what do you think of a woman who has 8 children before she was 25 years old?
By annjilena
@annjilena (5618)
United States
October 29, 2008 1:22am CST
my friend who i went to school with had her first child at 12 years of age and it continue until she had 7 more giving her a total of 8 children by 8 different daddys. it is a shame i think living in proverty and she dropped out of school haven,t went back until this day.she living on the system receiving a welfare check and food stamps so we all helped raised these kids off the tax money the irs and the federal goverment have taken from us.how do this make you feel knowing it,s people like that out there. we have protection from health department what could be the problem.
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
29 Oct 08
i think it is sad because she missed out on her teenage years and this is the time when you are supposed to hang out with friends and have fun. i also think it is sad because she relies on the government to pay all her bills and that is a burden to the rest of society.
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@disvachic (10117)
• United States
29 Oct 08
yes missing out on her teenage years is really sad.Good point
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
29 Oct 08
she was alway mature for her age she never wanted to do childish thing as a 12 year old would do.she wanted to do grown up things and wanted to go out.
@mflower2053 (3223)
• United States
30 Oct 08
Thats really sad. I heard them saying something about getting peoples tubes tied if they are living on welfare and sadly I think they should it would probably be cheaper then just letting them have all the kids they want. By different dads where in the world are these dads. Bring all of them to court and she would probably be rich lol. Maybe the economy wouldn't be so screwed up if it wasn't for people like this.
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@annjilena (5618)
• United States
30 Oct 08
tying up there tube want help it has to be the choice of the mother to respect her body enough not to sleep with everything that say they love you.most of the time many just want one thing once it,s done they say don,t call me anymore.
@getnbuy (1312)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I think it is very sad that your friend has lived her life this way. I wonder what made her do it . If it was a lack of education, or a lack of training? Perhaps she was abused early in her life and that is all she knew. Whatever it was, it is sad. I don't regret the "system" helping her out financially as much as I resent the lack of support that the "system" has given her in teaching the right way to live. If parents don't do it then schools should do it. Clergy should step in, also. Mental health counselling might have helped her early on. It would have been better for the "system" to pay for therapy for her in the beginning. Her life could have been so much better. -Also, her children's lives could have been a lot better. they are the true sufferers here. They are probably not being taught what they should know about life, either.
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@getnbuy (1312)
• United States
30 Oct 08
It is still sad, but some people just choose the wrong course. I think , for the sake of the children, though, that welfare, etc. was the best thing. No, I don't think we should have to pay for people like that, but what are the poor little children to do? Maybe they should have taken them away and given them good homes.It is a very sorry dilemma.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
30 Oct 08
wowww... it is incredibel... being a mother at 12 and have 8 children when she is 25??? what does she think she is doing??? and it is from 8 different fathers as well... i can't believe it... she is ruining her own life and teenage years... i won't have a child if i feel that i am not ready yet mentally, physically and financially... that's why i haven't had a child yet until now because i want to be a responsible mother... take care and have a nice day...
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@annjilena (5618)
• United States
30 Oct 08
well she is recieving some help she is getting free child care this allow her to go to work and maybe she can go back to school having child care.
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@freefogging (356)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I think people like that should have their tubes tied after three kids. I also think they should be made to go back to school and then go to college to get a two year degree. She can do it, even if she is lazy, which with that many kids, unless she is a bad mom, she is busy every minute of the day. So if welfare is giving her all that, then they will help her with daycare so she can get her education and support her own kids. I know there are people out there that know all about the welfare and think they can live on it forever and not work. But the world is changing and I know at least 3 states already that make the moms and dads on welfare get out there and finish school and get a job.
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@annjilena (5618)
• United States
30 Oct 08
tying up there tube want help it has to be the choice of the mother to respect her body enough not to sleep with everything that say they love you.most of the time many just want one thing once it,s done they say don,t call me anymore.she is not a bad mom she just have a lot kids to care for.she is now getting free child care and working and who knows she maybe able to go back to school.they have some good programs here she is using so maybe they can help her.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
30 Oct 08
Given the situation your friend was in, I don't think this is healthy for her, for the children, or a responsible use of resources. HOWEVER. This doesn't mean I feel this way about everybody who might have 8 children by 25. I feel that if someone is in a secure loving relationship and continues to be in one, and they are consenting adults or legally emancipated, then there is no issue to how many children they have, especially if they are financially, physically, and mentally independent. I really dislike when somebody lives off the government and then has children while doing that, but I also dislike people who think people who happen to be young should not have children. Whether some people like it or not, there ARE some very young couples who are good parents and completely independent and there is no reason they shouldn't have children.
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@annjilena (5618)
• United States
30 Oct 08
back then they had big family but today you don,t hardly hear of family being this big anymore.my mom and dad had 11 children they gave none of us away and we was not living on the system either we wasn,t rich but dad just took care of us.there are families out the that really needs help all family don,t live off the government they just need assistant to make ends meet.with the rising prices of food and the high cost of the economy sometime we just don,t make enough money to do it all.so many people are losing there jobs and need assistant from the government to feed their families.and you never know when you will need help!maybe on your feet today and out of work tomorrow
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I think if the state is supporting her, they should have taken care of that after she had 3. That is so many to ever be able to support on her own. I knew a girl that they took 3 of hers away from her and made her get a tubal.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
29 Oct 08
They can make mmore off the system than they can working.
and its a shame that she was so young with the first one.
And I hate having to share my SS with people that never worked a day in their life I had to work very hard to get what I get and so did hubby.
and then there arethe illeagals getting stuff that they refuse people in deep need for things like food stamps when in between jobs. Y a work like heck then out of a job for like a year and have to fight tooth and nail just to get a feww food stamps to feed your family then ya have the ones that have all these kids!
Makes me so mad. Some states have put in they can have no more than 2 kids and after so long they have to get a job! think something like 3 years!
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
29 Oct 08
in this state you have to get a job after so long of being on the system they even provide you with children care and help you get that job and help you perpare to get that job they have different programs to help family in need even program for married couple which a lot people don,t know that because they don,t procast it for married family however they procast it for single parents i think the system sucks i think a lot times they encourage many to relay on the system too.things are really tricky when it comes to goverment assistant can,t trust them most of the time.
@ShellyB (5241)
• United States
29 Oct 08
I seriously do not think anything other than this, sooner or later she will pay the concesequences of having 8 kids young, body wise and mind wise, that is a lot of stress for anyone. I am going to imagine that sooner or later she will not be able to just get the check, she will have to work and well find out that sooner or later kids grow up and she needs to support herself.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
30 Oct 08
she is not mentally ill she works its just not enough for 8 children
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@eddie42 (270)
• United States
3 Nov 08
oh my goodness at 12 years old this man that touch my daughter will have gotten a beat down just because of messing with my 12 year old.her parents should have protected her by going to the law on this man.she still a child herself.i can,t imagine how hard it must be for thei person.she don,t know who the father of these children on my goodness this is bad.i wish her nothing but good fortune because she is going to need it.and i know she miss her mom.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
6 Nov 08
well her father didn,t do a beat down but her parents helped her as much as they could.
@MizzLadyB08 (1174)
• United States
6 Nov 08
That is a shame. She had her first one at 12 now thats just too young. Did her parents ever think too put her on some form of birth control after she had her first child. I am 29 years old and I only have one child and it is hard so I know its hard to be 25 with 8 kids and they all have different fathers now that is a shame.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
7 Nov 08
the pills made her really sick they changed them she just couldn,t take them as a resort she have 8 children but i think i would have tried somthing else to protect myself.i know its hard i have 2
@lavender88 (192)
• Malaysia
30 Oct 08
Your friend is too young to be having so many babies at such an early age. At this age, she should still be at school and having fun like the other kids. I believe she went thorough a lot of pressures and stress. I am just so sorry that noone stepped in to try to help out where her parents failed. Anyway, pray that her future get better and her kids gets a bright future..
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@annjilena (5618)
• United States
30 Oct 08
i hope so now that she is getting free child care so she can work maybe who knows she can go back to school and finish school so she can get a better job.thank you for sharing
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@annjilena (5618)
• United States
6 Nov 08
she is not going to give her kids up she loves them she just have to get a second job if they cut the check.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
6 Nov 08
because she can,t provide for them don,t mean she don,t love them love cause nothing to own you right she didn,t make good choices but that fact is she haven,t given any of her children a way with her beening so young this says a lot a bout this woman she made a mistake and she living with it.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
1 Nov 08
I didn't think it was such a bad thing when I read your title. I thought to myself that's her choice. My grandmothers had 8-9 kids by the time they were 30. So, I didn't find that part strange either.
Now the part which I thought was a problem was....all the kids have different daddies. AND the fact that she is on welfare and the kids are paid for by the government (which indirectly means it is the money you give as tax). Now, I wouldn't be very happy with that part.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
2 Nov 08
yes back then they had large families but today you hardly ever see a person having that many kids.kids are expensive to raise and cost a lot to raise them.and to have them in a single family is equally hard two parents is hard enough especially when you have 8 children.but at least you have a partner to help shoulder the responsibilty.but the system is not for marry couples the father has to be out of the home in order for the goverment to help the mother.this is sad because how come the husband have to leave why can,t they help the family while he is there with them.so you see the government here is not right.why not try to keep the family together and help the family out a tight spot.thank you for sharing
@cherriemae (3370)
• Philippines
3 Nov 08
That's too difficult. I'm pretty sure this mother who has 8 children really had a difficult living, it's not easy because at the age of 12 she has already her 1st child,that's too young to become a mom. It's good that the government help her and her children for them to eat. How about the father of these children? It's not really easy, so, better think of the future before having a child..
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
6 Nov 08
the father of the children she doesn,t know who the father is.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
30 Oct 08
You say, annjilena, that this woman is your friend, but you do not speak of her in a friendly manner. So often it is easy for us to judge someone when we are in better circumstances than they are. Yes, she has made some poor choices in life. I believe the main focus here should be on the kind of mother she is. Maybe she is doing the best that she can in a bad situation. I'm not trying to condone her behavior; simply observing that if you are truly a friend you should try and persuade her to return to school and better herself.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
30 Oct 08
as a matter of fact i grew up with her and she was raised by two parent family.iam not judging her iam stating a fact.it was her choice of friends that encourage her to become wild you heard of bad association spoil useful habit.this girl felt grown at 12 she would curse her parents out when they tried to tell her what was right and wrong and sneek out the house at night when they thought she was sleeping so don,t you be so quick to assume she was this terrible little pregnant girl.when she fought her parents all the way. and to think no one help her. her parents loved her and provided for her she rejected her family for the friends she thought was her friends.under this condition when a child is beening neglected sometime they are better off with a adopted parent who can provide for them. she don,t listen to what i have to say she does what she wants i can,t be around her,watching her destroy her self being with different men who walks all over her and partying and such she feels her situation is find what can i do but try to encourage her she has free child care maybe one day she can go back school.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
31 Oct 08
It's probably too late for HER, but not for her kids, & any she may YET have. The children need to go to a good home to get decent examples of parents, who will teach them how NOT to wind up as their mother has. Sad, but that's life when parents fail, as hers did, to not only =teach= her, but & PREVENT her from doing stupid things.
Bit the KIDS must NOT be made to suffer for this!
Maggiepie
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
2 Nov 08
thats true so she is still trying to raise her children with parenting classes and a lot help from friends she is working now and have free child care so maybe she be able to go back to school soon and better her life for her and her children.
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@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
1 Nov 08
First child at age 12 and a total of 8 children by 8 different men (or probably boys). I'd say that this makes a good case for forced sterilization. One state in the US does not increase a woman's welfare check after the 2nd child. They pay for 2 children and that's all. Sounds like a good idea to me. If she can't raise all her children on what the state pays, she should give them up for adoption at birth. There are many families who want children and could take better care of them.
My best friend in high school quit school in her sophomore year to get married. I pretty well lost track of her. I finished school, moved to the city and went work. About 10 years later, I found out where she was living and went to see her. Since my husband was overseas at the time, I thought that this would be our chance to renew our friendship. However, I discovered that wee had absolutely nothing in common. She already had 8 children (she finally had a total of 10), and I only had one at that time. Her husband was a construction worker who worked in the summer when the weather was good. In the winter, they lived off welfare. I never saw her again.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
2 Nov 08
wow she have a lot going on in her life thats a lot of children on the income he has iam sure it,s not enough.she have went through a lot too.
@jmtdgtsam55 (61)
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30 Oct 08
I think in a way it is quite sad. Your friend has missed out on so much of her own life for a start, besides becoming pregnant underage which can't be good for her body - she has barely grown up and developed or got used to her body as it should be never mind all the strain a pregnancy puts on your body. I also feel sorry for the children having different dads, there can't be a true family bond.I am sure she loves all her children. If somebody purposely puts themselves in these situations and then the tax payers have to pay for their chosen way of life - this is unfair because there are so many other things that this money is needed for - healthcare/education(for your friend it seems)/housing etc.
I can accept a mistake as it may be a sinister reason why a very young person (especially 12)may get pregnant or just stupidity, but to do it 8 times is totally irresponsible.
I got pregnant when I was 17, it was a mistake, I thought about how my life would bethe fathers and how the life of the child would be if I had carried on with the pregnancy. I couldn't provide a decent life for my child and at 17 there was no way I could say I would be with the father for the idefinite future and I certainly did not want to be a single mother, that is not fair on anybody. We both came to a joint decision of the best course of action and although I felt incredibly sorry for doing this to my baby, it may have suffered more if I had have continued with the pregnancy.I learnt a huge lesson from this because I lived not knowing if I would ever have a child and if that had been my only chance,but I know I couldn't have grown up, learnt about myself,worked and found my husband if I had have gone through with it.
I now have a 2 year old daughter that has a stable and happy home life where she does not want for anything (but is not spoilt) - I made the right decision, but I only knew this after she came along knowing how hard it is and what a strain it puts on your life having a child. I could never put my child or myself through a life of benefits and 8 different daddies.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
30 Oct 08
i suppose you made the decision that you felt was right for you. be blessed