What is the biggest bone of contention between genders?
By Amy
@artemis432 (7474)
Abernathy, Texas
8 responses
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
16 Oct 07
Power. Just look at the current gender debate. Its not about freedom, its not about equality, its about power. Its also about making one gender more equal than the other (props to anyone who gets where that statement is from). Depending on where you are, there is also a strong contention point when it comes to relationships and marriage (and with the latter divorce). Things have become quite horrific but not many people see it. And once again, its all about power its all about my first point.
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
17 Oct 07
In many ways, and examples, I think you're right. Do you think it some deep seated memories in women of a patriarchial past, and in men memory of a matriarchial - I know that sounds like I have it backwards - but what if its rebellion.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
17 Oct 07
No no Arte, I don't think that was backwards at all. I also encourage outward thinking, so worry not :)
You could be very well correct about a rebellion or a revolution going on. A few are, depending on the perspective. On the inside of some societies men are seeing how reduced, criticized, unappreciated they are, and they want some rectification. In other cultures its women seeing this and wanting more for themselves, in a similar manner. More and more people are either joining in, witnessing it, or they fear what could possibly happen and have made moves to try and stop it.
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
17 Oct 07
Hey pro, according to Suspensful, your answer makes you a feminist!
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
17 Oct 07
In my view the biggest bone of contention in all relationships is people's inability TO GET OVER THEMSELVES and accept people for who they are. In my work as a journalist, reporter, life coach and group leader conflicts between men and woman do have a base in 'power struggles' for sure. I also read your response about ancient archetypes that resonate into our current society. The fact that most references to Goddess Deities have been removed from religious frameworks is a big clue that the men are not willing to have woman as equal partners. So no argument on that one.
However, as I mentioned above the most difficult thing for most people to learn is to accept and honor differences...and men and women are different and thankfully so!LOL Women say they are in love but admit to their gal-pals that they will 'change him' into her own image of the perfect mate after they are married.
Hellllooo...the best way to make an enemy is to try and change someone. In my view the inability to accept and work through differences on either side is the biggest bone of contention between the genders...and believe me in the work we do we've had lots of opportunities to develop this point of view. Couple counseling is just one dimension to what we do...but the dynamics with the intransigent polarizing views that men and woman have of each other happens in other areas of life as well.
Another interesting topic...you sure do keep them coming. Good job...good site!
Thanks my friend..
Raia
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
17 Oct 07
I agree we do that it is an unwillingness to work through and celebrate differences that separates us. Unless the behaviour of the other is very unhealthy for you and nothing changes or vice-versa. I love that this is what you do. No suprise though that you guys strengthen connections for a living. What a light bringer you are!
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
17 Oct 07
Oh my goodness...what a difficult thing to go through...but it isn't the first time I've heard stories like that with the work we do. My hubby and are quite different in some ways...alike in others...just enough to keep our work and professional lives interesting and thriving!
In my view everyone is unique and that is what makes life so challenging...and rewarding. They say the best way to lead is by example...and that can ofter precipitate more changes that re-making someone over into our image. Hope your friend learned to get over it...and find out who his authentic self is and life from that place rather than a poor imitation of who he used to be.
Thanks for your encouraging comments...much appreciated!
Raia
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
17 Oct 07
Raia! Excellent post! Keep it up. I definitely agree with the women trying to change guys, its the worse thing. Funny thing I saw with my relationship readings, is one woman who changed this bad rocker into a young professional (and on top of that a completely different person; vegetarianism, no long hair, no beard, 9-5 job, no band). She then got bored of him and later shacked up with one of the rockers bandmates. I can just guess what happened next -_-
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@peppy510 (25)
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23 Oct 07
hey remember me u called me a feminist good that you gave me an honest answer but believe me i am not I just wanted to give my opinion i think you got it the other way i am not trying to tell that its always men that are wrong women also are wrong you cannot clap with one hand all i know is don't try controlling eachother try and understand eachother A problem is not important in life but how u solve it is important and how u see eachother is not important but how you look at different things together is important I have a son and a daughter sometimes they try to dominate eachother i just tell them to do their work and don't try to pick on eachother and that solves the problem
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@rebelann (113001)
• El Paso, Texas
29 May 20
Men and women see things differently from one another. It's been proven that women tend to think in a more nurturing way where as men think in terms of being in control, it does vary depending on the personality of each individual but that seems to be more or less the norm.
@peppy510 (25)
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21 Oct 07
thank you for responding that i am a feminist but let me tell you that i am not i was just trying to tell that if people don't interefere with eachothers work and don't try and control eachother then the problems will be solved i didn't mean it for men only it is for women also men have to work and women have to nurture and care and if we do this i think there should be no problem
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@rebelann (113001)
• El Paso, Texas
29 May 20
There's nothing wrong with being a feminist as long as it isn't to an extreme and it doesn't hurt anyone else. I am one, I have lived alone for 50 years and have always had to support myself without the help of a man.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Oct 07
It is not about who wants to be top dog, whether man or woman. Only feminists think that way, nor whether to lead or follow, or whether the man should rule outside and the woman should rule the household. The biggest are natural household things, such as he thinks eating meat and potatoes makes one healthy, while she thinks veggies, fruits, and salads are healthy and not as costly. The other things are the toilet seat that he wants up while she wants down. (how much farther do you have to bend if you are in a hurry?) the toilet paper sheets according to man must go over, while under according to woman. He squeezes the toothpaste in the middle, while she squeezes at the end. He uses four pots while she uses one in cooking.
I do not know how long any of this has gone on.
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
17 Oct 07
You're right, men have to bend if we keep the seat down, and we have to bend if they keep the sewat up. There are some men they do think meat and potatoes (my fav!)and women who think veggies, fruits and salads are healthy. Some women (I have to force myself to, my instinct is to squeeze from the middle certainly) squeeze the toothpaste at the end, some men (none that I know though) squeeze from the middle. I can't write more
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
17 Oct 07
Sorry, sometimes the baby presses a few keys and all of sudden the keyboard is messed up. My husband knows how to mess with it to make it work but he's at work 'till 12 am. I'll ask him tomm afternoon before work!
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
17 Oct 07
Each one thinks that he/she is wiser than the other gender.
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
22 Oct 07
This might be so. Who do you think is the wiser gender?
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
17 Oct 07
According to suspensful this makes you a feminist, what do you think?
@vicki2876 (5636)
• Canada
17 Oct 07
I think it is because men are from mars and woman are.... well, better. Just kidding.
If we never had conflict we wouldn't get any work done, we would be to busy lovin' LOL
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