowed to speak (or to Iranized) anywhere in the USA! Now, I really wonder who the hypocrites are?
@estherlou (5015)
• United States
25 Sep 07
I thought I heard that they execute homosexuals...not put them in prison. The news talk shows were showing segments of the protestors etc. all evening long. There were so many people that felt he had the right to come to talk. Right! What rights? He's not an American citizen! Oh...right...the ones that aren't citizens seem to get rights and privileges nowadays.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 07
Exactly, it's only Americans who have any kind of responsibilities anymore... everyone else should be accepted as they are... no matter how vile.
I'm sure they would make a case for Hitler to speak, but FDR lied to get us into WWII, so he should shut his face.
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
25 Sep 07
They would laugh if the president or any public official claimed there were no gays in the US. And they have protested the iranian embassy on behalf of 2 sixteen year old kids who were hanged for being gay. They were caught holding hands, in a non platonic fashion. Generally I can see where you are coming from whether I agree or not. This time, I don't get it. They laughed because they know there are gay people everywhere. Makes sense to me. I'd laugh too.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
26 Sep 07
of course it's laughable for him to deny there are gay people in Iran... What isn't laughable is the fact that he isn't ignorant, he's just out to make sure his words are prophetic.
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
2 Oct 07
Sure, there are no gays in Iran because they are all hanged, or so deeply closted that they don't know what they are. But this isn't a problem from the left or the right. Dems and Reps are equally responsible for denying the existance of varying sexualities.
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
2 Oct 07
Sure, there are no gays in Iran because they are all hanged, or so deeply closted that they don't know what they are. But this isn't a problem from the left or the right. Dems and Reps are equally responsible for denying the existance of varying sexualities.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
25 Sep 07
No, they wouldn't laugh...any more than they would laugh it that was happening with any other group, with the possible exception of Christians.
What I think they were laughing at was the fact that he was in denial about the existence of gays in Iran...along with the other statements that he was making.
He did not get nearly as warm of a reception as a lot of people thought he would...and the guy who introduced him included an insult in the introduction calling him a dictator. There was a little more to it, but I don't have the quote handy.
The students laughed at him because of the lies he was saying and because they knew he was lying.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
25 Sep 07
I'm pretty sure they were laughing because they knew it was an ignorant statement on his part - not that they knew it because most of the gays in Iran are being persecuted in such a cruel manner.
As for "leftist hypocrisy", I don't know why you're complaining. The school invited the Iranian president there, and did practically nothing but insult him and ask him loaded questions, from what I've heard.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 07
The fact that they invited him, knowing his record is bad enough.
This is the same school that kicked out the ROTC and military recruiters. Apparently our troops aren't welcome on their campus, but someone who is killing them is just find and dandy.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
26 Sep 07
He was allowed to speak, which is more than Columbia University was willing to do for Sen. McCain. He wasn't physically attacked, like the "enlightened" students at Columbia University did to Jim Gilcrist. He wasn't told he couldn't even come onto the campus, unlike the Accuracy in Acedemia Convention.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
1 Oct 07
One of the points that has not been made is that Columbia justified having him speak because of the 1st Ammendment and Freedom of Speech. When does the Freedom of Speech apply to our enemys but not to US Citizens - Military Recurters, ROTC professors, and students who want to participate in the ROTC Program and the Minutemen. It seems that the 1st Ammendement only applies to those who speak the Liberal agenda.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Oct 07
Exactly! The way I see it, to the left the only ones the 1st Amendment apply to are those who speak out against the U.S.
@4ftfingers (1310)
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27 Sep 07
Yeah I see what you mean but I think their laughs were in awkward confusion. If Bush told you something like that you would just think it was a bad joke so you would laugh. The terrible thing here is that Ahmadinejas wasn't joking, so in hindsight it looks bad to laugh at something like that.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Sep 07
Oh, I agree that their laughter was awkward and mocking him, but as I've said before, if it was Bush or pretty much any American saying the same thing, they wouldn't have laughed.
I mean, they physically attacked Jim Gilcrist simply because he spoke out against illegal aliens.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Oct 07
We all have the right to speak... but no one has the right to be heard. Giving somoeone else a forum is a choice, not a responsibility.
@4ftfingers (1310)
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29 Sep 07
Yeah that's true. I think this is the downside to the left.
They are trying to express their anti-Bush and republican feelings by almost celebrating someone who the republicans have so much opposition to. In this case they are playing a dangerous game because with his random threats and careless words Ahmadinejad does pose a threat. So people like him should not be celebrated.
I do agree with letting his voice be heard, but he shouldn't be adhered to on a personal level.
@Tarrish (562)
• United States
28 Sep 07
What are they suppose to do? Run up there like savages and beat the man for his statement? They booed him, yes. They couldn't do anything but that. The president did invite him to the school, and if it was an American leader saying those things the kids would have done the same. If it was our country leader we would have every right to protest. He's going back to his country, so it's not like they're going to follow him and protest there.
Of course there are homosexuals in Iran, they are just to afraid to be open about it. He would love to think that there aren't any there, but the jokes on him.
If this was a left vs right argument I would expect a little more. I think you have fallen short on your example. Nice try though.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Sep 07
No, the reserve running up there like savages for Americans like Jim Gilcrist. In fact, they did exactly that when he spoke at Columbia University.
@jodenton (222)
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25 Sep 07
I reckon that, although the "lefties" probably didn't like what the Iranian president said, and as you said the students did boo him, the audience was treating the leader with some respect.
People in another country have no idea about that country's customs etc etc and so have no right to storm the stage asking for his head. They do have the right to storm the stage and ask for their own presidents head as they know the customs.
Its people that invade countries to change their social structure for better or worse that are showing disrespect.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 07
So, since he is the leader of a country that tortures homosexuals, then we should respect that and let him speak?
What kind of absolute idiocy is that?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Sep 07
So what rapist would you like coming to speak to your organization of choice?
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@meikaidi (24)
• United States
27 Sep 07
When I hear things that are absolutely ABSURD I laugh...
I laughed when I heard that he claimed their were no gays in Iran
I WOULD laugh if Bush were to claim the same thing.
But laughing at it does not mean I am taking it lightly. Sometimes the absurdity of something is so large that it is impossible not to laugh at it. And when I say I would laugh... it would be more a response that shows surprise than something being funny... and I am sure this is how the students also felt. SURPRISED that he could actually deny something like this.
SO, i am a "lefty" and am NOT a hypocrite.
I don't think you can categorize all of us liberals the same... do not trap us into corners and assume we are all alike.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Sep 07
and don't expect me to fill every post with infantile disclaimers about how I don't mean "all" or "everyone". I figure the readers are smart enough to already understand that.
It's not the laughing as a response that makes them hypocrites, it's that they WOULDN'T laugh if Prs. Bush or some rightwing leader said the same thing.