Education Versus Experience
By HULYO
@julyteen (13252)
Davao, Philippines
June 7, 2010 5:48pm CST
Maybe Discrimination is the root of this, when somebody treat you different specially, if you are new to the firm. I experience this lately with regards to my job. I am newbie to the company, my colleagues treat me different because I am hired superior than them. I have good educational background although less experiences related to my job now but I know my work. They work here for more than 10 years, of course a lot of experiences but in terms of paper works, ohh my god, most of them don't know how to write business correspondence. Don't know about grammar and also the correct spelling. I observed them lack very low in terms of paper works. At first it's very hard to get along with them but day by day I learn a little by little to adjust. I don't mind of them, what in my mind I will do my work in a right way and I make it it even without their help. It's really very hard at the beginning but later on you will be at yourself. Be confident of yourself and make all your best, don't depend go anybody if you can make it your own.
I know some of you here experience the same. In your own experience, how did you cope that up mate? would you like to share with us?
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5 responses
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
9 Jun 10
this is one problem i have in this office. i am not so new with this job and there are much more personnel/staff that came years ahead of me, and they really have good education over me. since we have two parts of employment here, the national and local appointments, i as one of the national is being assigned to some critical assignments or workload when the department do not allow the local employees to handle such work assignments. the department had mentioned that in due time, there will be new positions to be available for the national plantilla. and what i am afraid to happen is, i cannot apply for the new jobs, as part of a promotion if one of the requirements is education. in the philippine civil service, they do not allow to handle a position if the appointed employee or to be appointed lacks one of the number of requirements, even if you have more experiences with the kind of job or work you will apply for or you will be appointed to. i lack education but i am rich in experience, with this job at least.
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
9 Jun 10
What a coincidence post mate. Yes, it is very difficult if your office have this kind of what so called education is better than experience. Some company also look seniority than education. Nowadays, our government change it's way of hiring, they prepare to hire with good education background than experiences.
In my case, I have education but less experiences. It seems that there is a gap between me and my subordinate but I understand them. They might think and felt that I will be their superior if they won't make any move to bring me down. I hope I can endure the pressure of my work here. I felt difficult because they don't have a teamwork at all.
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
10 Jun 10
That is the worst things happened nowadays to our government. If you are not a fish of any politician even if you have both education and experiences still you are not qualified. "Backer" plays a major role now if you want to apply a position in any government position, in anytime this will also applied to some private institution.
The reason why I did not intend to apply for any government position although I consider myself as one of the fish on one of politician in our area. I am anticipating the future that if time comes your supported politician will be out of the office you will be also oust if you are "Quoterminos"!
Hope the system will change specially the new administration is coming!
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Jun 10
it is mandated by the civil service law, that each position job has corresponding qualifications. education and experience are just two of them. you cannot be appointed if one of the qualifications is lacking, you cannot get the job. but there are also some positions that education is required but experience is not required. in most cases, position or job in the government, civil service eligibility is always required. it's actually not that hard to get into civil service. as they say, you only need a backer.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
8 Jun 10
I am a Business Owner, and Manager. I do not hire University Grads because they know how it "should be, could be, and might be," but will not be competent with a lack of preceding experience, and their previous education will only be a hindrance to the job. I prefer young High School drop-outs, because their minds have not been filled with Educated Gibberish. With 30 years experience, I know my Business inside and out. There are no Educational Facilities qualified to teach students that can match these Qualifications. In the end, to be successful, an Apiarist has to be a teacher, to his employees, as well as the Manager and Operator of his business.
@starsailover (7829)
• Mexico
8 Jun 10
Hi bare hugs: I agree that University Grads are not totally prepared to work and take decitions but at the same time I think that they're not completely bad, a good graduated usually come with new innovative ideas so I think that they are important too in a factory to make a balance between experience and young people with their new ideas. Thanks for your answer.
ALVARO
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
9 Jun 10
@barehugs
Yeah mate, experiences plays a major role in dealing with a particular work than Education. You have a good strategy in hiring people but may in the first place if you hired those people that don't have enough educational background would be difficult specially during their probationary period. I agree you on that maybe it's applicable in any other way but what if your business entity deals with people such as hotels, real-state and any other high end technology firm. Do you still hired applicant from High School drop-outs? Maybe in a hotel you can hired them for roomboy but in higher position like managerial position, experiences is not enough, constructing business letters or correspondence is very difficult to them. I observe it here in our atmosphere. They knew on the operation but when the time comes our boss ask to submit written report. OMG! It's very disgusting.
@starsailover
I agree you mate, although fresh Grads don't have experience at all but in terms of theory they are full knowledge of it. Some manager prepare to hire fresh graduate because they won't demand big salary. Training of them in a few days is easy than training on those lack of education.
@xaint
You're right mate! It depends also the nature of their work correspond to their educational background. Many of us today work not on their field of specialization, I mean on their educational background.
Best Regards to all of you guys!
HULYO
@xaint7 (20)
• Philippines
8 Jun 10
I also agree to some extent to your answer but in my opinion these university only fill the minds of the student basic and general ideas of handling a business. they are only taught "theories of how it should be done". of course whatever they have learned would always vary from what type of business they delve into. thus would lead me to the point of starsailover which i also agree on. =D
@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
9 Jun 10
I can understand your feelings. I was a department head when I was just 23. I had to manage people older than I who had been there a long time. Some times it takes time to learn how to manage as a young boss.
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
9 Jun 10
This is not my first time supervise people in a particular job. I am 21 years old before and hired as supervisor of 80 men on our department. I am a fresh graduate that time but I had a 3 months experience of them as OJT. Many people get jealous on me because I got the position whom many want it before I came. They have experience but our manager wants education than experience. Time passed by all of them accept the truth, the position was not for them.
@rajaiv0810 (1012)
• Philippines
8 Jun 10
Hi there! Just a little similar on my part before but not really totally as the others are not under me but we are supposed to work hand in hand. It happened when I was still working in a big consumer company. I was a key account manager handling 2 biggest accounts in my city at that time. The girls, as we call them together with my colleagues are in charge for the warehouse stuff. Invoicing, dispatching of stocks, inventory, etc. They were not really very mean to me as I am also a girl but they were meaner to my other counterparts as they were all boys. They would make some delays on the invoicing ans sometimes when you would make some requests they wouldn't do it immediately. Then they would often say to us, that we have bigger salaries so why are we complaining with our target. If only they were on our side with the same salaries they would never complain and just hit the quota without a problem. Me and counterparts would just laugh at it because they don't know exactly what they mean. From the very fact that they were not chosen to be an account manager or specialist speaks about their capability of handling the pressure that we had before.
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
8 Jun 10
They easily say that, if they are in our part if we have higher salary than them they will not complain. I don't know but mostly it won't. Here we keep confidential our salary because they become lazy and let you do work in level to your salary. I hate this attitude but I am lucky it seems that they are good to me. I hope it will continue the same.
@starsailover (7829)
• Mexico
8 Jun 10
Hi july teen: For me both education and experience are important to make things work. It's important to know the theory to comprehend what your work is about and to give your best but at the same time, the more experience you get, the mopre easy you'll find your job because in every job there are some things that you have to learn with your own experience because they're not on the books. So I value a lot education but I think we have to respect the experience of the people that have worked for years in the same job. Thanks for asking us this question. Have a nice day.
ALVARO
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
9 Jun 10
Better if you have both but we can't have it at one time. Of course education first. Fresh Grads don't have any experiences with regards to any job but they have enough knowledge of the theory related to their specialization. If you don't have experience and also don't have enough education, it worst to an individual. You can use your education to acquire experiences. Time comes this both education and experience will compose on you.