Why Can't Obama Supporters discuss Prs. Obama without dragging Bush into it?

Great discussion. I'm sick of Obama blaming Bush for everything. What about Congress? They play a major role in things and even managed to have approval ratings lower than Bush last year!

I think there are some who so badly want Obama to succeed that they're blind to his faults and have to blame someone else. Since Bush has been the Democrat's and most of the media's whipping boy for the past eight years, why not just continue blaming him? I would like to see this nations wise up, but until the media starts being honest with us I don't see that happening. I have no illusions that the Democrats will ever be honest.

Yes they want to 'wait and see'. Then in about 3.5 years (around time for the next election), Obama will do some major change that makes us save money for a year..... so he'll get reelected. Then he'll once again do nothing for 4 years. Oh and that change he made to get reelected will come back to bite us. I wish there was a 1 term limit on presidents. I can't handle 8 years of waiting and seeing. Overall... I think we are going to owe much more when he is all done then we do now, which doesn't fix anything if you ask me.

Blaming Bush for the current state of things will only go so far as an excuse for Obama's actions. I suppose it's Bush's fault that Obama overspent on his campaign, his inauguration and his transition period to President - soliciting donations from hard-working American people so see him as a god instead of sticking to the budgets allowed for those purposes.

I started a discussion similar to this yesterday and asked if we are going to blame Bush for the economy, then why don't we blame Clinton for the terrorist attacks. Not surprisingly, I got someone citing Michael Moore and Fahrenheit 9/11 and all the alleged, ridiculous war crimes that Bush is accused of. So, it seems like it is not only Obama's mistakes that get attributed to Bush. It is also Clinton's mistakes that get attributed to Bush. I guess every Democrat gets a free pass by using Bush at the scapegoat. I wonder if I started bashing FDR in a discussion, would someone still find a way to get Bush in there? For Pete's sake, the man it out of office and they are STILL whining about him. It is completely impossible that ALL the world's problems can be blamed on Bush.

I think that the people you are referring to always need to place blame. And this may not be just in politics - it may be in all aspects of their lives. They just need to place blame and cannot take personal responsibility no matter what. So if the current administration isn't living up to its promises then it's automatically because the past administration didn't do the job properly. See?

As you know, I also do not like Obama. The only change that Ibama seems to endorse is to spend money we can not afford on programs that do not work. I have seen no indication that Obama wants to make arm (adjustable rate mortgages) illegal so that people will not have to face higher monthly morgage bills that they can not afford when interest rates finally start going up. Insteand of giving big money to big corporations so that they can give bonuses and trips to their top executives, Obama should try to help the people on the bottom of the financial mess so that they can afford to keep their homes. Let us impeach Obama before he spends us into the ground!

I'm not an Obama supporter either and I can relate to your frustration. It seems like Bush is blamed for everything that has happened in the past. If not the last Bush, they go back to the first Bush, his father. It seems to me that these people that are complaining about Bush should do some homework and see the problems that they inherited as they took office. If I remember correctly, the Demos in office didn't leave any huge surplus of money in the budgets. They did their fair share of spending. These Democratic and Obama supporters don't seem to be able to take all the comments that we have had to put up with for the last 8 years and then even before that. My thoughts about Obama are that he will be a very big spender that will set up back even more. Sure he has good intentions (we all do), but that doesn't make things right or fix things. A politician is a politician--they will say what they need to say to get elected and then do the opposite.

Well, I am not an Obama supporter, but It is funny how Bush is always dragged into it...I mean no one ever talks about the things Bush had to do because of Clinton, and what Clinton had to do because of Bush, sr...I mean what president hasnt had to clean up something a former president did or didnt do? I think that they are just saying Its Bush's fault...instead of defending Obama based on Obama's actions. But thats just me

It's almost a Pavlovian response today, that when defending a democrat, one must invoke an evil republican and when defending a republican, one must invoke an evil democrat. It goes on forever, trading comments and pointing out evils back and forth back and forth. Well, what does that tell us? that there is enough evil to go around. Yes, news flash folks, they are BOTH equally destructive to this country and BOTH deserve to be litteraly carried out of the halls of congress and the white house. We have been steadily programmed by the media to believe there are only two viable parties and that only one or the other is the better choice. It's a dance they have had us doing for ages now and we have all fallen hook line and sinker for it. As long as those two bunches of twits, crooks and oafs are running the show, it is only going to get worse.

Well, you know that I don't agree much with Obama politics. I doubt you'll get an answer. I have asked that question numerous times myself. I came to the conclusion that during the campaign and immediate aftermath they kept pointing fingers at Bush. It was not Obama running against McCain, no they made McCain equal to Bush, so Obama was running against Bush, who in all fairness couldn't defend himself since he wasn't invited to the debates or allowed to campaign. Anyhow, it's ingrained. It's hard to get rid of the 'but Bush' automated response button;) Give them time, they'll 'change'..

Obama's actions do speak for themselves!!!!!First of all we have been waiting for someone like this forever and we are proud as we should be. Bush Keeps getting brought into the picture because if it wasn't for him being such a horrible president it would have taken longer to get someone into office that will actually bring a positive outlook toward America's future. For the record Bush and Mcain supporters need to get over it we won move on and enjoy the ride.

Nothing that Obama has done so far has been great it is just like that show on comedy central lil bush- there is always some else to give orders. Personally I think that no one really cares about the crap that man has already done. Like signed a 417 page bill for a stimulus package that 95% of congress didn't even read before they could vote on it. And then whoosh its passed with no peep from any one. Or what about the fact that Obama is the most pro abortion president this nation has ever had. and that he passed a bill that allows stem cell work to be done - and then saying "okay, build me a body then kill." This president is so over the wall it isnt even funny - oh and to all Obama fans, just where is his birth certificate? I have my money on the fact that he probably isn't even born here in the U.S. - and by the time people realize it - it will be too late cause all the crap that he is doing right now isn't helping. and Sure he said he would give us change. A whole whopping $13 more in our paychecks. Ohh goodie now i can buy that ice cream cone when the truck comes down the street. Wake up people. This guy is not your knight in shining armor, nor is he the hope you need right now.

Have you also noticed that when things aren't going as planned, it's because of the previous administration? Obama would have a Mary Poppins administration if it hadn't been for the past eight years. "Practically perfect in every way."

It tells me they have been properly brainwashed by our esteemed media.. and have duly absorbed the "hate Bush" mania.. which I'm thinkin' is a stand in (and disguise) for the "hate conservatives" psychosis.. the present highly exalted, accepted and politically correct bigotry.

Well said and the questions while good ones, I can't imagine can be answered. I can't imagine starting a new job and telling your employer every time you mess up that it was because of the person before you. I understand that economics take years to plan, implement and happen. But I think what the Hope and Change Team are missing, we have no flippin money. Now, my household budget, if I chose to up the spending, would put me into foreclosure.... oh wait that is happening to alot of people. I think we are all scared at not only the money side, but I know I am even more scared for my rights. I would rather be with out money than my God given, inalienable rights.

I'm not an 0bama supporter but I know what your saying. It kind of reminds me of a magic show...while their yelling "Bush" over on this side of the stage, 0bama and his cronies are doing God knows what on the other side of the stage. It's a diversion and excuse so that no one has to really expect anything out of 0bama and he has a ready excuse for anything that doesn't get done or doesn't work, it's Bush's fault. Eventually that's going to become a lame excuse even to the 0bama supporters. As for the keeping quiet policy, that's basically to keep anyone with an ounce of common sense from trying to reason with the kool-aid drinkers. Again at some point even they are going to have to face the facts. Like any con artist, 0bama's false face is going to start to fade and the true 0bama is going to come out and then ppl will see him for what he really is. I'm only praying that it's not too late to fix our country by then. [b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS**[/b]

I am not very familiar with the political world, but many people believe that with Obama. Better if we see it will be better in the hands of Obama. In a short period of time we can not assess the work of Obama. we must endure more patience to assess the work of Obama. Hopefully Obama can make changes.

You seem to be bringing up two points: 1) Why do Obama supporters compare him to Bush and 2) Obama's administration is potentially (or actually) as flawed as any other President's. On the first, I think it would be very difficult to discuss any President without comparing him to other Presidents, and Obama has been compared as much to FDR, Kennedy, and others (in both good and bad ways) as to Bush, but Bush was the previous President so I think it's understandable and fair to discuss Bush when evaluating Obama. Regarding the second point, time will tell. There are some enormous changes underfoot and although I voted for Obama I'm not convinced it's all going to turn out well for his Presidency or the country but I feel this has as much to do with the Democrats in Congress as anything else. They seem as self-serving and corrupt as any other mass of politicians, not surprisingly. And I don't see Obama's promise to "reach across the aisle" coming to fruition in any meaningful way, which disappoints me. He seems to view "bipartisanship" more as expecting non-Democrats to bend to the Democrat way of thinking than to everyone working together to find the best solution for the nation. In that way he's nothing new. Maybe he'll change as time goes on but I'm not holding my breath. That's the nature of our system: each state's politician is SUPPOSED to fight for that state's constituency. I don't see how else it could be. I also don't see how any President would survive if they did nothing in terms of the economic situation and let free market forces work their magic. Such a solution may be best for the states in the long run, but the suffering in the interim would be unacceptable.