To each His/Her own!
By JTerrasi
@JTerrasi (199)
United States
July 19, 2008 6:03pm CST
Ok, I use to work at a nation wide store/donation center. There was a guy there who WAS a guy but dressed as a woman. Hair, makeup, nail polish the whole nine yards. He want by the name 'Marie'. Actually he was a really nice guy.
I went into the ladies room one day and heard someone come in. It was 'Marie'!! OMG...I totally freaked. I sat there until he finished and then left. I really felt that was the wrong place for him to be.
I am not being judgemental, but because you dress like a woman doesn't make you one. Right? I was angry but never said anything to him. Soooooo, was I over reacting? Ladies room or Men's room for Marie??
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13 responses
@kingcrapper (1536)
• United States
20 Jul 08
I know I will have alot of liberals jumping on me for saying this, but I personally think this person is a freak and they need to get their head examined. It is fine to say 'I'm ok-you're ok' but let's open up the conversation: when your 'ok' which restroom should you use? Let's open the conversation even wider: if everyone is 'ok' then where is the line drawn at 'not ok'- or isn't there such a thing?
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@kareng (59167)
• United States
20 Jul 08
I can see how you freaked out. I would have too! I bet the guys threw him out of the men's room!! haha Maybe you ladies could get together and address this situation with the management? I think Marie needs his/her own bathroom. That would make everyone happy. Otherwise, I don't see a solution to this problem. However, the men should be able to handle this a lot better than the women. I still think the management needs to make the call. Are they even aware of the situation? Hope this gets resolved soon and to your liking :)
@Cinnamoncandy78 (54)
• United States
20 Jul 08
I think if he needs to go he needs to go to the men's facility and if he doesn't want to get beat up he should dress like a man and not a woman.. maybe the men wouldn't beat him up..maybe the men would just kind of look at him strange. I saw a man the other week and he was wearing a dress and he looked so funny because he was a bearded man and not trying to look female. I tried not to laugh until he was out of my line of sight.
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
20 Jul 08
Hi my friend. This is hard to decide what is right and wrong, each side has legitimate arguments. Since there are many transgender people and many who are in the process of going through gender re-assignment they should have a third bathroom - even if there is just one toilet in there so no one is offended and this would avoid a lot of problems. That third rest room can be called "Unisex". Until that is done then I would say for Marie to use either the men's room or women's rest room ALONE by having someone stand outside until Marie is finished. This is just my opinion.
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@JTerrasi (199)
• United States
20 Jul 08
Thank you Howard. Some places have Family Restrooms, maybe this could be another option. It has one potty, sink and is a little larger than normal size home bathroom. I guess it is really meant for a mother and kids.
Have a great weekend!
Janet
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@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
20 Jul 08
i am a man, and i think your reaction is natural. it is not okay to see "marie" there. for it is not okay for me too to see a lesbian inside the mens room. if you ask lesbians they will tell you that they still go to ladies room to pee. for that is the place for them. i know that some gay people get humiliated in the mens room but it is not nice to see them inside the ladies room for no matter how they dress they will still pee standing up. i am not against lesbians and gay people i have a lot of friends like that and have some relatives who are like that too, but this is only my opinion.
@tamarafireheart (15384)
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20 Jul 08
Hello JTerrasi,
That must be awful for you, I really can't understand why they do that, he should have to the gents can he be reported? you just have to let it go smetimes.
Tamara
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@JoyfulOne (6232)
• United States
20 Jul 08
While it is kind of freaky (to say the least lol) I would think that if he used the men's room he'd probably get beat up or something. Maybe he's in the process of a change operation, and if that would be true he'd have to sit instead of stand. While it would freak me out some, I'd also just stay in the stall until he/she left. At least in the ladies room every stall has doors, unlike the men's room. I don't think you're over-reacting, it's an odd situation for sure. It sounds like 'Marie' shops there frequently, so maybe it's up to your store manager to say something privately to him, or ask him to wait until nobody's in the ladies room before he saunters in there. (Then she, or another employee, could keep an eye on the door to make sure no other ladies go in until he's through.) As much as cross genders confuse people, it is their choice in how to live the way they feel is right. Still, just because he's a cross-dresser doesn't necessarily mean he's a pervert (hopefully anyways.) I still think that alerting the other employees or your boss would be a good idea just to stay with a safety first feeling. Maybe you could have him place an 'out of use' sign on the door handle when he goes in, and remove it when he comes out. If I was shopping there and it happened to me, I think I would definitely say something to the manager.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
20 Jul 08
I agree with you. Take off the make up and clothes and he is still a man...not a woman. I am all ok with cross dressers..see them all the time but they need to go into the right bathroom. If we accept this then there will be some pervert cross dressing just to get into the girls bathroom. Little girls also use these bathrooms. I would have said something to him. Why not? he obviously isn't embarrassed because he is out in public. I would not hesitate to say something to him. You are right on this one in my opinion except that you should have spoken up.
@Crimson888 (72)
• Singapore
20 Jul 08
Actually for me, it was for wrong of him to enter the ladies beacause as what you had mentioned, he may be dressed up as a ladies but in fact, he is still a man!!! How could a man enter a ladies room!! I think all women would be angry to see a guy entering a ladies room... He could be peeping at the ladies in the ladies room because who knows what he is up to...
From my point of view, he should go to the men's room because he must respect the ladies in the ladies room...
I think you are not over reacting and maybe you could speak to the security at your workplace about it... Maybe give him a warning not to do it again because it is really too much...
@Amberina (1541)
• United States
20 Jul 08
I think he should use the mens room, he has man parts. If it was turned around and a manly looking woman walked in the mens room to use the toilet the men would raise a real big stink about it.
Another idea is they could start making a third bathroom for them, it could have both urinals and toilets. No offense to anyone but at least that way no one would be put out of place that way.
@carolluvyou (460)
• United States
20 Jul 08
Its wrong because its like invading womens privacy so Marie belongs in the Mens room.... Thats why on the front of restrooms one says mens and one say womens.. and he was aparently born with male genitials and should use a mens bathroom...
@blackmantra_x (2732)
• Philippines
20 Jul 08
good day...Man whether (dressed as a female) should use the men's room and the woman whether (dressed as a male) should use the women's room.
@Cinnamoncandy78 (54)
• United States
20 Jul 08
Ewww! that's nasty! This guy Marie needs to decide which kind of pluming he wants and dress accordingly to go into the men's room. I didn't say that right... what I mean is if he's a guy with guy stuff he needs to go into the men's room and not in a woman's bathroom. If he is afraid of being beaten up by men in the men's room he shouldn't wear the dress in the first place. That's just sick. Maybe I'm just not getting around much, but I find a guy dressing up like a queen is just out there.