Naming your children
By ZephyrSun
@ZephyrSun (7381)
United States
October 19, 2008 1:50pm CST
I was reading this article that about a man that secretely named his new born daughter without his wife knowing. I myself would be pretty upset with my husband if we had agreed on a name and he changed everything without talking with me about it first. The man and his wife had agreed to Ava Grace but the man got new papers to have the baby girl named Sarah McCain Palin.
Now I would be extremely upset with my husband had done this, I honestly couldn't imagine how mad I would be. Would you be upset by this or would you not really care? My ex-husband and I agreed to the names that we gave our children and it was hotly debated for our first child but since he named our first child I named our second child. Did you have "debates" about the name for your child or children?
Here's the article incase you would like to read it.
http://timesnews.net/article.php?id=9008551
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28 responses
@Vladilyich1 (1454)
• Canada
19 Oct 08
That happened to me while I was in Vietnam. We had agreed that, if a boy it would be Nikolas and if a girl, Aleksandra. I came home and discovered the boy was named after me (and the "fourth" to boot!) Our second child was a girl, I was home, and she is Aleksandra. One of several reasons why we aren't married.
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
19 Oct 08
I mentioned that President thing to him too, and the W in GWB stands for WALKER!!!! How sick is that? I wonder if GWB was born before 1946, if not, MY Walker had the name before he did. LOL
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
Here's the scary part danish the president Bush was born July 6, 1946.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I would be so mad. At least Walker is a cool name could you imagine if it was McCain? I would be smokin mad at my parents if they gave me 3 last names. I hope you don't call yours the fourth lol. While I was reading your wife's response I noticed that if you turned your initials are also the same as the current president? Sorry just had to point that out.
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@CanadaGal (4304)
• Canada
19 Oct 08
I would freak on my mate if he named our child without my permission. That's awful! And especially considering the name was chosen from political hype that's in the media now... YUCK!
I know someone who's friend was named by her father while her mother was laid up in hospital after her birth. He named her "Bambi Blue", after a stripper he was messing around with at the time. I'm surprised the mother kept the name once she was out of hospital. I certainly wouldn't under the circumstances. Bambi Blue is now in her mid 20's, and apparently suits her name just fine. lol.
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@CanadaGal (4304)
• Canada
20 Oct 08
Technically they could change the name at any time, just as you and I could do the same. Hahaha... reminds me of that episode of "Friends" when Phoebe renamed herself "Princess Consuela Banana Hammock". I don't think I'd be that gutsy though.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I would be mad about the whole political trash but I would be so mad about the trust factor as well. I actually like the Bambi but the Blue part would have to go for me
I did read in the article that they have up until a year to change the baby's name. But still it's just mad.
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@peedielyn (1207)
• United States
19 Oct 08
Hi ZephyrSun! I have four kids and argued with everyone about the names of my kids. My first born is Enoch Ezekial. I wanted to name him Tristan Scott, or Tritan Ezekial. My dad said Enoch and it stuck. It took me two weeks to pronounce that name right (it's pronounced E KNOCK) from the Bible.
My second's name is Eva June after my father's mother. He said she hated the name but I won the argument. We called her June Bug and he said that is why she hated it. We call my daughter Bug now. Just Bug.
My Third child's name is Dakota Thomas. I didn't argue with dad but my biggest enemy wouldn't leave the delivery room until she got to name the baby. I said I didn't give a flying F*ck what she named him, just to get the hell out of the room. So that stuck. His name if he was a girl was going to be Chevie Cheyenne.
My Last child's name is Alivia Kay. I thought that since Dakota was a boy that I could name this one that. Nope, about an hour before I was going to give birth my mom and sister argued with me to name her Alivia. My dad preferred an Olivia instead so he could call her his Olive Oil. Haha funny.....NOT! It stuck and to spite them I call her Biskit. I love that name and it fits her. I pretty much changed all their names in order from oldest to youngest. Beener, Bug, Kotabob, and Biskit. THere, that should stop the arguing.
I think if my spouse would sneak behind my back especially after all the fighting to name them what I had, I feel that murder would be in order. I don't deal with decete too well and would probably change the names anyhow just to spite them. I don't like people messing with my kids.....Have a blessed day!
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@peedielyn (1207)
• United States
20 Oct 08
My dad's big thing about Tristan was "No grandson of mine is going to be nicknamed Trissy!" LOL So, Enoch stuck. Thank you for the comments. My kids all know how special their names are. Biskit is also called Livers, livia, livvie kay, and Biskithead. Glad you all liked them!
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I love the name Enoch, when I was little my little brother use to call them Eknock, Scahrack and tobedwego
It sounds like you really had some debates with your names, they are all very pretty names. I wanted my first child's name to be Tristan but my husband at the time didn't like the name so after I divorced him and had a child I name my last child and spelled it Tristian since it was a little different than all the other Tristans.
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@ndaniel229 (419)
• United States
19 Oct 08
OLIVIA - I LOVE IT :) great name *wink* Some people call her olie (Long O) And I call her livs.
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@IrishRose23 (542)
• United States
19 Oct 08
When we named our daughter, and knowing when she would be born, I was adamant about picking her name. Her father tried to change her name, but quickly changed it back since it didn't seem to 'fit well' with his last name. Well, she doesn't have his last name, she has mine. When she talks to her dad on the phone, you can hear her giggle every time he says her name. So, we didn't have any debates- he knew he wouldn't have won anyways.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I don't know why some men try to debate women, don't they know they won't ever win?
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@Vladilyich1 (1454)
• Canada
19 Oct 08
My wife doesn't have her biological father's name. She changed it years ago to her mother's (Danish) maiden name. She doesn't have mine, either. We decided before the marriage that the world doesn't need another "Mrs. Bennett". She remains a "Christensen" for life and I think that's a good thing.
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@ndaniel229 (419)
• United States
19 Oct 08
When I was pregnant with my daughter, I wanted the name Navi (it's from a video game) But my mom talked me out if it... but there was another nagging name I fell inlove with - Olivia. I think it was all the Law and Order:SVU I was watching. Her father wanted Jade Ariel ... which was really prety too bad he told me it was a stripper her once knew. The middle name was a toss up. I wanted Isabella - he wanted Dakota, Mackenize and countless others. He came up with Star...I LOVE STARS and it was just fitting... so I guess we compromised there.
But I faught for her first name def. He must have gone thru 50 names (including that Jade Ariel name) till I told him as I pointed to my belly... This is Olivia. Deal with it :) Of course I got my way!
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Oct 08
That's so funny. I only have boys but I would have loved to name a little girl Cathrine it was my grandmother's name. Glad to see you won!
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
19 Oct 08
I want to meet that kid one day, Walker. I can't wait to meet Dakota. I bet he and I would get along GREAT since I'm so much like his Mama.
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@Vladilyich1 (1454)
• Canada
19 Oct 08
My youngest daughter has a Dakota, but he's a boy. Many years ago I gave the parental curse "may you have a child just like you". She did. Dakota, as she puts it, is the "child from hell".
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@kezza246 (82)
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19 Oct 08
Well i have not had children you but i agree i would be very upset if something like that happened to me. Now i have an idea what i would like to call my children but of course this would be up for debate with my partner and the name would have to be something that we both agreed on and liked.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Oct 08
I like both names. I really like Jamie for a girl. It's not very common where I live. I tried to name my children names that weren't common when they were born and all have become very popular now. I have a Jordan, Noah, and Tristian all boys.
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
19 Oct 08
WHAT???? No way!!!!
Something similar (though not that "sensational") happened to my husband when he went off to Viet Nam. They agreed to call the child Nicholas if he was a boy, and Aleksandra, if she was a girl. Well, when my husband WGB III was in Viet Nam, his wife went and called the boy WGB IV, which they did not agree upon. My husband did not want a dynasty, and he did not want a "4th" He wanted the child to have his own identity.
But what this husband did is totally low, even lower than that. The child is going to be teased for life!!!!
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
19 Oct 08
And what's worse, in my husband's case the wife THOUGHT she was doing it for him. UGH! He didn't WANT that!! it's a case of a woman giving up her identity, and making my husband feel really bad for being a man, thus by his very BEING, making her think she had to do that. What part of NO didn't she get??!!
"The fifth?" ARGH! That's even worse than being called Junior.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Oct 08
My cousin has that dynasty thing going on too his child is the fifth. UGH they call him the fifth. I can't believe that spouses would do that at all. You are so correct that child will be teased for a very long time.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I left it under your husband's thread but the president GWB was born on July 6 1946.
@moondancer (7433)
• United States
20 Oct 08
Me, myself...I would be livid and it would be a good thign that you can change a babies name if that were the case. I would do what I could to get it changed. My husband wuld be in the dog house so to speak for sometime over that. Using politians names, no way.
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@moondancer (7433)
• United States
20 Oct 08
You are right, trust would then be a huge issue. That is a very important thing to put a name on your child like that. After months of trying to come up with a name that you both can agree on. Believe me I'd be very upset. The sofa would be his bed for sometime to come. As for trusting, that is hard to gain back.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
You're pretty nice because I told my husband I would probably leave him over it. I think the secrete change would make me not trust him at all. I agree with using politicians as a reason to name children. They all appear to be sleezy.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
20 Oct 08
We named our sons after our fathers, but I was upset when my son and daughter-in-law named my granddaughter after our grandmothers. I would like to live long enough to have my great grand daughter named after me, but unless the prognosis is good, it might not happen that way. I would not like naming a child after a celebrity or someone famous unless he was a relative. Sarah is a nice name though. I guess they did not name their children after grandparents though.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
20 Oct 08
Just keep the Sarah part, and then they can say they named their daughter after Sarah in the Bible, just in case Sarah Palin does not become the first female to be the president of the United States.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
Well I hope you are able to see your great grand daughter named after you. That is a pretty neat idea of naming your children after your fathers, my father has that Jr. III thing going on so it would have never worked for us. Besides my husband at the time name was Jerry and I could help but think of the old cartoon Tom and Jerry. lol I do agree that Sarah is a nice name my two boys have Bible names as well but the McCain and Palin part was silly lol
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@sacmom (14192)
• United States
22 Oct 08
I would have been furious with my husband had he done this. With both of our kids he insisted that I write down a list of names that I like and he would go through it and cross out the ones he didn't care for. I thought this was fair, and had he gone back on this and named our children something totally different would have sent me into a tizzy, to say the least.
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@sacmom (14192)
• United States
23 Oct 08
No, he didn't do that, but with our second child we didn't use the name we had agreed upon that was on the list. I had a heck of a time coming up with boy names and in the end his parents were the ones that came up with a name for our baby. Good thing too because it sounded so much better than the name my husband and I had settled on.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
22 Oct 08
That is a really good way to come up with a solution for naming children. Well as long as he didn't cross off every name lol
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@mflower2053 (3223)
• United States
20 Oct 08
My dad did that to my mom. When my brother was born they had agreed on the name Michael well while she was asleep the nurse came in and my dad named him after himself so now my brother is a jr. My mom was pissed. My brother doesn't even use his real name for much. We call him by his nickname. I noticed my husband was able to name our daughter while I was on the phone with a friend telling her I had the baby. I really think both parents should sign the paper. He did name her what we wanted and spelled it right but I would of been mad if he would of changed it.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I'm surprised your mother didn't beat your father . That's great that your husband was able to do everything correctly. Well if I read the article right the husband signed the wife's name to the paperwork. If that's the case I would be so mad.
@writermommy6 (60)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I find it so interesting when dads fill out paperwork. I'm the official paperwork person in the family, sick or not.
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@kezabelle (2974)
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20 Oct 08
My partner has more respect for me than to go behind my back and do that!
I named our first daughter but only from a list of names we both liked he named our second daughter again from a list of ones we liked, if either of us had felt the need to change our childrens names we would speak to one another first about it we can be honest with each other though
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
That's so good to see. The man in this article was so disrespectful to his wife.
It's a really good way to come up with names. I can't understand why this man didn't just ask his wife what she thought.
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@pennyroo55 (15)
• United States
20 Oct 08
The whole time I was carrying my child I had choosen the name Christopher Brian if it was a boy and Christine Marie if it was a girl. Well he was a boy - - when they handed him to me in the delivery room I just looked at him and said Christopher Brian - Christopher Brian- then started to cry. I told my husband OH he does not look like a Christopher - now what are we going to do - I hadn't picked anything else out :( He said how about Joshua. Joshua, Joshua I kept saying it while looking at my son and surely enough he did look like a Joshua to me, lol. So he ended up with the name Joshua Brian. :) We sometimes call him just Josh - or Josh Bri. I feel his name really fits him and it was a shared decision between his father and I.
Joshua is now 25 and he is the pride and joy of my life. I can hardly wait to have grandchildren - and they will be named what ever Joshua and his wife Katie decide - - makes no difference to me. I had my chance now they will have theirs.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
That is so interesting. I have never heard anyone say that they were going to name their child something and but the didn't look like that name. It sounds like something my mother would say. I actually like both names you thought and picked. It's good that your husband was so easy going about changing the name.
@chameleonsdream (1230)
• United States
20 Oct 08
Oh, I have a similar story, pennyroo! All throughout my first pregnancy, my husband and I had decided on the name Casey Lynn if she was a girl. One of the names we had talked about and discarded was Cara Lisa - which he actually liked, but I talked him out of it. When she was born, they whisked her to the other side of the delivery room to suction her lungs and dragged dad over with them to "talk to her". I was still on the delivery table and could hear him crooning, "It's okay, Casey, it's all right little Casey Lynn" - and her start screaming... and something in me just -knew- that Casey Lynn wasn't her name. So I yelled from across the room "That's not her name! Her name is Cara Lisa!" He never missed a beat, just switched over to "There, there, Cara Lisa.. it'll be just fine." She's 25 now, and loves her name so much that she uses her full name, even when she first introduces herself.
Also funny - our choice for a boy's name would have been Brian Christopher - for my brother Chris - who had a son two months before us and named him Brian - and my youngest male nephew is named Joshua Brian. It's neat hearing other people talk about their choice of names for their kids!
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
20 Oct 08
oh i heard about that! thats just crazy! why would a guy do that? obviously he doesnt care about his wife's feelings all that much. my hubby and i agreed on our daughter's names. i picked our oldest's first name, he picked her middle; my hubby picked our youngest's first name, i picked her middle.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I don't have a clue as to why someone would sneak behind their spouse's back to name a child, it just seems like a major trust issue would be created. You and your husband seem to have a great way to pick out the naming. My husband and I just bounced names off of each other until we found ones we liked
@Tammuz (347)
• Romania
20 Oct 08
I don't have children yet,but I would go mad if my son's name would be other than Eduard Alexander or my daughter's name would be other than Catherine(Ecaterina in romanian).I think these things should be discussed even before the child is conceived.There aren't lot of men inspired enough at the name choosing "game",so a little help from their wives is more than useful.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I really think couples should decide together and do it early. I really like your names that you picked out.
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@aidenofthetower (1814)
• United States
28 Oct 08
This has been a fun discussion to read with the baby naming responses. First I will start out with the article. That is insane. How could naming their baby Sarah McCain Palin Ciptak (which sounds horrible) help the Mccain/Palin campaign. Sure he got an article out there about it, but it is ridiculous. Then not to even tell his wife! I would be really really mad. It is just crazy how he thinks it is going to help and how he hasn't even told her yet... I would be mad if we decided on something and then he changed it, no matter what he named the baby...but to name it McCain Palin! I love the line, "Only some friends and family members who I have called in for prayer support know at this point." Well, and the whole world...but aside from that he is having people pray for him! He's the one that did such a horrible thing!
Okay, enough about him...
For our first child, I woke up one night and I said, "Honey, if it is a boy can we name him Marcus William". My husband said sure. He was sure that the baby was a boy and that he was Marcus. We called the baby that from the beginning though we discussed girl names in case he was wrong. I got the idea from my father "William" and my stepfather "Marc" (he was never a Marcus, but I often called him that). While that is where the idea came from, I don't feel like I named him after either man (both deceased). Instead it just felt like that was who the baby was. Marcus means fierce or warlike and William means protector. Together he is a fierce protector. He is just over two now and pretty fierce (usually in a good way). He is the toughest two year old I have ever met. Awhile back he tripped over the edge of the sidewalk and flew down the concrete wheelchair ramp. I thought for sure he would cry and I would be holding him for some time. Instead he looked shocked. I go, "Are you okay?" He got up, wiped his scraped palms on his shorts and said, "Okay."
We recently found out I am pregnant again. This time my husband says its a girl. We have decided that if it is indeed a girl we will name her Samantha Grace. We haven't settled on a boy name (though we have months to consider it). I like James Alexander, but he says it is too big and royal sounding. It would also make his initials JAK...Time will tell, but by time we have it we will be ready with a boy and a girl name!
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Well first off congratulations! A new baby is always so exciting. I wish you well during your pregnancy.
The man must be crazy. I like Sarah but the McCain part I would be beyond mad.
I like the name Marcus, my father is just Mark and I think he would be mad if I ever called him Marcus lol. If you really like Alexander you could always tell your husband that it only has one more letter than Samantha lol Both the name for the girl and boy are very nice. Best wishes for you and the baby!
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@Margarit (3676)
• Philippines
20 Oct 08
I am not yet married and i dont have a child. Well since my sister is just giving birth this year i have to say it should be both couples choice so that no one will feel upset later on. My sister and my brother in law is having difficulty in naming their 3rd child, so she ask us members of the family what should be the name of the baby. So when we suggested a names, every one wanted the name of their choices to be choose which makes it more completed. after a week from the birth of the child his husband name the baby after their names, so no one will interfere to them. The baby girl is name charleigh marj, so everybody happy.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
That is a really unique way of naming a baby. And, the name is very cute at least no one else will have her name and everyone is happy.
@chameleonsdream (1230)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I actually heard this guy talking about how he did it on one of the cable news shows, and my jaw completely dropped. He did more than just go behind her back and change the name without her knowledge, he tricked her into signing the papers to name her Sarah McCain Palin. I agree with you, Zeph - I'd have -major- trust issues if my husband had pulled something like this.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
This guy just takes the cake. I would have to seriously hit him or something if he was my husband. Next we will be seeing him on the news because he's getting divorced lol Hope he likes McCain/Palin that much.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I think it's a great idea to take turns. Or someone suggested one pick the first name and the other pick the middle name. That could work as well.