Pure & Utter Disrespect.

Swearing Kids & Disrespect - Disrespect the nation
@Malyck (3425)
Australia
October 12, 2007 12:14am CST
I seriously need some other, external opinions on this one, I am just FUMING! So I live with my boyfriend and his family - my boyfriend and I are both 18 years old. A friend of his mother's came around with her two children, a seven year old girl and a ten year old boy (Shaniya and Byron), the same age and genders as my boyfriend's younger siblings (Brittany and Clide). The girls were happily playing in Brittany's room, with their dolls and talking of school and such, while the boys were out in the kitchen, the visiting boy on Clide's computer. So my boyfriend and I are supervising, because the two mum's have locked themselves privately in the bedroom. After about half an hour of Byron on Clide's computer, Clide asked if he could use it again and was told by the other 10 year old boy to "F*ck off and leave him alone" and was called an "annoying d*ckhead". Understandable, Clide ran to his older brother, my boyfriend, crying and told him what happened (I had been in the next room listening and shocked as this happened). Allen, my boyfriend came in and said to Byron. "Listen mate, this is not your house, and not your computer, if my brother asks you to get off, you do, and you don't swear at him - ever. Do you understand?" To which Byron said "Whatever" before continuing to use the computer. Allen spun him around on the chair and repeated: "Do you understand?" Byron also called Allen a d*ckhead and tried to get back to the computer. "Do you understand? This is my home, don't speak to me like that, I expect an apology to me and Clide!" Byron continued to ignore him, and Allen asked him again "Do you understand?", before both mothers burst out of their room, Byron's mother yelling at Allen and threatening him. "Don't you ever speak to my son like that again or I'll call the cops on you!" she said. "Get away from him, or I'll call the police. You're a child, you can't tell him what to do! Get away!" She was hysterical and continued to threaten him with the police. I couldn't help but interject: "Excuse me, we're no children, and we had every right to say something, your son is very disrespectful and needs disciplining" "You're only a child, you can't say that, you have no right. If he comes near my son again, I'll call the cops!" And then she barged past my boyfriend and I to get Shaniya, calling to her to quickly get out of the house and saying that Allen has problems. She barged past us again, and I simply said "It's not very polite to push as, excuse yourself and we would have moved" and once again I was called a child. They have just left, and now Allen's own mother is yelling at him telling him he was wrong! As far as I am concerned, regardless of our age, we have the right to discipline and interject in this situation in our own home, especially since neither parent even bothered to be present to supervise the children in question. I am still shaking from this event, I am so furious that not only was Clide disrespected and sworn at by a supposed friend who is also only a young kid, but that I was in turn called a child and disrespected. I just can't believe this whole thing, and this woman's ignorance and rudeness! Do you think we were right in what we did, or was she? Share your opinions and stories on this matter please. *Names have been changed, and paraphrased quotes to the best of my ability. *calm, measured breaths* Malyck.
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24 responses
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
30 Oct 07
Wow that's just wrong. Obviously, appropriate discipline is not present in their house. Your boyfriend was right in what he did, as were you. His behaviour was inappropriate and rude. Congrats on the birthday (?). :)---
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• United States
13 Oct 07
Well Malyck, that is really rediculous! I think you are considered an adult at 18 and of course someone needed to say something to the 10 year old, that was really out of line and disrespectful. The mother is obviously mixed up about who the child was in the situation because she surely acted like one herself, and from what you said its no wonder the 10 yo acts the way he does. Hes getting it from his mother no doubt! I agree with you, that was totally wrong for him to say to anyone, and he DOES need some discipline! He'll have the cops called on him in the future if he keeps up with this attitude. Bay Lay Gray xx
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@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
13 Oct 07
That's so true - keep up that sort of treatment to others, and that kid will land himself in a fight or two, and altercations with the authorities. If I were his mother, I would have been thankful that someone actually put him in his place, but she's obviously the type who thinks kids can get away with anything because they're only children and they don't know what they're doing or some BS like that. In a completely non-violent way, I feel like strangling her =P lol.
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
13 Oct 07
See Bay, thats exactly how I see it too. I'm sure the kid will screw up somewhere and think he can bait his mom. But it'll be him writing a check he just can't cash and both him and ma will get a cold dose of reality. If it doesn't happen, then somewhere along the line he'll be taken down a peg. Believe me the real world doesn't tolerate adults acting like Byron, so if Byron keeps being himself or gets worse, someone or a whole bunch of people are gonna call him on it. And that will be that. Maybe he'll learn something maybe he wont. I'm sure an event like Bay and I described will happen though.
• United States
13 Oct 07
Leave it to Karma sweetie! This kid will pull this sh!t elsewhere and when his mother comes round to "protect" her son, she will get hers too. Then maybe her son will see that running your mouth to whom-ever is not a WISE thing to do! Since he is obviously learning from actions and not words, it will give him a well needed wake up call. I read some other responses about spanking, I think its all good! There is a way to punish a child through spanking and like you said, not getting out of control with it where it turns into a beating. Bay Lay Gray xx
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
12 Oct 07
OH HELL NO!! Does your bfs mother KNOW what that other child said, the language he was using??? If a kid, teen or adult came into my house and spoke that way to my child I'd knock the ever loving crap outta them!! I can't believe your bfs mom sided with the OTHER MOTHER even though HER CHILD was the one being verbally abused and disrespected!! Thats absolutely UNACCEPTABLE IMO....your bfs mother should be THANKING AND PRAISING both you and your bf for stepping up, speaking out and doing what was right which was not only defending the little one first and foremost but also standing your ground when it comes to the rules of the house/demanding respect in the home and so on.... I'm just floored right now! I can't even begin to imagine how upset the two of you are and how about the little brother?? He must be devastated that not only was he talked to like that but heres his mother yelling at his big brother for standing up for him!! Unbelievable! I'm sorry but I find BOTH mothers attitude and behaviour disgusting...I really do...and I applaud both you and your man for doing what was the right thing to do!
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@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
12 Oct 07
I agree with you, I can't believe his mum either. It's kind of typical of her, though, siding with her friend rather than her own son, even when he is clearly in the right. A few months ago, she was dating this guy... Anyway, I'd made dinner for the kids before my man and I stayed at a friend's for the night. As we'd expected, she invited him over for the night while we were out. Which was all cool. What I didn't like, was the fact that even though he knew I'd cooked, he went and got fish and chips and lollies for the kids, and no-one cleaned up. So we came home the next morning to find chips, paper, lollies and lolly wrappers all over the house, plates covered in sauce, sauce all over the bench, cordial spills and other assorted junk in the previously clean kitchen. We just asked why he bought them food when he knew I'd stayed home for longer to cook, and why no-one made sure the house was cleaned up and the kids were behaving. He told us to shut up, and Allen asked him to leave, and his mum sided with the boyfriend. Pathetic, huh? His mum just has really bad judgement and taste in people, because she's actually really nice and intelligent, I don't know why she does such stupid and wrong things like that... Thanks so much for your response, you always make me laugh (where appropriate), or smile or whatever. I particularly enjoyed "I'd knock the ever loving crap outta them!!" =D Have a great one, Raven! Mal.
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@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
13 Oct 07
As far as smacking, I don't think it barbaric at all, so long as it's not just a power-trip on the authority figure's behalf. As a child not too many years ago, if I did something wrong, dangerous or disrespectful, I would be smacked and sent to my room. I would actually be disciplined rather than having wrong doings swept under the rug. I think this and other areas of my upbringing are the main reasons for my excellent relationship with my parents, my manners, respect, personality and personal values. Some forms of 'physical disciplining' take it too far, but being sent to the naughty corner is hardly appropriate. Thanks for your excellent participation, Pro =D
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
12 Oct 07
Raven even though I made a main response already, I have to respond to you too. If it was me I would have handled it the Roughneck Dad way. First I'd unplug the computer. And for ever swear word at me or my sibling thereafter would be one more strike with a belt or kendo stick. Before everyone goes "OMG U Monstar!!" know that I'm not too serious about most of this. Yes I'd unplug the computer, but I know to scold and not do anything physical. Still, I've noticed more and more kids not being occasionally spanked because its "barbaric" and the kids being produced from household kids are like Byron or they are worse! They've got some sort of problem with discipline similar to that or worse. Why in the world do parents keep deluding themselves on these things!? Granted, I know its hard for parents to see their kids doing wrong, but only fools believe their kid can do no wrong. Okay Mal, thanks for sharing that story, because it does shed more light on Allen's mom. Now I have a little more to work with for analysis. I agree that his mom may need an "adjustment" and is not taking her own son seriously. And I'm not too thrilled with the mom making more selfish decisions instead of thinking about her son and his family. Many moms do see their children as perpetual kids, but very few take it to the extremes you described. I'd tell your boyfriend to stand up and have him get his mother to really recognize him as an adult and not always as just a kid. Plenty of children have to do that for both their moms and dads.
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@biwasaki (1745)
• United States
12 Oct 07
I absolutely support the way you and your boyfriend handled the situation. That boy is in obvious need of discipline and to be put back into his place. If my child had behaved in such an appalling manner I would hope that an adult nearby would speak up and correct that behavior immediately. Kudos to you and your boyfriend for standing up for yourselves.
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
12 Oct 07
Thank you so much, having support in our response and actions is definitely a relief. If I were her I also would have been thankful that someone had stepped in for me and actually disciplined my child, even if they were young themselves. If I had kids, I would be horrified if they acted in such a manner! Thanks again, and have a wonderful day!
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@biwasaki (1745)
• United States
12 Oct 07
Don't worry about it too much. If this woman can let her son disrespect someone else in their own home, she obviously has questionable parenting skills. Be proud of yourself and your boyfriend for having the guts to stand up for yourselves!
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@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
12 Oct 07
=] Thanks again, Biwasaki, we'll definitely just take it in our stride and know that we were the bigger people =]
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
12 Oct 07
16 hours ago. Man sorry I couldn't be here earlier. I was out like a light because of the long workweek and chores yesterday. Malyck you acted pretty much impeccably in that situation, so did your boyfriend. You can tell him *salute* and respect from me. You and him, you were absolutely right. The sad part is, I think "Byron" has wised up to how his parents react to him and to things around him. Long analysis short, I think Byron played you, your boyfriend and his siblings. He knows he's able to get away with things as long as he is not in range of his parents. Plus, its his word versus your words. Even if he's outnumbered, some parents will believe their child over strangers (especially if the parents have loose evidence such as barging in late on yelling). But look at it this way too. From her perspective, your boyfriend is yelling at her child. Despite the fact she didn't see the entire event, she reacted in a reasonable manner as well. Her kid is getting yelled at and she does not know what else, so she'll snap to his defense. I'm also betting she said the "you are child" remarks out of some anger and slight hysteria over what she perceived was happening. Byron probably knew from past experiences his ma would act like this and hence he could get away with being a knave. And from Allen's ma's perspective, she saw the same thing Byron's ma did hence her response. Though I probably would have yelled at the child too, I might have used a strict but not yelling tone of voice. It might have been possible the mothers would have listened to the two of you if there was a strict but not yelling response. Then again, the mothers might have still gone hysterical despite how civil your boyfriend could/did act. Setting that aside, Malyck you acted correctly. Its not polite to disrespect you and your boyfriend basically your family. Its not polite to just shove people aside either. Not only that, a 10 year old swearing at another child, at an adult and just swearing vulgarly in general, yes you are correct to resist that. You do indeed have the right to enforce rules and order in your own hose and to discipline others when they are not behaving, even adults! Remember that as well. That child was in definite need of discipline and unfortunately the mother doesn't see it. That's how some kids really work the system of parenting. The worst parts of this is, what that kid will grow up to be and I also feel for the other child Shaniya. If she's bright enough and yes cruel enough, she'll learn to dupe her parents just like Byron and I fear she'll grow up to become a backwards person like Byron. So much to cover too Malyck. I'll try responding to other responses as well since this is quite a situation. I hope you, Allen and the siblings are okay. I know you might be still shaken, still disturbed, but know that you were right. Also remember this situation too.
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@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
13 Oct 07
*hug* you're a great bloke. full of information, advice and knowledge, this one =] I'm apologising in advance for a response that won't be near worthy of your input! I totally agree with your comments about Byron - he totally has his mum wrapped around his little finger, probably his whole friggen hand - and she refused to see that he could do wrong, which is also her problem. Something that parents shouldn't have, because it does no good for the child's upbringing, constantly letting them get away with bad to increasingly worse behaviour because they choose to be ignorant. I'm a little confused, though, because I don't actually remember typing that Allen yelled (although I very well could have =P), he has a great tone when disciplining his own children that he maintained in this situation. Firm and strict, perhaps louder than conversational, but hardly a tempered yell, if you know what I mean... I was brought up to know that any form of disrespect, from anyone of any age or title, especially in your own house, is open to being disciplined. I have no problem confronting someone on their rudeness - no-one is above having manners and respect, and should wear them proudly when under my roof! Almost 1 day on, everyone but me seems to have recovered well. I know that Allen has basically been looking after his siblings since he was 10 himself, and is used to not getting any credit for it, due to his mum caring too much about what her friends think and often first choosing them over him, even though she's a good mum and good person outside of such situations. So I'm the only one who comes from a place, home and family where this behaviour wouldn't be tolerated and instead I would have been commended for my efforts, so it sickens me still to know that the whole thing happened. Thanks again for your involvement, I appreciate it very much! Mal.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
13 Oct 07
Its no problem Mal. I might have been wrong about the yelling part, but I was trying to state it from the parent's perspective as well. I do agree though you guys got disrespected and screwballed for doing the right thing and on top of that protecting a young child. Its pretty sad. And after seeing that other story about Allen's ma I can see it from another perspective as well. If she acts like that and chooses people like that to be around, it makes me question her choice of friends. I might be taking it too far, but its one thing I thought about. If needed, I'll try to participate more in the thread and field some other responses. For now, please take care and have a good weekend.
@ailema4ever (2668)
• Finland
12 Oct 07
Hey, Malyck, I think you and your boyfriend did the right thing. Your boyfriend tried to make the boy apologize. I don't get the mother's boy. This is insane indeed! I think she has some problems 'coz she attacked you verbally like that. I don't wonder that you're fuming. You and your boyfriend are old enough to understand right from wrong and to discipline other kids, especially disrespectful younger ones!!! Tsk tsk tsk...unbelievable!!! And why's your boyfriend's mother yelling at him? She should've tried to listen to what her son's saying. Oh dear...
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@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
12 Oct 07
Yeah, I'm done trying to work out why his own mother was angry at him. He was defending her youngest son and this home. I definitely think that we're old enough as well. Not only are we legally adults now, but adulthood is more so based on maturity for me than age, and thus we are certainly adults and had every right to do what we did. Thanks for your response Amelia! =D
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
12 Oct 07
If you want Aliema, read my main response on this subject. Hopefully its clear enough to point out the different aspects of this situation.
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• Finland
12 Oct 07
Yeah, you're right about maturity. Your boyfriend showed his maturity when he dealt with the boy calmly. You've also shown maturity but controlling your emotion. Oh well...some people are weird and you can't really understand them...hmmmhhh...I just can't imagine your boyfriend's feeling when his mother yelled at him like that...he must've felt hurt. But anyway...I admire both of you for having been good examples. ;-D
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
7 May 08
It's obvious that you two were the only adults on the scene. If you are such children why did the mother abandon her children and leave them in your care. Your boyfriends mother tow was wrong as any fool could see what was going on. Usually I don't listen to just one side of a story but thei kid was asking for a clip over the ear. Even if your b/f swore back at the brat it would have been simply what the kid could understand. I'd be fuming too and shaking. You've learned a good lesson here, both of you. 1) Don't get caught in such a position again. 2)Talk to your b/f's siblings and tell them how good they are and let them know they are betterr behaved than those others kids and how bad behaviour just upsets everyone and makes you an awful person. #) being an adult is about respect for others no matter how old they are. You weren't going to get through to that kid or his mother. Some people are like this. Don't associate with people like this and try and help your Mum to see some wisdom here as well. You did good, both of you.
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
7 May 08
=D Thank you so much, both for caring enough about an old discussion to respond and for your kind words and support =D Number 2 is something I agree with especially, it's been a really important thing that we have tried to (and hopefully succeeded in) instilling in the kids - how no-one thinks highly of people who are mean and rude etc. We eventually got sick of putting up with the Bf's mum's continual irresponsibility and palming the kids off to us, so we both moved back into my house, which has been a lot better. We'll still babysit, and have the kids over if they want to use the pool etc, but I was SO tired of being used, you know, and receiving no thanks for looking after and standing up for HER children. =D Thanks again, and have a lovely day!
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
12 Oct 07
Malyck, I would reply in brief. I feel whatever you did was the right thing. Children are needed to be disciplined and their mothers should have taken it in the right spirit. You did not commit any wrong. Please do not bother about others behaviour, their behaviour was not in order.
@cefaz_21 (2596)
• Philippines
30 Oct 07
Hi there! since this was 3 weeksa go..I hope you're a lot calmer now..:) and I agree on almost evryone's response that you and your boyfriend did the right thing.. and If I were on the same situation,I'll probably do the same thing. blessings!
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
12 Oct 07
I think the boys needs to be disciplined but he is not getting it from the proper person... based on the reaction of the mother... if he can talk to other people like that... i cannot imagine how that 10 year old boy talks to his own mother... I think it would also be wise not to invite them again in the house because those children might influence the siblings of your boyfriend...
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
12 Oct 07
That's exactly right, I can't imagine the way he must speak to her at home! I certainly won't be inviting them over - we didn't this time either, they just arrived unannounced and reeked havok! Terrible, intolerable behaviour.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
12 Oct 07
Aseret. He may indeed be abusive toward his own mother. Or he could just know how to dupe his own mother. I've seen it and read plenty of cases that point to something like that. I must second Seret's last sentence! Do not let them in the house and yes they could influence your siblings in a very negative manner. I feel sorry for the other little sister though, she could easily become as bad or worse than the boy.
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@kodie420 (872)
• Canada
12 Oct 07
Although I agree with the way your boyfriend handled it you do have to remember one thing you guys are living in his parents house and those are his parents friends kids. I guess it depends how you look at it though because maybe in the eyes of the parents it was not your place to say anything because it wasn't your house or kids then again on the flip side they should have been out supervising their own kids then it wouldn't have happen. It really sucks living in someone else's house especially family because you will constantly be treated like this because that's how these people have always and will always remember you as. I personally think you guys really didn't do anything wrong but if I was you guys and you want your relationship to work and last then here's a word of advice from someone who was in the same spot as you guys, just move out. I was happier having money tight in my own place then having to walk on egg shells in a relatives house. No matter what you guys pick to do all I got to say to yous is good luck and hope everything eventually works out for you.
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
13 Oct 07
I totally agree - I can't wait to move out, however we have two more years of school in this town, so we're stuck here, although we've been talking about moving in to the flat out the back of my house, which isn't too far away (and is closer to our school). The thing is, Allen has been looking after these kids since he was about 10 years old himself, so he hasn't really been seen as a 'child' by his mum and has always been responsible and called upon, so there is no reason for her to revert to seeing him as a child just to look good to her friend. It just sucks at the moment, as Allen's mum is reluctant to let him move with me because then she won't have her resident chef and cleaner (me) and babysitter (him). Lol... Thanks for your response, and your wishes for our future =]
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• United States
12 Oct 07
Hi Malyck, After reading your story and all the responses given to you I must say that you are all correct. That women and her child need to be put in her place. Sounds like a job for "super Nanny" or what ever taht brittish girls name is pm TV. I can't stand parents who allow their children to act like that. I would have dragged that child to the kitchen and stuck a bar of soap in his mouth and told him "Dirty mouths need to be washed!" I don't put up with that kind of behavior. As for the mother threatning your b/f with the police, It sounds like she may be one of those mothers who thinks her kid is never to blame. Also it sounded like she jumped and told your b/f to get away from him pretty quickly, which makes me wonder if there is abuse happening in that family (not yours, hers). If a husband or father was abusive, she may be quick to take her son's side and say she'll call the police. That is how it sounded to me. I wouldn't invite them over again and as for your b/f's mom, I'd set her straight and let her know that she should be more concerned with how her kids were treated than with what her friend thinks. You two did everything just right! Don't worry about it and if you ever see them again, ignore them and refuse to watch over her children. Good luck!
• Canada
12 Oct 07
Wow. I would have turned off the computer at the childs first rebuttle and flipped him out of the chair. I would have definately went to his mother immediately and told her that her child is swearing in my house and I will put him outside until they are finished chatting it up. Age doesn't matter. The kid is rude. I don't like rude kids in my house. The kid only acts that way because he knows he can get away with it. I think your mother should have heard you and your boyfriend out. I do not think you were entirely wrong. Yelling really doesn't solve anything. (neither does flipping him out of the chair) I can totally relate. I have a cousin who my family was watchin. Maybe 10 at the time. When he heard her voice he peeeed in my couch! I would have been arrested if I handled it. What does his mom do? Slap him on the hand...once and says NO.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
12 Oct 07
I couldn't agree more. And yes if its a rude kid or adult I will respond. If they continue to be rude or do something very foolish, I'm not opposed to using physical force. Think I'm some monster for doing it, you're wrong! Do you know how hard it is just to even stand up and scold kids and family members?! At least for me there is a part that hurts inside. Think of how hard it is to have to take real physical or further measures! I'm sorry but I'm not gonna tolerate people being rude to me in my house and heavens help you if you try anything to people I care about, in or out of the house.
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@meanangel (167)
• United States
12 Oct 07
You were in the right. If the parents did not aprove of the way their kids were being watched then they should have been watching them. To be disrespected in your own home is never cool and your boyfriends mother was wrong for taking their side and not yours. I suggest the next time these people come around you and your boyfriend take his brother and sister out for a while to limit the time spent with the other boy.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
10 May 08
I believe you were right in what you did. I know it is no consolation, but that child and his mother will see this in about 20 years when she is visiting him in prison........
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
10 May 08
Thank you Laglen =) I agree with you on that future scenario, and that's what makes it so sad - that his parent/s did him the disservice of no boundaries or discipline in his early childhood. It will be a miracle, I think if he turns out well, when he is allowed to get his way with no negative consequences even when he's clearly in the wrong... Oh well... Thanks for your response =)
@subha12 (18441)
• India
12 May 08
i think its the problem with some people who act like this. they are doing no good to their children. but they seem not to understand this. actually they are wrong in making their childen behave properly. tehy should knowe that they are in no way entitled to behave badly with others when the fault is with their own children. In turn they are themselves responsible.
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
12 May 08
I agree - I think that both the parents and the misbehaving child are responsible, the parents first and foremost for obviously not teaching them manners and respect. Thank you for your response =)
• United States
11 May 08
The roof under which this incident took place was yours. You pay the bills. The computer in question belongs to your boyfriend. You had every right to set your space rules in your space.
• United States
12 May 08
Your very welcome!
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
11 May 08
Thanks Crafty =) That's how I feel - and those rules and us as people need to be respected and listened to. Some people just don't have any sort of decency, I suppose. Have a great day! =D
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@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
12 May 08
=D Truer words were never uttered. lol. Luckily I don't mind so much not having the respect of those who clearly don't respect themselves either, but thanks so much for the support =)
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@ellie333 (21016)
11 May 08
100% with you and your boyfriend on this one. Nobody should be spoken to like that in their own home by anyone especially a child but considering the mothers attitude and the way she also spoke and had no manners it is hardly surprising the child acts in this way. I am sure once your boyfriends mum had calmed down and the situation explained she would be on your side too. The one who was acting like a child in this situation was the naughty disrespectful little boys mum herself. Silly woman. Ellie :D
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
12 May 08
=D I read it as insecurities anyway - we're on the same page =) Haha, I don't mind, I think issues like this are always valid even if they happened a long time ago to me, it's happening all the time to other people. Yeah, it's great to be in our own place, and to now be able to have Mia =D
@ellie333 (21016)
12 May 08
I always knew I was little bit outdatedjust realised this was started 8 months ago! Even so your boyfriends mother is being nice to the wrong people, she obviously has underlying securites but she really shouldn't be treating her OR YOU in this way. Glad you are in own place now. Ellie :D
@ellie333 (21016)
12 May 08
ooops that was supposed read insecurities!
@Elixiress (3878)
10 May 08
I think that you's were in the right and she was in the wrong. What type of parent would promote their young boy using language like that and you were only trying to tell him it was wrong and trying to make him see the error of his way so that he would grow to be a nice person. It isn't as though you's hit him or anything, because that would be wrong. Yes, your boyfriend shouted by the sounds of it, but that is only because he wouldn't listen to reason in the first place.
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
11 May 08
They updated about 20 minutes after I posted that response - I was getting a little worried =P I never told them when I did something wrong outside of the house/away from them, but most of the time they found out anyway =P It took me a good few years to become a good liar. =)
@Elixiress (3878)
10 May 08
I agree. I was grounded and shouted at for doing wrong, I knew what was right and wrong, but the thing is that if I did something that I thought they would deem wrong then I didn't tell them and it kind of made us more distant. It says that my earnings have been updated yet they haven't changed and I have posted.
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
10 May 08
=D Thanks for your support, even now so long after it happened, I think about it a lot, and it's nice to know people still agree with us on the matter =) I would have yelled too, as far as I'm concerned, being yelled at for your wrongs is far better than getting your way and growing up without any discipline or boundaries, you know? I got smacked, yelled at, grounded and sent to my room on many an occasion throughout my childhood and it only bettered me as a person, and I respect my parents so much for not being too worried about losing my friendship to let me run amok. Especially in someone else's house! =D This is the longest it's taken for earnings to update in ages, to get off topic =P
@phoenix25 (1541)
• United States
7 May 08
It sounds like that lady is dumb and her son needs a swift kick in the pants. I hate it when kids do things like that when they're parents aren't around, only to play the sympathy card when mom or dad shows up. I don't think your brother was wrong. He might have handled it a little better, though. If it was me, I would have knocked on mom's bedroom door and let the lady know what her son just said. I still would have told that lady what her son said to the boy so she knew why he was speaking like that to hime. I wouldn't worry about it. Stupid people like that can't be helped.
@Malyck (3425)
• Australia
7 May 08
I agree they can't be helped, and the funny thing is, if my boyfriend HAD knocked on the door, I would bet they would have told him to bugger off and deal with it themselves. So frustrating. Thanks for your response =D