What will happen to the poor Lady with 14 Kids?

@marciascott (25529)
United States
February 4, 2009 7:36pm CST
I think it is kind of sad, that she would want to have so many Kids and is a Single Parent, What or your views on this, I think while she has been in the Hospital her mind has really been wondering, and to be truthful she might have some good ideas, as to how she will support those Kids, What do you think? This is very contraversal I hear she has a lot of Book deals and Interviews, all sorts of things.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
5 Feb 09
From everything I have heard, Mom has some emotional issue. She had all of these kids just to have kids, there is no dad in the picture and her Mom and Dad have had enough. I am not near as concerned for her as I am for those kids. She said she wants to do a TV show on parenting - but being a parent of a 14 kids does not make you a good parent, it just makes you a parent. I think that a lot of her ideas came from the 'family' tv shows on TLC, of course these people had their kids long before the TV shows came along, this woman had her last 8 targeting them to be on a TV. That is wrong. I wonder if it is a form of munchhausen?
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
Well, I would have to say she is getting alot of attention. Did she get out of the Hospital Yet? I am she she did by now. Her Dad is standing behind her with support but not her mother. What is munchhausen, I suppose it has to do with money? maybe explain, I haven't heard of that term?
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
6 Feb 09
Persons with Munchausen syndrome intentionally cause signs and symptoms of an illness or injury by inflicting medical harm to their body, often to the point of having to be hospitalized. These persons are sometimes eager to undergo invasive medical interventions. They are also known to move from doctor to doctor, hospital to hospital, or town to town to find a new audience once they have exhausted the workup and treatment options available in a given medical setting. Persons with Munchausen syndrome may also make false claims about their accomplishments, credentials, relations to famous persons, etc. But she is actually getting in vitro -- so she is validly getting the rest of the attention. And faking her credentials...she wants to do a TV show on parenting..but as I said before - being a parent of 14 does not make you a good parent. I would say it could be related to munchausen.
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• United States
5 Feb 09
She is also going to school for childhood development! I think she is being more calculating... I'm not sure its such a confusing and weird situation! But I totally agree on the munchhausen things! Just lot at the attention she is getting now!
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• United States
5 Feb 09
I don't think her mind was wandering I think she was counting how much money she would get from the government for being a single mother with all these kids. What the grandmother said confirmed my thoughts: "She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?"' she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
6 Feb 09
Thanks whiteheather, I took a look at newsyahoo, It was very interesting. I have been trying to foll-up on it and I got lots of information from that. Thanks again have a nice week-end!
@terri0824 (4991)
• United States
8 Feb 09
Yes, this is very contraversal. I know one thing, I am sure glad it isn't me with 14 children. My two daughters were more than a handful being a single parent. I can't imagine having 14 and I think they are all under the age of 7. My parents had 7 so I am use to a large family. But I couldn't even imagine me having 7 these days.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Yes, Terry I know what you mean, I had Three that was enough for me, I lost a son nine years again, from Car accident. I have alot of Grand-children 13 I can't take them all at once!
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Y'all have more sense to do something like this to your children!
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
5 Feb 09
Yeah, I heard about that - the infetrail placing of 8 embrios. That should not have even been allowed. I think this thing with huge families of kids - that the Duggers and John and Kate plus 8 have made such a huge explosion on the tv that others are doing it as they think it is the new way of the millinieum or something. It is a money maker - you get a tax credit for every kid under 18 - last I hear is was $3200 per child... time 8 is $25,600 tax deduction.. I had to work full time a year to make that and then they took taxes out of it and I had to pay daycare!! And since you know she won't be working, she'll get welfare, ADC, Wics etc and the state will be supporting her (ergo our tax dollars will be supporting her) Yeah, book deals etc - that is such a bad thing to be an option....I am sorry but there isn't a single thing this woman can tell me or say to me that would have a single revelance of importance that a book or tv show should bring her money. Then you have companies that give things to large baby familys and helpers and all - until the kids reach high school age, she'll probably have a nice little income.
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@alharra (507)
• United States
5 Feb 09
I don't think the tax deduction for kids will cover all 8 kids. I think there is a limit on that- 2 or 3. And if she is making money through book deals, interviews and a tv show she won't be getting state assistance- there are income limits.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
5 Feb 09
I dont' know if there is alimit... have never heard there is.. what about those that just have 4 or 5 kids? That is a common number. And even if she doest get the money from the book deals etc... first - I would doubt they are going to be very big deals - who wants to hear what she has to say about raising kids? Just cause you have so many, doesn't mean you are qualified to handle that many, and with no father... on purpose.. those kids are denied a father and that is wrong. IMO she has slapped the face of motherhood. Having that many, the way she did, single.. sorry that just wrecks "I'm doing it for an income so I dont' have to go get a job". But the thing is, the job she has made for herself.. those kids are the ones that are going to pay. I saw on the news last night that holding and bonding and rocking... all those things infants and toddlers need... how is she going to supply that? Just anyone who offers to help comes in and holds the babies - how are they going to bond and find security like that! They aren't even out of the hospital and already they are being deprived. And who the heck is paying the bill for the 47 doctors and nurses (that is what the news said) not to mention nursery time and her own hospital stay time... doubt most insurance companies will cover that! Who's paying the bill?!?!?!?
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@alharra (507)
• United States
5 Feb 09
I have no idea who is paying her bills. All I know is that I as a single, unemployed and unable to find work mother, have to fight for every 'cent' I get in assistance. And if you get just a little bit of money from one source there is another source taking away money somewhere else. I have 3 kids, one with special needs. I recently applied for social security disability for the special needs child and it was approved. But now the state is trying to take away food stamp money- so now I have to fill out more paperwork to prove I'm paying rent. How stupid can these people get-
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
7 Feb 09
I read a athing on the Yahoo news, should have kept the link, but didn't think, but she had a work related injury and has been on workman's comp for a few years and that is closing now and seems odd to me that she is so unable to work, yet was totally fit as a fiddle to carry what she thought was only 6 babies - the last 2 were a surprise. She mentioned that her first pregnancy was so painful to her back (the work related injury) etc but now her back is fine to carry 6? I know on WC it is a limit of 4-5 years an you get 2/3 your salary for that whole time and hten the settlement is a huge amount. WIth the settlement you can choose a lump sum for a little lesser amount or a little more but on a monthly basis. You can "buy out" the medical for a lump sum or sign for lifetime medical for a lessor settlement amount. So she has a nice little income there. It also stated that the "Father" of ALL 14 children is the same guy and she hopes that one day he will choose to join them and be a complete famliy.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Hi Coffeebreak I heard she didn't want to get married. They showed all 8 of the children on Entainment tonight, I think that was the show.
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
14 Feb 09
Not that I agree with what this woman has done, but there are a lot of people that can't work due to problems, but are pregnant... or getting pregnant. They usually stay on bed rest or sit around the house & take it easy. Sometimes things just happen... :D
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
10 Feb 09
I saw on the ABC news that her mother - who is taking care of the 6 she already has and was so against the daughter doing this and says there is no way she iwll be able to handle it and no way can she afford it etc.... but the mother said the father wanted to marry her and asked many times, but she kept saying no as "she wanted to have the children on her own" and also before she said she "hopes that the father will come into our lives one day and we can be a whole family". So, guess the stories are getting to "he said/she said" so who knows! But I have to wonder... if the same man is the "Father" to all 14 children...what the heck was he "donating" so much for? He had to have done it in his name or she wouldn't have gotten all his "donations" to say they are all his and if he didn't want to marry her, why'd he give her permission to take all his 'donations" and did he have any say so in how many she took and when? Not a word has been said about the father... hum....
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
5 Feb 09
i think she's a nutcase. how in the world would you feed 14 kids, buy just the basic things for them would cost a fortune, i think she's hoping to sell her story for a big bundle. those poor kids, i feel sorry for them.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
Well who knows maybe some good will come out of this, I hope so for the Kids sake don't you?
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
5 Feb 09
i sure hope so. i feel sorry for all the children. this will follow them their whole life. poor kids.
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@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
6 Feb 09
Personally I feel that this was just a Publicity stunt like everyone has said here as well. What Doctor in their right mind would let a woman with 6 kids already get invitro and have 8 more kids? Especially since she is not Married. I think personally this is a Shun to Married people, and I do not feel Sorry for her at all. There are No jobs, Medical, etc. out there for the majority of people, and then this? I am stunned and shocked that there has not been a lot of Protest for sure against this one.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
6 Feb 09
Did you see how proud how all those Doctors were. It took 48 Doctors to deliver those 8 babies.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
5 Feb 09
This poor lady??? I don't think so. It is sad that fertility clinics go along with people like this lady. I think she should have had psychological counselling instead of in vitro fertilization. I think that was totally irresponsible. Who is paying for all this?
@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
I heard she has a few Ideas.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
5 Feb 09
I never heard of a woman with 14 kids so I don't what you are talking about.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
Haven't you been hearing about it on the News, Do you watch CNN?
@marciascott (25529)
• United States
6 Feb 09
Go to #4 here whiteheather has informaton about it from newsyahoo.
@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
6 Feb 09
I think this lady is unstable. She had 6 kids already. Got divorced last year. Moved herself and her 6 kids into her parents home. Then chooses an unethical pregnancy, according to the doctor I saw on tv. He said it was very irresponsible for whatever quack she went to to implant 8 embryos in such a young woman. I wish all the deals would dry up and she would have to fend for herself. Too bad that would mean her 14 children would suffer. Too bad it won't happen because there is a market in print and tv for freaks. Too bad someone can't mandate a psychological evaluation of her.
@marciascott (25529)
• United States
6 Feb 09
They had 48 doctors standing around and they were so proud that they delived all those babies.Go to # 4 she has information on it from yahoo news. it is interesting, I have been following up on it whiteheather gave me this information.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
5 Feb 09
I read that these were embroyos that she and her husband who were divorced (or it was the same divorce donor I have no idea) created because she had a blockage of her tubes and could not get pregnant the normal way. She probably felt that maybe some of them might be spontaneously aborted but she did not want them used for medical experiments or for embyronic stem cell research and they were hers. I do not know how she will support her kids. It depends whether she lives on a farm or she has a skill like sewing or doing housework or babysitting. I am considering that she comes from a poor family so does not have that much education behind her, but I could be wrong. You have to have money to afford treatments in regard to conception.
@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
It is a sad situaion, but something good might come out of this, Who knows, God will see her though it. She has to have some help with all those babies. Can you image bathing and feeding and clothing all those Kids.
@Chevee (5905)
• United States
19 Feb 09
My hearts goes out to her. I really think something is wrong with her mentally. She has been caught in so many lies. She can't afford the children that she already has. Some of those are mentally challenged or has a disability. She lives with her mother. And I think they are talking about taking her children from her. Her mother said she is tired. But I don't think she (mother) is going to turn her back on those poor children. I believe the government and the tax payers will end up caring for them all.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
21 Feb 09
Her Mother said she will help her daughter, she can't stay mad at her daughter, iT IS CALL MOTHERS LOVE.
@GAUCI123 (1042)
• Malta
5 Feb 09
Well I don't know, it was her decision to have those kids and personally I don't agree that they let her do the artificial insemination. The children will sure not have the attention needed, I cannot imagine myself in having 14 kids at home, I will go crazy.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
19 Feb 09
I would go crazy too, she will be running around like a Chicken with her head cut of. I can see her now. "I need some help"
• United States
5 Feb 09
I guess those children will grow up and have lots of brothers and sisters.
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• United States
5 Feb 09
That is a lot of kids. Not only will they have a lot of brothers and sister, but they are going to have a lot of nieces and nephews
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@riyasam (16556)
• India
5 Feb 09
that is a very sad situation.along with the ideas,she needs to have tremondous courage to go through these situations(in raising up the kids).she will have to avoid future pregnancies.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
Yes it is Becky, I hope you are doing fine. You and your family!
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
5 Feb 09
I've heard the story about the woman with fourteen children and all I have to say is 'wow' her mom thinks she's gone over the edge with all the kids, but the mother of the kids doesn't think so, I mean she's got her money's worth just for having so many different news feeds on her story, and I am sure it will even become a story some day.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
It is already a story, Ok, I have to get ready for work, I will come back later on this chat! Have a nice day!
• India
5 Feb 09
well having kids normally a lady will be happy. but here the lady is having 14 kids well its a difficult time to look after all the kids but if their financial position is well in good position then they may not feel much problem but if financial position is weak then well its a tough time for her
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
I thought this was really weird, but who is to say, I know a Lady that had 27 Kids. And this was Years and Years ago. As a matter of fact I had a Child by one of her Sons.
• Philippines
5 Feb 09
wow!so exciting....14 children with one single mother?!All i can say is, she really have to double her time to cope such responsibilities, having these 14 children is NOT EASY..So good luck!
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
Yes, right good zluck too her and her Kids! Thanks for responding!
@itsmine (104)
• United States
5 Feb 09
14 Kid with one poor lady...How the children will get good education? How the children will get proper love from their parents? How they will be controlled by their parents if they did some naughty things? Sweets are tasty if you are eating limited sweets, otherwise it will be danger to health.
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
I think she is trying to work on this with all her Ideas, I hear she wants 250,000 per child? How I don't know, Someone mentioned this. I was looking at CNN, and that is how I follow-up on it.
• United States
5 Feb 09
I just dont really understand why any lady would have 14 kids just so she could make alot of money. Its really kind of greedy or it was a desperate measure to get out of financial problems. I have not read up on this recently but I did hear the base of the story. Basicly, its sickening that she would do that..
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
5 Feb 09
Maybe she needs to be in a Mental ward, I don't think she is capable of taking care of all those kids!