Sorry but the Terrorist are Islamic
By gewcew23
@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
June 24, 2008 3:59pm CST
Muneer Fareed, head of the Islamic Society of North America, is "demanding" that Sen. John McCain stop using the word "Islamic" to describe terrorists over in Iraq. Sorry did I miss something, did all of the suicede bomber convert to another religion and I did not know about it? Muneer Fareed insists that McCain (and all others) just call Islamic terrorists "criminals". "That is more acceptable to the Muslim community." Once again did I miss something hear. When did Muslims start caring about other people's fellings? Is it just a one way street with this people. When are we going to stand up to these people, and say start rescepting our way of life.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
24 Jun 08
Pretending to have their feelings hurt and seeking sympathy is all just a part of the game plan, IMHO. I'd ignore Muneer Fareed.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
24 Jun 08
This is an iffy discussion for me because my husband is Muslim. The Islamics who blow up buildings are extremists as much as Christians who blow up abortion clinics are extremists. I am pro-life. However, Christians, of which I am one, would rather not have people who blow up abortion clinics called Christians because it is as if the religion indentifies what that person did. Since many of the people who blow up abortion clinics do so in the name of God, they say the person is a Christian. It would be better to call that person a Christian Extremist. Fareed does not want Islam Extremists to be associated with other Islamics who want peace. If we call Muslims who blow up buildings, criminals then we need to do the same with Christians who blow up abortion clinics. Islamic Extremists is acceptable to me as is Christian Extremist. However, just Islamics or just Christians doesn't quite cut it, simply because they take their beliefs from the Koran or Bible, even if they do distort it.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Sham, I never said it was....just ask my husband. He loves his sweet little Christian wife. :)
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Yestheypayme2dothis, you truly surprise me at times. This is the fact I am trying to make here. Islam is not synonymous with terrorism!
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
24 Jun 08
Great post. Of course you can identify most terrorists with Islam as most terrorists identify themselves with Islam. It is absurd to use political correctness to censor the truth just to be cute. Truth is, the people blowing things up are Muslims. Period.
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Great, one attack in the name of Christianity. How many muslims blow themselves up per day? yeah......
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jun 08
The number is meager in comparison to the number of people, historically, who have been slaughtered in the name of CHRISTIANITY!
The Native American
The African
The Aztec
Now Muslim
YES there are Islamic extremists. Yes there are terrorists. But the real acts of terrorism aren't reported for us to see on CNN. Right now we (US) are the biggest terrorists in the world but the news won't tell that story because our brand of "terrorism" is justified. All they show you is Islam and terrorism as if they are one and the same. Which makes us racists then and if we are motivated by racism then how can we be in the right?
@insaneduck9 (836)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Excellent Post!
All i have to say is, just because certain terrorists are Islamic, it's not good to judge the entire religion is bad. Islam is actually against violence and now other Islamic person other than the terrorists(less than 100 people) have caused destruction.
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@siddiqali (632)
• India
25 Jun 08
Let Me Tell you that Islam dont teach terrorism.Islam teaches to have mercy on people.The very first surath of the Holy Quran "Have mercy on the people and you will be mercied on the day of judgement."And Further the person who expands terrorism has no religion in the real means whether he tell him that he is a muslim.Meaning of Islam is not terrorism.The person who does terrorist activities is not a muslim.He has no religion.
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@HawaiiGopher (1009)
• Belgium
26 Jun 08
The Bible says that it's okay to stone disobedient children. See the connection here? It's all about interpretation.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
25 Jun 08
It also says to kill the infidel or did those pages get stuck together in your quran? It says to try to convert them but if they refuse then kill them! Sounds real peacful to me!
@paroloza (140)
• United States
25 Jun 08
These people, as you call them, are American citizens. Once upon a time the United States were viewed upon as the very country were people of different origins, different creeds and different opinions coud live together in respect and tolerance. The world hopes that the nation returns to these principles, the only true "American Way of Life".
The only thing that American Muslims have in common with Muslim terrorists, is the label of "Islamic" -as much as all Catholics share the label "Catholic" with the Irish IRA terrorists-, and it is very comprensible that they call our attention to the fact that their faith, Islam, is very different from the one the terrorists practice.
When Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, Japanese living all over the United States where discriminated and made to suffer, because of their origin, no matter how good a citizen they might have been. Now, people of Arab ascendence or connected with Islam faith experience the same.
Christians are commissioned by God to be peacemakers, to reconcile, to pardon and even to love the enemy. That would arouse so much more respect for Christianity and the United States.
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@lissavalerian (247)
• United States
25 Jun 08
oh, and some are fighting for nationalistic causes, not religious causes. Saddam was secular if you recall.
@WhatsHerName (2716)
• United States
27 Jun 08
We need a strong leader who will identify our enemy and go after it. If Senator McCain backs down on this issue I don't know who I will vote for and chalk up another victory for the politically correct bunch. This is my main internet in the race, if we are forced into Islamism, nothing else will matter.
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5629
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
25 Jun 08
I'd suggest they be called Islamic extremists because not all Muslims support terrorism. In fact, most don't. Language is very powerful and we do need to look at how we use it.
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
25 Jun 08
too many folks in the usa want to hide there heads in the saND and pretend life is just roie when it isnt !Yes ALL muslims are not terrorists however most terrorists are muslims
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@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
26 Jun 08
..^_^
regarding what i have read on the above responses..
let us start with who is the real Christian..
Christian - means Christ like.. so they follow what is the teachings of Christ which is in the Bible.. did Christ teach to blow up anything??
or those "Christian" are professing Christian..
I can't hold it.. ^_^
you know The Roman Catholics are calling themselves Christians.. but did they follow what Christ teachings..?? obviously not.. what they follow is the Pope, the priest to sum it up they are referring to their book, called the Roman Catholicism.. yet they said it is from the Bible, yes some.. but most of them Contradict the Bible..
We Born-again Christian (the main part is "Salvation" not Religion).. means to live a new life and live with Christ.. thats what Christian is..
We are trusting God for that.. coz this world is Temporary as what the Bible said.. and their will be no peace here on earth as what on his Word have said.. ^_^
regarding the Islam.. have no comment.. let the will of God be done..
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@simsunil (98)
• India
26 Jun 08
I agreed with u gewcew, these people who attack others...all are criminals and all are muslims.. why don't these people think of others.. all people have the right to live.why they consider themself as god who has the right to take life of others.. In everypart of the world noe ..all terrorists are muslims..its high point now these should ..live and let live others..
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@twistershot (736)
• India
26 Jun 08
Yes it's 100% right, all over the world terrorist blasts are done by islamic persons, behind the islamic they picked up some other relegious poor people and forced them to do this activities for the sake of money. I don't know when will this stop all the bad things.
@luciusf0729 (2)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Only the arrogance of a white American would say that all terrorists are Islamic. Not all terrorist are Islamic, look at the homegrown terrorists here in the US. Remember the bombing in Oklahoma City? It was done by a white American. Your initial statement is only one of the reasons people from other countries HATE Americans.
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@Cindycrocker (209)
• United States
1 Jul 08
I am so glad to hear someone other than myself say the same thing ! I am so tired of them always wanting to be "politically correct" not hurting anyone's feelings Americans. They don't want us to be able to do things the way they were meant to be when our country was founded.
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@aardvarkboy (12)
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1 Jul 08
Who are the terrorists then. The deluded handful of religious zealots trickling into Europe and taking a few lives in the name of the Arabs and the Muslims or the full scale armies that have marche into Arabia as a direct backlash of the actions of a few lunatics. Allow me to simplify this argument into American terms. That is like me killing your entire family because I disagreed with the O.J. Simpson verdict. You may feel that your family have absolutely nothing to do with O.J. but as a foreign national I, for the sake of this argument, blame America as a whole for the courts mistake and decide to punish anybody who falls into the category of American.
Live and let live
:-)
@champion_18 (113)
• India
25 Jun 08
gewcew23 their is no such thing as Islam= terrorism.Any form of terrorism is generated by feeling of separatism.My observation is a good part of Islamic community still studies in Islamic religious schools where they learn Islam from very beginning and every individual is bound to form their opinion unfortunately quite a few of these get in touch of extremist who spread terror in name of religion and these people build a very wrong image of right and wrong because of the wrong influence, it is these who end up becoming terrorist.Such scenarios can be formed easily and they do in fact, one of reason you will find people spreading terror in name of religion(while doing everything what their religion totally dose not permit) from every religion except maybe Buddhism because of its simplicity and clarity of what lord Buddha stood for.
The fact that a lot of people still go around associating Islam with terrorism has aggravated things and feeling of separatism, which in turn has made them even more vulnerable target to bad influence because religion is a very touch subject.Islam is reality means total devotion to god which is the basic thing almost every religion says.Jihad dose not mean war in name of religion it actually means struggle in life.
And no I do not follow Islam, I am a Hindu by birth and atheist by choice and I always form an opinion after in depth research.
@champion_18 (113)
• India
25 Jun 08
Additionally I forgot to mention terrorists have no religion because no religion permits merciless killing of the masses.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
25 Jun 08
If I were a Muslim I'd be offended to have someone seem to take for granted that all Muslims are automatically terrorists or extremists because they're not, no more than all Christians are extremists such as those who bomb abortion clinics or murder doctors and receptionists at these clinics. You say "When did Muslims start caring about other people's feelings?" what if that same question were asked, with Christian replacing Muslim? I doubt you, as someone who isn't a criminal or a fanatic or an extremist, would like that. I know all the 9/11 terrorists were Muslims and most of the terrorists that have now come to Iraq are also although some are "converts" just as some who have lived their entire life in the U.S. have converted to Islam. There are many Arab Americans here who have lived here their whole lives and have done nothing wrong and I'm sure they have gone through enough persecution and harassment already. We don't like that the extremists hate us and want to kill us just because of what we are and where and how we live and I'm sure they feel the same ones, the good and decent people, I mean, which do exist.
Annie
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Annie,
If they are converted to Islam, then doesn't that make them muslim? That is what they have converted to, the muslim faith, right? So to say that some are converts is to actually say the same thing, that they are infact Islamic muslims!
I have to wonder though, seriously not sarcasm, and maybe you or someone else could answer this for me; If all of the muslims we have here in America that are from their country (Iraq, Iran, Syria etc)decided to go back to their country, would they be considered infidels and be hunted and killed for betrayal of their god and religion?
The reason I ask is because that is what is being insinuated in Iraq now that the people of Iraq can't embrace democracy and Islam at the same time.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jun 08
Alright the issue here is this. Yes maybe there are terrorists who are Islamic, but all people of Islamic faith are not terrorists! It's that simple without argument! I mean our President has committed acts of terrorism and no one is persecuting his religion! Timothy McVeigh wasn't a Muslim and no one mentioned his religion when they brought his case up. There are muslim all around you as it is the worlds largest religion but they are not all terrorists. Muslim does not mean terrorist!
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jun 08
What terrorists in Iraq? There are none. There are no reports of any Iraqi terrorists. We went into Iraq looking for weapons that never existed, therefore making it unnecessary. Bin Laden was not in Iraq. Then Sadaam was assassinated and we implement a new government for Iraq. What terrorists in Iraq are you speaking of?
@biobio55 (281)
• Indonesia
25 Jun 08
LOL, this is a one funny, interesting, controversial, and entertaining discussion. I think you will get high number of responds. Congratulation. This is going to be a funny debate. Non muslim will insist that terorist are islam, and muslim will insist that terorist are not islam. Like usual, the muslim will claim that terorists are not islam but they are extremist. Too bad, terorists bombed so many places and claimed that it is in the name of allah or islam. No one will win this debate, everybody just running in circle.
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@taqinaka (429)
• Malaysia
25 Jun 08
I,as a Muslim,respect your opinion,but the truth is not all Muslims are terrorist.That's why those terrorist are called EXTREMISTS.They took a hadith or verse from the Quran,and spin the meaning.
Yes,in Quran,there are verse saying that we Muslim can go to war,but ONLY if we are attacked or the enemy killed innocent muslims and etc.
Those terrorist,like Al-Qaida who killed innocent people,i wont admit they are Islam,because Islam promote peace.
And,eventhough I respect your opinion of us Muslims,i really dont think Muhammad Ali or Yussof Islam is Osama bin Laden's BFF.
@darksome (24)
• United States
28 Jun 08
I definitely agree with Shamsta...why are people surprised at the number of people being killed by Islamic extremists...we have Christian extremists in the United States and I don't see anyone complaining...you know your President Bush, he is an extremist, he takes his religion so literally that he feels an obligation to kill for the sake of it...totally absurd...he probably has killed half of the population of Iraq when he is still supposedly hunting Osama...what in the world is he bombing?! Innocent people damn it! And people don't tell me that the Iraqi people in Iraq are terrorists...they are freedom fighters for christ $%^#*^& sakes! How would you like it if a foreign country invaded your homeland, raped your women, killed your men and children...you would fight in the name of your homaland! Wouldn't you?! What's so different from what the Iraqi people are doing...don't blame it on Muslim...Christianity has always been the source of all wars...don't believe me? Look it up !
@WhatsHerName (2716)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Let me guess, you're a Muslim defending the lol, "religion of peace".
We feel the "peace" brother...