I understand that they have very little money to spare, but...
By jillmalitz
@jillmalitz (5131)
United States
May 1, 2009 4:29pm CST
I have noticed a few things since I've been here at my daughter's house. She doesn't clean very well. Doesn't put food away. I don't know how many times I have walked into the kitchen in the morning to find the previous meal left on the stove uncovered.Would it hurt someone to put away the left overs? Jeez. Yeah about a year and a half ago she lost her little work at home job which brought in about $500/month. She has not tried to get a job at all since. So meals get kind of creative here. I don't even mind that. While it irritates me that my son in law will not go more than a day or two without his beer, something REALLY bothers me. While he makes sure he has cigarettes and beer, we have no toilet paper. Yes I said we have no toilet paper in the hall bath guest/kids bath). It has been this way for a few days now. There is apparently none in the master bath either, unless it is stashed where no-one can find it. So why can't he stop and get some TP when he gets his beer? This is begining to get on my nerves. Good grief!
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@betsyhu (207)
• China
2 May 09
It seems that many girls or boys will not do housework even if she or he get marriaged. for busy working,for immersing website or games. My nuncle's daughter is the same status. No job,no other income from life, only rely on her parents money. especially, she divorced one year ago, with her little daughter is brought- up by her parents too. Maybe it's not your view,but i found that there have more younger now is like that. What can the poor parents do ?
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
I have noticed that many younger people don't seem to care about things the was us old folks did. Her husband has told her several times to try to get a job. He even offered for her to take him to work and keep the car so she can go apply but she resists.
@costas1234 (195)
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2 May 09
I guess these things might happen when money is tight and things in life do not pan out as usual.
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@carolscash (9492)
• United States
1 May 09
That sounds like a man who is selfish and not a good provider. If your daughter isn't working,then why is her house such a mess. I work a part time job and home school my kids and help my husband with his business and I also do these jobs online and my house is clean and there are rarely dishes left to be washed and food is always put away.
@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
1 May 09
Well, my daughter is lazy. She plays World of Warcraft all day and all night. She halfway runs a vacuum one or twice a month. She hops up to throw together a dinner later in the day. And it seems to take her all week to do the laundry. I had three kids but it didn't take me long to do it. I wonder about him. I just don't understand.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
2 May 09
Have you tried saying something to him or to your daughter? I mean, toilet paper is a pretty important item in every household. I wouldn't think that he would want to be without it either. Are you living with them or just there for a visit? As for the food...I would either pick it up myself or keep quiet about it. Some people just aren't real big on the housecleaning.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
Right now I am living with them and at their mercy so to speak. Late last night my daughter did manage to get to the store for a few items, tp, for one. Yeah I agree that it won't do much good to make an issue out of anything as what ever I would say might be taken the wrong way. I'm no great house cleaner myself, but I'm better than here. So, I've taken it upon my self to at least try to make sure food is put away and counters are clean, dishes at least into the dishwasher as well as trying to keep the bathroom sort of clean. Kids do make a lot of mess there cause they won't pick up their dirty clothes.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
3 May 09
The kids should be at least picking up after themselves. They should be made to. Well, I'm glad you finally got some toilet paper. I did a read thru on the rest of the discussion and so have a little better idea of the situation you are living in. Hopefully, you'll be able to find something soon. Imagine how much you are going to appreciate your own place after this experience.
@magrylouyu (1627)
• United States
1 May 09
If they live with you, I would tell them they need to either start helping out or get out. It sounds harsh but that is what I would tell my children when they got older. I couldnt handle something like that. If things are tough they should make an effort to at least help out around the house whether it be cleaning or buying the household items.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
1 May 09
Well. I actually live with them so I feel like I can't really say much about anything. It's their place and I live here rent free.
@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
That's an idea. Now if I just had a car to do that...LOL!
@magrylouyu (1627)
• United States
1 May 09
Ohh. I would buy my own roll of tp and hide it on them lol. I would anyways. I can see where this is a tough situation.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
2 May 09
I sympathize with your situation. I, too, have moved in with my daughter and her family. Admittedly she doesn't keep house the way that I would and like your daughter she leaves the evening meal on the stove at night instead of putting it away. She states that no one eats leftovers anyway. Of course me and her husband respond with the statement that we would if the food was put up. If there is something that was fixed that would be good the next day or that had a lot left over I just tell her to come put it up. I also started doing some of the cleaning myself. Not a lot because it is her home and her kids and I am not going to let myself fall into the role of maid but on the other hand I think it's only fair that I contribute since I am living in the home. I also use the opportunity to teach my grand kids how to take care of their things.
Do you have any income of your own? If so you may need to make some decisions about what you need to do for your own peace of mind. Maybe you could buy the toilet paper or get a place of your own if the stress of your daughters house cannot be tolerated. Do not let yourself feel that you have no choices.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
You make excellent points. I do what I can to try to help clean up at least the kitchen mainly cause I can't stand the sight of it. I can ignore the dust and not vacuuming but the kitchen, yuck. So I try to help keep that clean. But boy do I get tired of the sloppy way they leave it. I also help my son in law with the garden. I pulled the turnip greens, for example, and showed him how to do them. He did not know how to cook them. We both like working in the garden. I don't have any income right now. My son had a extra car until he lost his job and had to get rid of the one he was buying, He was going to let me use the extra car. But hopefully I may still get it cause he got a new job which he told me he may get to drive a company truck, so we will see. I have my fingers crossed cause my future depends on me being able to get about by myself. If I do get use of a car I hope to find a job and save money to get out on my own.
@savak03 (6684)
• United States
2 May 09
That I can identify with. My truck blew its engine so now we are all sharing the one. It is difficult but with some careful scheduling I get to go where I need to. Of course it helps that I'm the only one with a valid drivers license so I get the job of driving everyone else around.
@NuttyMomma (901)
• United States
2 May 09
it sounds like there is a lot going on in that home. is your daughter depressed? it sounds like her husband might have a drinking problem. was she always a bad housekeeper? some people are just slobs, it drives me crazy too but if she is depressed maybe her leaving food out and not caring about being out of tp is a symptom of a bigger problem. maybe you should sit her down and try having an honest discussion with her without being accusing. many people live on less income these days but still manage to keep their homes in order. good luck, it sounds like you need to really think before you have this discussion but you need to do it.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
I agree, I think there is more to all of this. He does have a drinking problem and she is addicted to the internet. He wants her to get a job but she resists. She's never been a "great" housekeeper, blaming it on "I have kids". But she could drag herself away from the computer and get things done with a little organization. Heck, if she were to go to work, I'd be glad to keep up the house work and kid stuff for her. We shall see. Thanks.
@NuttyMomma (901)
• United States
2 May 09
I think you know that you really need to have a heart to heart discussion with your daughter.good luck with that.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
3 May 09
Well, if you are living there, you could maybe help make sure some of these things are provided, and even if you are just over there visiting a lot of the time, it would still be appropriate to help in the Toilet Paper respect as well. (I know if it was me, I would.)
As for ther work situation, etc. there is not much you can do to try and change this. Getting a job is HARD to do, and making some extra from Sales can be a BIG issue as well. Plus with the economy and places being so picky unless someone is persistant sometimes places will not hire someone as well.
All you can do is be supportive, and offer help where you can. The rest has to be up to them. When they are ready for change, things will happen.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
3 May 09
Thanks for your thoughts. I will be helping as soon as I get some money coming in. I +agree very much with you. Maybe I can kind of nudge them into some good habits? Only time will tell.
@Amberina (1541)
• United States
2 May 09
I married and had kids at a very young age and I admit I was not a very good housekeeper. I did a lot of the same things your daughter does with the food an stuff. Only for me at the time it was talking on the phone or watching TV I didn't have a computer back then.
Anyway what I would do is if you have someone who can give you a ride into town I would buy some toilet paper and some other things that you like and then just keep them in your room. I would let the kids use the toilet paper they can't help it the way their parents live. Do you have someone else you could stay with maybe someone who lives on a bus line so you could look for work on the bus? Is there a welfare office where you could get some food stamps maybe money for a place to stay? I wish you luck on this I know your in a tough spot.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
Thanks for your concern. I know no one else here and there is no bus service around here. The food stamps issue is interesting, I don't know if I would qualify in that my son in law may make too much. I've never really thought about it, though. I will make it through this though, I have to. Thanks for your response.
@betsyraeduke (2670)
• United States
1 May 09
Perhaps you should tell him that if he doesn't pick up some toilet paper the next time he goes to the store that you will use his favorite shirt instead!.....Okay, I'm kidding, well, half way anyway...I'm not saying that you should actually use his shirt or anything. Of course this would be uncivilized and gross, but perhaps if he thought you would do something like that, he might be enticed to buy some toilet paper?...*shrugs* I don't know, I can see why the situation bothers you. I just don't have any solutions.
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@Bethany1202 (3431)
• United States
2 May 09
Wow, that is a horrible way to live. I agree and toilet paper is not even expensive. Plus, it only takes a moment to put food away. That's not very safe or sanitary.
My house isn't spotless or the cleanest in the world, that's for sure, but I do basic things such as putting leftovers away, wiping the counter after preparing food, providing toilet paper and keeping the rooms at least somewhat tidy as well as cleaning the bathroom every few weeks. ... Sorry your daughter is living in such conditions. Have you had a heart-to-heart talk with her by chance?
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
I would try to talk to her but she tends to get in a snit easily so I just let it got and vent my frustrations here. Hey it doesn't hurt here. Thanks for responding.
@sxrxnrr45601 (1171)
• United States
2 May 09
It is so hard staying with other people I Understand. Me and My b/f Had his friend and his friends g/f staying with us now I did not mind her so much we grew pretty close. But man my b/f friend is just useless he works and all but would never offer to give us any money we would have to ask him. He is very selfish. And only thought of his self. We ran into the TP problem as well and I just told him that he could go buy some or I would take a shet in his shoe and use his sock to wipe with he got the hint. I wish you the best of luck hun.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
Thanks, I will need it. Right now my nerves are frayed with all the kids noise and the dumb things they do.
@sagapo121845 (277)
• Philippines
2 May 09
I cant say anything but I think theres a problem in the house.Why cant he buy a toilet paper?I mean,even less fortunate can afford that.
Have you tried talking to your daughter?
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
No, not really. She really doesn't listen to anyone about anything. I've watched how she is and she just shuts out things.
@sharlahodges (813)
• United States
2 May 09
I do not understand kids now a day. They don't seem to mind that their house is a mess. My daughter is the same way. She seems to spend all day on the internet and lets the dishes in her kitchen pile high with dirty dishes. I can not go to bed at night with a dirty kitchen. All of my dishes are in the dishwasher and the kitchen is clean before I will go to bed at night.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
They could be sisters,LOL! I'm like you, I just can not stand a mess. I will freely say that my house is not perfect but this is ridiculous. I would rather get something done than sit around. I hate to dust so that is usually the last thing I do. I had three kids so I know how long it takes to do laundry and it is not days. I never, even now, leave clothes in the washer or dryer. I'm in and out. Leaving food out (with a cat in the house) is UGH. To think she will reheat the stuff on the stove the next day, yuck. Plus I don't know how many times when she does put food in the refrigerator it is not covered and dries out. They waste a lot of food. Like, you I do not leave dishes in the sink. Right now this morning the sink is piled high with them. When my husband and I were together I hand washed our dishes cause the dishwasher was not very good and for two people it was easier to just hand wash. That way the counters get cleaned too. I could go on but...Thanks for your comment.
@mhethess (379)
• Philippines
2 May 09
Hello, the best thing you can do is to ask the Lord for wisdom first before you have to have a heart to heart talk with your daughter first then to your son in law using a soft and encouraging voice and explain to them that you are concern about what is happening inside their house, what you can only say is just a suggestion if they don't like to do anything it's their problem. if you have a chance to transfer to your other children's house why not try.
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 May 09
I hesitate to talk to them since they took my suggestions badly the last time. But I have prayed about my own problems which to me are more important. I for quite a while was bitter and angry at my husband. But over the last couple of weeks something has told me to move on and gain my independence even if it takes a while.I will be a better person for it. I can only say it was God who put that in my heart. As irritated as I get, I think I can tolerate this knowing I will triumph and be a better person later. thank you for your comments.