Article needs new title
By Canellita
@Canellita (12029)
United States
January 12, 2010 2:09pm CST
So a while ago I mentioned I had crafted this great article (in my opinion) and when I tried to post it to helium the title had been closed. I forgot about it and today I redicovered it while looking through articles in progress and moving the ones that were completed to a different folder.
The article was for the debate "should couples live together before marriage." I looked around for similar titles but it occurred to me that I should just start a title so I can get the upfront and empty title bonus. I also considered posting the article to AC but they have gotten so fussy about what they consider to be unique I doubt it would be worth it.
Any thoughts?
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6 responses
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
12 Jan 10
Marriage - How to find out if you are compatible or combatible.
Reasons to live together before marriage
Reasons not to live together before marriage
How to in title seems to work good for Helium and AC. AC mostly looks at the article, because they will retitle it.
Does your article look at one side or both? If it looks at both sides of whether or not people should live together before marriage then you need a different title from what I suggested. LOL
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
13 Jan 10
It looks at both sides of the issue but it leans toward if you can commit to living together as if you were married you should be able to go ahead and make it legal.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
13 Jan 10
BTW, I did not receive notification that you responded to this discussion!
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
13 Jan 10
You've gotta watch out for MommaJ, she knows how to sneak in there without you noticing her! Actually I suspect it is your browser/mail provider. Mine often sends me messages in batches or late, but what can you expect from a free mail service?
I will just throw in my suggestion for the title:
"How Living Together is Preparation for Marriage"
or
"Is Living Together the Best Option If You Want to Marry?"
I think with the right title, you can surely get your article accepted. Just because the section is closed doesn't mean they aren't still interested in the topic. With all those weddings coming up in May and June, I think you should try and tie it to marriage somehow. They always like wedding titles!
@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
13 Jan 10
Hi Canellita,
i agree with you...i think there's a need to make a twist on the title. make it appealing to the readers. maybe i can consult my hubby for this. i have one in mind but i want to make sure about this. i will get back to you my friend.
wait--opinion poll: trying it out...before tying the knot what do you think?
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
13 Jan 10
I think that people should get married. I've been around long enough to know that if you're going to go through everything you have to go through to live with someone you are better off if you do it as a married couple.
There is a memoir version of the title but I am not interested in sharing my onw experience in a helium article.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
14 Jan 10
Helium accepted my new title right away. I have posted the article.
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@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
14 Jan 10
it's okay...there are other venues where you can share your thoughts and feelings about it. discovering each other's uniqueness, strengths and weaknesses will never end. for me, if you finally decide to get to live together then consider getting married first. you will not only be married with each other but god is there to bless you as a couple. a special blessing that will solidify the togetherness!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
18 Jan 10
I am not really sure what to suggest, but then again with this discussion being almost a week old you may have gotten suggestions and taken care of it by now. Well, I'd have to say the best bet would just be making a title like "Couples Living Together Before Tying the Knot"... It's simple, but maybe not a title already because most of the time I think people would just put "before getting married or Before marriage".
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
18 Jan 10
It worked out. I suggested a new title and helium approved it right away. You can find it under the Pros and Cons of living together before marriage.
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@greeneyedlady (1439)
• Netherlands
19 Jan 10
Hi Canellita...long time no see! As for thoughts about what you should do, since I Still have not joined you over there to write articles I really don't know exactly what you are talking about, But if I understand you correctly, then I would definitely Start a title in order to get the upfront and empty title bonus.
Sounds like an interesting article by the way, I would enjoy reading it! 
@greeneyedlady (1439)
• Netherlands
19 Jan 10
HI Again! I went to your profile and found where your articles are, so I will definitely read that article...along with others you have written, I am sure I am going to enjoy them! ;)
@greeneyedlady (1439)
• Netherlands
26 Feb 10
Hi back at you stranger and it has been a while since your last post, I don't know How I lost this e-mail in my box but then again If you saw my e-mail box you would know why immediately!! LOL
I hope you made the cut off date and got paid last time.
I think crocheting shawls is great. I am sure that they are very, sell for a good price and that you have more orders than you can shake a stick at so to speak...at least I hope so for you! My mother use to crochet shawls and everything else for me when I was young, unfortunately I was not able to learn how from her before she passed away and also unfortunately it seems to be somewhat of a dying art so you are very lucky that you know how to do it as you can make some very beautiful things as I'm sure you do! ;)
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
19 Jan 10
Hi stranger! Long time no correspondance! How have you been? Things worked out well with that article so I have a myLot task that was never posted that I want to convert into a full article and I'm looking at turning some of my discussion comments into articles as well.
I have been obsessing a bit over crochet as it is easier to make money in the real world a lot faster than I can on heilum but at least last month's passive income was enough to put me over the top with the upfronts for the few articles I posted.
I need to try and get in some more before the 25th's cutoff for new articles to be sure I make payout this time around as well, but I've started making shawls and I have been almost completely focused on that.
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@malamar (779)
• Canada
13 Jan 10
Helium is really looking for "similiar" titles these days. It is part of their new focus on SEO writing. Try something like "5 top reasons for living together before marriage" or "Pro's and Con's of living together before marriage" and one of them is sure to get accepted.
Again, some of these changes remain a mystery, but I have to admit my penny revenues have doubled since they have instigated the changes, so something appears to be working very well.
I recently tried experimenting a bit with these so called similiar titles and wrote to four titles all intitled something like - how to unclutter your house, how to live clutter free, how to unclutter your garage, why you should unclutter your living space. It seemed kind of goofy to me, but I'm goofy so I did it anyway.
To my surprise, two of the four were purchased as stock content, something I had never before achieved.
As for AC, I cannot comment since I don't currently write to that site - nothing personal, just not enough hours in the day!
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
13 Jan 10
I second that thought on not enough hours in the day!
The advantage of multiple titles on the same topic allows a niche writer to re-sell the same ideas over and over while establishing themselves as an expert. It also allows helium to stay competitive with other sites.
I have been thinking of proposing "The pros and cons of living together before marriage." Helium has a pros and cons title already for remaining in a sexless marriage.
@batcountry72 (219)
• United States
13 Jan 10
- Is chemistry the same as commitment?
- Why you should live together before marriage.
- Why you shouldn't live together before marriage.
- Why are traditional values important before marriage?
- The Cohabitation Test: Life before marriage.
Just brainstorming. I haven't read your article, so I don't know your point of view. Good luck.
@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
13 Jan 10
Actually, writing to both sides of the debate is probably a smart thing to do. People usually read what confirms what they already think, so if they are pro-living together, you will benefit, and if they are against living together, you will also have that audience!
Show me the money!
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
13 Jan 10
The article covers both sides of the debate of why you should or should not live together. Maybe I should make it into two articles; one for each side.
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@batcountry72 (219)
• United States
13 Jan 10
I can see where you would be tempted to split it into two articles. Especially if your submitting it to Helium, since they have relatively low word count requirement. Just make sure the "twins" are strong enough to stand on their own merits. It may be the difference between one strong article that can hold a reader, regardless of their point of view, or two thinner articles that don't draw either side into the subject because there isn't any argument. Readers like turmoil. On this particular subject people have very definite beliefs, usually grounded within a religion. By juxtaposing the arguments in one article you create momentum by fostering healthy debate. Just something to think about. It also leaves you open to write another, equally strong, follow up article that you can tie in to the first. Love & Luck.
