Well, it happened again. Mother forgets her baby in the back seat

@dragon54u (31634)
United States
August 21, 2008 7:15am CST
When she got into her van after work yesterday in Cincinnati, the mother noticed her 11 month old baby in the back seat, dead from being in the car all day when the temps reached 90 degrees. What should be done with people like this? How in the world do you not know where your child is?! Should we demand they be sterilized? Put them in jail? Force them into therapy? Forgive me if I sound angry, but I am. When I was raising my children, they were (and still are) the most precious people in the world to me and I always knew where they were and what they were doing. I made sure they were ok at all times. How do you forget your child is in the car?!
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@Wizzywig (7847)
21 Aug 08
I confess to having once absent-mindedly rocked a frozen chicken in the supermarket trolley whilst my son was outside with his dad during my first fortnight of motherhood but to forget that your child whom you've had for 11months is sat in a vehicle all day?? You would think that, EVEN if she had 'forgotten' the child was in the van as she got out that she would have given him a moments thought at some point during the day and 'remembered' she'd left him there????????????
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Aug 08
I've known moms who can work all day and not give much thought to their kids because they are in a daycare that they trust or in school. That's foreign to me. My sons are clear across the country and grown but I think of them several times a day. A chicken?! That's funny, but you knew your baby was safe and were reacting as you usually would if you'd had him. That mental image is just priceless!
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@Wizzywig (7847)
21 Aug 08
Yes, my sons are grown and living away but I dont go long without thinking about them (and I hardly ever think of that chicken... or the look on peoples faces when I asked it if it was alright )
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• United States
21 Aug 08
LOL I had to comment, that's just great... but like someone else said, you knew your baby was safe and were so into Mommy mode that you didn't think twice about the chicken. lol, I'm still giggling :)
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• Bahamas
21 Aug 08
Hi dragon! How anyone could forget their child in a car is amazing to me. You would have to be pretty absent minded is my opinion. Everytime i hear of this happening i ask myself, are they crazy? While i hate to judge, i think they should be prosecuted, i dont believe there is any excuse for leaving your child in a car for hours. I always check up on my kids when they are not with me, so maybe one phone call could have alerted them to the whereabouts of their kids. This is becoming to common, what happened to learning from the mistakes of others.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Aug 08
I believe we're losing maternal and paternal instincts for some reason. So many people aren't really connecting with their children, don't see them as precious. I can't imagine that! It's totally foreign to people like you and me, like aliens have come to earth and are masquerading as humans.
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• Bahamas
21 Aug 08
I must agree! It's like they are not prepared for what is required to be good parents. Taking care of children is a huge responsibility,you cannot just forget the biggest responsibility you'll ever have, nor can you take it lightly. My heart just breaks when kids are neglected by those their very lives depend upon. You can forget your keys or your phone, but never your child is my opinion.
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• India
21 Aug 08
Hi friend, i have never heard about this. i cant even think about. Forget their own children, is unbelievable. Now think about the mother who forget about her child. What was her thought about more than her child. If you ask me, they surely put in jail.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Aug 08
I see you're from India. Here in the U.S., emphasis is put more on material things than true treasures. We work to have nice houses, nice cars, the latest fashions and women are regarded as lazy if they don't work outside the home and put their children in daycare. Everyone is after money. Those who have to work to exist do so and those that don't have to work for a basic existence do so in order to keep up with everyone else who has nicer things than they do. I think things are different in your country. This type of thing happens nearly every day here--kids left in a car, left at a store, forgotten and left alone in their house, left alone to drown in a swimming pool because one parent thought the other was watching them. It goes on and on. To be fair, many women work because they have to and they hate leaving their children while they work. This woman may have been one of them. But to forget your child, to me, is inexcusable and you shouldn't have children if they're not foremost in your mind.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
21 Aug 08
I would put them into jail and if there are other children, take them away, give them into the custody of an aunt, or the mother of the woman, or someone of their relatives who knows how irresponsible the mother was because I am sure that they have seen or heard of her neglect. If there is help, therapy. And considering that I never would have neglected my baby daughter that I had to give up for adoption, and as a result that I was made ashamed of going to a clinic to get tested for Vd and eventually was unable to bear any more children, in order to vindicate what I went through, maybe sterilization is the answer. She proved that she did not care and was more interested in making a buck rather than looking after her child.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
31 Dec 08
No I haven't. I no longer live in the city where she was born and have moved out of the province. I do not know if the laws have changed since then. Then there was not allowed to be any contact. I did meet a lady once who could have been her, but that was quite a number of years ago.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Aug 08
Oh, I'm so sorry you couldn't have more children! Sometimes we pay for life for mistakes we make in our youth, like not going to the clinic to be tested. But your mistake didn't hurt anyone other than you and you did what you thought was best for your daughter. Have you ever contacted her?
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@valeria1 (2721)
• United States
21 Aug 08
I basically do not believe it! I saw a movie on tv on of the law and orders with a case like that and actually they had killed their baby before putting in the car, I am actually a lawyer and I dealt with many types of criminals, I do not believe they forget the baby inside the car! Come on!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Aug 08
I could not read about things like this and deal with them like you do. You must have a lot of stress! It happens frequently in Arizona, where I lived for 28 years. And the heat there can kill a person inside a car in less than half an hour! People leave their kids in the car, let them wander unattended and drown in the pool, back their trucks up over them because they didn't know they were there, etc. Arizona is very dangerous for children! Perhaps these parents have an unconscious desire to be rid of their children.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
22 Aug 08
Please see my other post elsewhere in this thread re memory disorders. It can happen at any age, & it is NOT the mother's fault if she suffers from this. If you have one of these disorders, yes, YOU CAN FORGET ANYTHING, NO MATTER HOW IMPORTANT. Maggiepie (Who knows from experience, & who now is medicated to prevent most of this)
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@mikinikih (201)
• United States
21 Aug 08
I understand the brain fog of early motherhood, but not to the point of forgetting a child for the whole day! Last year I was driving to the grocery, and I looked in the back seat and went--whoa--where's the 3 year old? Did I leave her somewhere? Then I remembered I'd dropped her off at preschool half an hour earlier.... Though I believe that was the excuse of another mom (in Texas maybe??) a couple years ago, that she'd thought she dropped the kid off at the sitter's, but somehow missed that step. Not a good enough excuse in my mind. Even sleeping kids make noise. Jail and therapy should be mandatory....killing by neglect is still killing.
@toaste (139)
• United States
22 Aug 08
There is just no justifiable excuse for forgetting your child. NONE!! My child is grown with two beautiful daughters of his own. I babysit these kids all week and sometimes overnight and I know what they are doing all the time. When they are not with me I think about them and I call them. When they are with me my son calls and asks about them. I agree killing is killing and there is just no excuse.Losing your child is not punishment enough because apparently they didn't care about the child to begin with. A child is the most precious thing you could have and you just simply can't forget their existence.......How tragic
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
22 Aug 08
Yes, it's tragic and they have another child, too. I pray that he's safe but now that this horrible thing has happened I'm thinking they'll cherish him more than ever.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Aug 08
At least you gave a thought to your child and wondered where she was. I agree with jail and therapy. Maybe she didn't really want a child in the first place, it was just expected of her by her husband or her parents or whatever. I feel very badly for her but that doesn't excuse her neglect.
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• United States
24 Aug 08
I don't understand how people can forget their children in the back seat. I always know where my child is. I've never forgot that I put him in my vehicle. My son is 2 years old and can talk now but even when he was a baby and couldn't talk I never would have forgotten him in the car. I just don't get it.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Most of us can't understand this type of thing at all. But as another responder pointed out, there are a number of conditions that go undiagnosed that can cause memory malfunctions like this and they're pretty common. I hope it was something like that. I hope you'll keep the family in your prayers, they'll need as many as they can get.
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@Feona1962 (7526)
• United States
23 Aug 08
Very, very sad indeed...I just don't understand how a person can remember to get up, get dressed, get ready for work...Get the baby ready to go to daycare and then forget that the baby is in the car when they reach their destination... There are no excuses....This is something that just irks me everytime I read it...How does one forget that their precious cargo is in the car?
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@Feona1962 (7526)
• United States
24 Aug 08
That could very well be...I am sure the mother is distraught and never meant any harm to her baby..I do feel for her because this isn't going to be easy to live with...I don't think she should have to go to jail...That would just be the worst that could happen...Hopefully she can get treatment and others like her... It is a really sad thing for anyone to go through...and when this happens it isn't intentional... I do pray for her and her family that they do get through this....
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@kaysue4 (951)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Dragon, I have memory laps also, but mine is from all of the meds that I take. That could be another thing to look at, what meds is she on that could cause forgetfulness. My kids will say something to me and than asked me just a few minutes later, and I had no clue that we even had talked about anything.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
23 Aug 08
I don't understand it but there may be a medical reason for it. One of our members replied and said sleep apnea caused her to forget things like if she put a pan on the stove or someone's birthday--even writing it down did not help. It could be that this woman and others who have done things like this have this or a similar condition that interferes with the memory process. I pray she does have something like that, because it will make it a little easier to live with. I couldn't live with myself if I did that, no matter the cause. My heart goes out to her but I'm still very angry that things like this continue to happen. Perhaps moms should be tested on a yearly basis--dads, too!--to be sure they are healthy and cognizant.
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@cher8558 (425)
• Canada
23 Aug 08
Hi friends, This is just terrible. I will never understand a mother not thinking for one minute about their child. I have had three children and I always thought about them all day long at work. I used to have their pictures on my desk. The thing I really don't understand is why no-one looked into why an 11-month old baby was in a car by itself. This is the world we live in. Nobody wants to get involved. It makes me sick. GET INVOLVED PEOPLE! If you see a baby in a car, take the time, hang around for a bit. The baby should not be alone in the first place! Cheryl
@chertsy (3798)
• United States
23 Aug 08
Like I told my mom tonight, if I came across a child in a car with the windows rolled up with no parent around. I won't be standing around, I would be looking for something I could break the window with to get the baby out. I rather be charged with a broken window, than knowing I could have helped a child that was in a car in the heat or cold.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
23 Aug 08
Yes, we should all get involved when we see something like this. The parking lot, though, was practically deserted since school had not begun yet. Maggiepie, on this page, tells about a possible explanation. It's worth reading, and makes me feel better. Not because it happened, but because the mother may not have been uncaring but actually unable to remember. That takes the "monster" factor out of it and makes it a little easier to bear.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Just for the record, I'd be the FIRST to grab a hammer or whatever & break out a kid (OR an animal). The "good Samaritan" law covers such events so you can't be arrested or sued. Thanks again, Dragon, for pointing out my posts! Maggiepie
• United States
21 Aug 08
I can almost understand forgetting your child for a second but all day? I mean in our rush sometimes to get around I can see getting into the car starting it and saying oh no then going into the house to get them. I can see even missing the babysitters stop going to work and saying oops got to turn around and drop off the baby. I do not understand how you can get the child into the car get to work, work all day and not realize that you did not stop to drop the child off. The worst thing I think we as a family ever did with one was my youngest was 5 and we all piled into the car. Went to pull out and my husband thank God noticed that the youngest had not gotten in the car. He was still waiting to be let in. It was a very scary moment when we realized that he had been left out. It made me feel like a terrible mom. As parents we all make mistakes but leaving a child in the car all day is a hard one for me to understand. I do think in these types of situations or in most child abuse situations the guilty parties should be sterilized.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Aug 08
That must've been so scary for you-and your child! You were blessed with a father for your kids, though, that stayed and helped raise them so you had a failsafe in place.
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• United States
23 Aug 08
It is so sad when you hear stories like this. I pray for the family.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
23 Aug 08
They will need a lot of prayer. Maggiepie brought up a very good alternative explanation if you'd care to go read her post above yours. It makes me feel much better that it may not have been a neglectful mother but a real physical problem that affects the brain.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Thank you so much, Dragon. My hope is that others will see these posts & have themselves checked out if they're too "forgetful." I really REALLY want to thank you for your posts. Also, thank you for the best-of vote! :o) Maggiepie (Who remembered to check out your post tonight! LOL!)
• Philippines
23 Aug 08
well, maybe she needs therapy. we can't put her on jail that easy and add burden to her feeling.
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• China
24 Aug 08
i am a mother. i have never forget my baby in the back seat. those mother must be too careless. to me , i would like to lost myself than baby.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Most everyone said the same exact thing. Nice to know there are so many wonderful mothers! But I think maybe something was wrong with this woman. Another person who replied said she had a terrible time for years with memory, forgetting something she did just a few minutes ago. Turned out she had sleep apnea. Maybe this woman has some sort of medical condition that hasn't been discovered.
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22 Aug 08
I think this is awful!! I am with you - my daughter is always in my sight wherever we are be it home, shopping or at friends houses.Obviously she may have tiny accidents sometimes when she is playing - it happens and they have to learn, but other than that I prevent her falling or bumping as much as I can if I can see it could be dangerous. I honestly don't know how anyone could think of leaving their child in the car for any length of time on their own, let alone in such high temperatures. I understand women wanting to work after having a child and some people just don't have a choice, but if you can't get a sitter then for goodness sake take the day off work and care for and protect your child. My daughter is the most precious thing in my life with my husband close second and I could never forgive myself if anything happened to her that was my fault. I am not sure what course of action should be taken against this woman, but she should not be allowed to be in charge of children on her own, she is clearly not that maternal. I hope she is severely punished for this and hope it never leaves her mind, she does not deserve to have peace in her thoughts. Sorry if this sounds harsh, some women/families can't even have children who long so much for them - this woman should think about what she has lost and how that will effect these other families.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
23 Aug 08
She'll be haunted by it the rest of her life. I don't understand how she could have done this but I feel very sorry for her and her family.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
24 Aug 08
HMMM. My apologies. My computer must have hiccuped, as it sent my reply to the wrong post! I hate 'puters... Grrr....! Maggiepie
23 Aug 08
I hope she will be haunted quite honestly, I am not a heartless person, but if you are blessed enough to have a child they rely on you to look after them you are all they have. If she has mental health issues that is very sad, but somebody should be looking out for her also and she shouldn't be left alone with a child. I am sorry to be so graphic and harsh, that's me,can't be doing with treading on eggshells with such a serious issue I am just being honest. If the woman didn't have help before she and her family will definitely need it now.
@mansha (6298)
• India
24 Sep 08
Are you sure she was the real mother or may be she did it deliberatley some sadistic streak. I know of mothers deliberately making their kids sick to draw attention but forgetting the child and in that heat, what a terrible fate for the kid. I can't even think of the cries that child must have cried befre dying. In Delhi a teenage girl was murdered recently with her parents sleepig right in the next room , I still can not nderstand how can you sleep through the whole thing and so soundly that you didn't even hear your own kid crying out for help.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
28 Sep 08
When my kids were small I used to get up at nights just to check their cots to see if by chance any ant or mosquito is there biting them. I was so scared even though I got th pest control done and use mosquito nets. I had gone completely crazy with them. My mother used to mock me then a lot.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
24 Sep 08
That's beyond me, too, but some people are incredibly sound sleepers. My sister was like that, she couldn't wake up (we think it was depression) and we had the fire department break into her house once because she wouldn't wake up--but let one of her kids cough or sneeze or talk in their sleep and she was up like a shot! I don't know how moms can forget their children. I think of mine all the time and I'm 1800 miles away from them (they're 20 and 21). Not an hour goes by when I don't think of them. We're losing the maternal instinct in this country, I think.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
23 Aug 08
As a mom of two kids, I honestly don't see how a parent (mom or dad) can leave their kids by themselves at any age, or any types of weather be it hot or cold. I think these parents should be put in jail, leaving a child in a car should be a crime and handled like one. With 90 degree heat, even after 1 hour, the inside of a car is so hot your drink becomes hot. Today, I was in a store for maybe 2 hours and my drink was close to boiling hot, only because it was 100 degrees outside. That poor baby, got so dehydrated, he/she couldn't even scream in pain. With nothing to drink, and the heat, that poor baby suffered. I can get into my truck that's been outside in this heat, and the heat from inside just makes me sick, gives me a sore throat. Ugh, makes me want to grab that woman, throw her into the car roll of the windows, make a cop stand outside to make sure she doesn't try to get out or roll the windows down, and nothing cold to drink. Let her see for herself how her child suffered all because she stupidly forgot her child in the backseat. Reason I say this, because those tests you see on tv, where they are showing how hot it does get inside isn't cutting it with these parents. With my 2nd child, I was tired at heck, having to get up for a 3 am feeding, then 5 to take my husband to work, then taking my oldest to school at 7, then coming home to do everything and napping when I can, to going to get my oldest from school, then turning around and getting my husband at work. I will admit, only thing I ever did was forget my oldest at school because I was running late, or I was so tired, I didn't wake up when my alarm didn't go off. I never forgot my kids in the back seat, nor did I leave them inside by themselves. Only time your allowed to leave a child alone, is to get out and get gas, everything else, my kids went with me. There's other dangers than just the weather, that a parent has to worry about, what if you left your child in the car and it gets stolen. Sad to say, I think people need to be tested to see if they are ready to be a parent. It isn't the age of the person that makes them a good parent, it's the maturity.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
23 Aug 08
I read the comment after I posted mine. There's to many cases of parents leaving their kids in cars, and it's not all mom's that it's happening to. There are cases when your sleep deprived or like this lady that has a medical condition. I honestly can't see that every case that this happened to, the person has this medical condition. I think tests should be done to rule this out and then go from there. I admit I responded to harshly, I think being a mom myself, my mother bear came out.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
23 Aug 08
I read a comment on this very page from a person (Maggiepie) diagnosed with sleep apnea--it makes you forget things, important things. Sleep apnea is very common these days. This poor woman could have that condition. I'd appreciate if you'd go look at that comment, if everyone would. I am not excusing this woman but there may be an underlying condition that she has no control over. And no matter what the cause, even if it's a medical problem, she'll be blaming herself the rest of her life and never have peace. I hope it's medical, that should make it a little easier on her conscience.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Chertsy, I, too, have a "mother bear" gene. See my post regarding the hammer, above. I appreciate your righteous anger, & don't really blame you for having such a normal, human reaction. It's just that we need to see if there aren't other possibilities before we blanket someone with condemnation. Sleep apnea IS common, & anyone, male, female, young or old, bright or dumb as dirt, can suffer from it. I'm just SAYIN'.... (BG) Maggiepie
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@mflower2053 (3223)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Once I made the mistake of closing the door when my daughter was in the car b/c I had to get something out of the front and I forgot that I locked the door. Man I freaked out. When pop a lock came and opened the door I grabbed her started crying. She was just smiling and laughing. I am happy she was ok. B/c that happen to me it will never happen again. I check and double check and check again lol. I don't know how people can forget their child is in the car. I think it is really sad and no telling she may have did it on purpose. Crazy people in this world today you never know and yes she should be punished for it. I know she is being punished by losing a child but if she would of been doing what she was suppose to as a parent and taking care of that child then she wouldn't be in the situation as it is. Once I worked with this dangy girl who called and said she had to turn around b/c she forgot her daughter was in the car and didn't drop her off at the babysitters. What??? I don't think she was lying b/c she did alot of dangy things. Anyway Poor baby had to lose their life for parents being stupid.
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• United States
27 Aug 08
OMG that is so sad
@msedge (4011)
• United States
28 Aug 08
I maybe forget things sometimes but i swear i will never forget my child.She is always my first priority.Having her is the most wonderful and important thing that happen to me and giving all my attentions to her makes me always feel happy.I would say that woman is a very irresponsible mother.How could she forget her child inside her van.I can't find any reason why that happened.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
28 Aug 08
I am just the same way as you and don't understand anyone forgetting their child. There must be something physically wrong in their brain.
@msedge (4011)
• United States
4 Sep 08
Thats what i thought also.
• United States
23 Aug 08
I personally just don't understand how anyone who calls herself a mother could forget and leave her child in the car for any reason. There is no acceptable excuse for something like that. I love my children and know where they are and what they are doing at all times. Even when my oldest is with someone else I keep tabs on him, to make sure his okay.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
23 Aug 08
I understand how you feel and I feel the same way. Another member, though wrote about similar lapses and she was diagnosed with a type of sleep apnea that caused her to forget things she did even minutes after she did them. A proper diagnoses took care of it but at great personal cost in friends and employment. Could it be that this woman and others are suffering from similar conditions? I hope so, because otherwise it would be even more unbearable.
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@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
22 Aug 08
Obviously you are a GREAT Mom. Some moms are not so blessed. I cannot imagine forgetting my baby is in the back seat. However, I cannot imagine living with myself if I did forget my baby was in the back seat. That would be a form of Hell I don't think I could stand. If we start putting people in jail just for being stupid, the whole country will be ONE BIG jail. Somebody invented a contraption that you sit your baby on. It is wired to the vehicle so if you don't pick your baby up out of its car seat within so many seconds after turning off the engine, it beeps on your keychain. When I saw it on the news, my first thought....what a GREAT idea. Then the very next words out of the newcaster's mouth were "Experts say this device is just preying on the fears of mothers." SO WHAT??? If it saves the life of just one baby, it has been worth it!!! I think the experts who said that are STUPID!!!