I am still bothered by my doorbell ringing a few nights ago
By dragon54u
@dragon54u (31634)
United States
March 17, 2011 12:46pm CST
It was 11:30PM and I was still up. I always lock my screen so I didn't feel too uncomfortable opening the door a couple of inches, I thought maybe it was the cops or something asking about a neighbor's safety.
So there is a little homeless woman on the other side of the screen, I've seen her before. She's told me the same story for the past 3 years--homeless shelters turn her out because there is no room, she wants money to buy some food, nobody will help her, etc.
Remember the story about the man who was expecting a visit from Jesus? 3 times he turned away beggars and travelers needing help or food. When Jesus didn't show up he wondered aloud why and the answer was that He actually did show up--in the guise of those strangers.
I know I should not open my door at night, anything could happen. But I feel horrible about turning that woman away. It was cold that night and she seemed warm but...I called the police and asked that they check on her and maybe take her to a shelter but they could do nothing unless they actually caught her at my door causing trouble. So she didn't even get that.
I give quite a bit (for me) to my local charities to help people like her. She said they will not help her.
Would you feel bad? What would you have done?
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@sacmom (14192)
• United States
29 Mar 11
You're right dragon. Anything can happen. And sadly, it doesn't usually turn out good.
You definitely did the right thing. Like you, I would have turned her away as well. Sure, I would have felt bad, but I have my family to think of. I would never want to put them, or myself, in danger. I hate to say it, but I wouldn't even risk it for Jesus...especially in this day and age. With so much violence in the world I would rather not take a chance at opening the door so late.
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@sacmom (14192)
• United States
30 Mar 11
It is sad. However, we can never be too cautious when it comes to our lives.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
29 Mar 11
That is just so sad, that we have to be in fear of our lives just opening our doors.
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@titchy1231 (732)
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18 Mar 11
i would probably feel and done the same as you as i have 2 young children.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
If my children were still young I would not have even answered the door! If they were here now, though, I wouldn't have a problem as they are both towering, muscular giants now!
It is disconcerting to stare UP at your children when you keep remembering them as the sweet little cherubs you used to play blocks and cars with.
@titchy1231 (732)
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20 Mar 11
well i dont have that problem yet as my son is only 8. although it wont take long as i am only 5ft
@yoyo1198 (3641)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I keep very little money in the house; maybe a few dollar bills and a little loose change. I probably would have given her what I had which would have been less than $5. But I would not have let her into the house. People ringing doorbells after dark are always suspicious here. I too have a policy of not answering the door after dark and I think most of my neighbors are the same.
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@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
18 Mar 11
I would give her some food but not money as we don't know what they would actually buy. There are organizations that help the needy. I would help her find one.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I suggested that and offered to call someone for her but she was adamant that all the shelters had kicked her out because of lack of room. I find that hard to believe. I know our local Salvation Army even has people who will take in the homeless into their own houses when the shelters are full. I would have given her food but that meant opening my screen door and allowing access to my house. Plus, she has told me the same story for 4 years. The first year I gave her food and an address to a shelter and offered to drive her there, which she declined. I guess she prefers the streets.
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
18 Mar 11
Yes, there are people that prefer the streets. They may not be in their right mind. Ringing a doorbell at 11:30 at night proves that. If you ignore them they will go ring someone else's bell.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I am like you. I want to help but considering the evil that is about in the world, am leery. I think where I live it is easier to be kind. We don't have many vagrants and homeless. If someone would have come to my door and I knew that they were more or less a regular around the neighborhood, I would have handed out a sandwhich and perhaps a dollar or two and called the authorities.
Just a quick word about your wondering if she'd spend the money on booze and not wanting to be responsible; once the money leaves your hand, your good deed is done. YOU are not responsible if the person uses your kindness to do wrong. God views your motive, and not the results of it, as good.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
You're right about the money. But I give money to charities that are supposed to take care of her--if she'll let them. I don't buy the story about her being turned out for lack of space. This is a small town and she's only the second homeless person I've actually seen in 4 years.
Giving food meant opening the door and I've heard too many horror stories to do that. I still feel badly, though.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Mar 11
Poor thing is probably mentally ill. Shame that we can't do more to make sure these people are cared for, even if they refuse help. So many of them refuse help as part of their mental condition. The medical community's hands are tied, as you cannot force someone to take medication.
@Angelgirl16 (2171)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I don't know if you live alone, but to open your door at that time of night, without knowing who was there, was not a wise thing to do. I never open my front door for anyone before I use the peek hole to identify the person.
If it were the homeless person, I think they would have come before it got that late at night. I think it is awful that there are not enough homeless shelters to help these people out,especially on a cold night.
If I were you I would not beat myself up to badly, do to the fact that you don't know who was at your door. You really did the right thing for your safety.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I do live alone, except for my 2 dogs that are no use for protection, they just love everyone. We have shelters, even in a city as small as mine, and her story was not believable especially since I'd heard it from her several times before in the past years.
I have a peep hole but the man who used to own the house was 6'1" and I'm 5'3" and can't reach the peep hole!
@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
19 Mar 11
Personally anymore it is So sad when there continues to be so many out there needing help like this, and everywhere continues to turn them away. Most of the time a lot of these people are only wanting some Food, a warm place to sleep, and sometimes even just someone to talk too. I think if it was me, it would be a sign from God that here is a person I keep on sending for you to help and how can you help them? Right now there is more needing help than most people will ever know so for me I try and do what I can with the ones I know needing some help.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
19 Mar 11
I've been watching for her, I know she hangs around this neighborhood.
She is probably mentally ill. The ACLU turned these people out onto the street with their misguided lawsuit decades ago. If not for them, she would be in a hospital with medication, food, a warm bed and therapy.
If she's not mentally ill maybe I can do something for her--in the daylight when I don't feel threatened. Your remark about God sending that person again and again is exactly what I was thinking and what is bothering me.
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
17 Mar 11
One very cold morning, about twenty years ago I had a knock at my back door. I can hear it from my bed upstairs because the door is right under my bed. There was a young man, about seventeen. He was disoriented, thought he was in a different town, very drunk. I had him get in my van which was parked by the door. I called the police. They came out, but while I waited, I made him a cup of hot cocoa. All I could think about was that I would want someone to do that for my son. I think my kids were gone on a church trip. My husband was a truck driver. The police took him to his house, just few blocks away. I do not know why he was not locked up to sleep it off. They told me his name, and said it happened all the time. I might have given your little lady some food, but I do not think I would have let her in.
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
17 Mar 11
That would be a concern for sure.
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
17 Mar 11
I'd have offered her the use of my shed. That's better than nothing. We've plenty of blankets & supplies that could have made it comfortable. There's also plenty of work out there I could find for someone so they could earn their keep. So long as they prove that they're willing to work I'll help em out. Don't expect to lay around & get free room & board at my place.
P.S. my daughters boyfriend chose NOT to come stay with us when he found out my driveway needed grading. I'm not about to have a lazy musician crashing on my couch for nothing.
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
17 Mar 11
The main house would be off limits unless I'm actually there. If I'm home I'm not worried. I AM the thing that goes bump in the night. Try robbing me & I'll end up with your weapon, wallet & head on a silver platter ( though my wife would make me wash the platter afterwords ).
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
17 Mar 11
I don't have a shed, unfortunately, or I would have offered. I was just afraid to open the door to give her food and she wanted money anyway.
We've had a rash of assaults here where people ring your doorbell or stand by the road looking like they are in trouble. When you open the door or stop to help an accomplice appears and you're left badly hurt and much poorer. So I was leery.
I remember the days when I could have invited her inside to have a bite to eat and even let her sleep in my spare room. Those days are long gone.
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
17 Mar 11
Interesting...
We have around 100.000 homeless people in Australia. But you don't see them. Or rather, I have not seen them. Considering the social system we have in Australia, it is believed that many of them are homeless by choice.
I don't think that they would come knock at your door in Australia because people know that they receive money from the government.
One thing that I know, is that once you give them something, they will keep coming back for more. And after a while, it just become a nuisance that you cannot get ride off unless you call the police. And once you call the police, you risk having them coming back to throw a brick through your window.
That is why we have the concept of charities, so that we do not have to get personally involve. It is like rescuing a stray dog. Once you start looking after one of them, it is like adopting them. They start relying on you.
So unless you want to adopt a homeless person, it is best not to get involve. Some people deserve a break. But unless you know a little bit about them, it is hard to determine who you should help.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
17 Mar 11
I have cats that I felt sorry for when I first moved in. Now they visit me twice a day for their meals!
We, too, have private charities and government programs. In fact, our government programs are so comprehensive that they are helping us to go broke. Yet there are still those that choose to walk the streets--not many in this little town--and sleep in the cold. A new shelter was just built downtown, about a mile from here. I wish she would go there, I hope she did.
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
17 Mar 11
I agree I would worry that she would come back for more and more. And the day you turn her away again then what? You turn the cats away they'd meow and pester but eventually go away.... a person you may not be that lucky.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
18 Mar 11
Hiya dragon,
It´s hard to have such a good heart dragon but you really don´t know if the Woman could be unstable too.
It´s true that some of them will get turned away for some reason or another who knows but even though I would feel awful I would not even dream of opening the Door at that time of Night or Day come to think of it.
People here get turned away when they ask for Money it´s so heartbreaking to see this and the worst thing is they do not get any money either. I know that can be hard to believe but there are some People like that here.
But as someones says you can give money to someone and they might come back and ask for more too.
I am used to giving them food and if they are genuine they will not turn their Nose up at it either. It´s mainly bread and things that they can eat right away I give them because they obviously don´t carry a Cooker around with them either.
A lot of People here do not qualify for Government help and if they cannot produce all the right papers they have had it. Some women here are given a pension of 100 Euros a month to live on. Now you cannot pay the Rent with that so if you are over the age of being able to get a Job then you will find yourself on the Street unless you have Family that will take you in out of compassion.
I know of a very tragic story of one of those same Women she was just an ordinary Woman and now it´s another Story.
You have to put yourself first dragon think of your safety as well. I always have a chain on the Door as well even if I open it.
Take care now.xxx
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I really should get a chain as well as having the screen door locked.
We have shelters and programs for the homeless but since it became illegal to put people in mental hospitals that's when the homeless problem started. Most of these people are mentally ill and can't, by law, be forced to take medication. What a disservice to them, how cruel!
But we do have shelters and they don't turn people away unless they refuse to try to support themselves or they are addicts. She looked to be close to the age she could get a government pension or at least disability. I'll have to do some calling around and see what I can do if she ever comes around again--and she probably will, she's averaged once a year visiting my house.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
18 Mar 11
Hiya dragon,
Please get a Chain and put it on your Door. I hardly ever open my Door now even in the Daytime I look through the little looking thing on the Door you know the peep hole thing.
You are right she probably does or will get a Pension soon as well.
That would be a good idea for you to get some advice and see what you can do if she does turn up again like that.
There are so many that need medication and they don´t get it or won´t take it either that is another problem persuading them that they have a problem.
Take care now have a great Weekend.xxx
@garson (884)
• United States
28 Mar 11
Just like you I would feel bad the same way, but you did the right thing by calling the police to check on her. I don't know if the police ever check on her or not, but at least you did something. Another thing you can do is pray for her well-being, God's sovereignty and God's intervention.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
28 Mar 11
Well, I'm good at praying and it's the ultimate safe thing to do--everybody wins when you pray. But don't forget to thank Him for all your blessings at least as often as you ask for intervention for others!
@dreamsharmin (2281)
• China
24 Mar 11
We all should be very careful to open the door specially in the night. That's why when my door is knocking by some one or doorbell ringing then before open the door i just see who is the person and if the person is unknown then i don't open the door ask them why they knock the door and what they wants.
I think all door must have this system.
Good luck!
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
24 Mar 11
I don't plan to open the door anymore, even though the screen door is locked. I was just so startled when the bell rang, I thought perhaps there was some sort of family emergency that the police were coming to tell me about. Later, I realized that the police don't do that anymore, they just telephone you!
I will have to put a little stool by the door so that I can use the peep hole. The former owner of this house was very tall and I am fairly short and can't reach the viewing port!
@Kirinx (1688)
• United States
5 May 11
Wow i havent heard that story about Jesus.its interesting.
No you did the right thing Im actually admiring you right now
because of your courage.with the world and people being so crazy and violent
I would be nervous about answering my door.I prolly would of done the same thing
but since Im worried about strangers I prolly would of gave her what i could by passing it through the window.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 May 11
I have no window to pass through that would be safe. We have a lot of home robberies here that start with some "harmless" person coming to the door. Still, I have seen this woman around for a few years begging and although I know there are people to help her I feel sorry for her. I donate to charities that help people like her but they have to ask for the help. I wish she would go to those organizations and get shelter but I can't force her.
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
19 Mar 11
I would not have opened the door at that time, unless I knew who it was. I can see why you are bothered by this. If I did open the door, I probably would have told her that I did not have any money, and ask if I could call someone for her to take her to a shelter.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
19 Mar 11
That's what I should have done, offered to call a shelter. I will do that if she ever comes by again. If I see her in the daytime and she is alone I will offer her a meal but late at night I am cautious.
@khithi17 (762)
• Philippines
18 Mar 11
Oh my God. You must really be a good person. If that ever happen to me, I would probably be so scared. scared enough not to open my door. I don't know what will happen if I let a stranger inside my house in that time of day. Nowadays, a lot of people are able to pretend to be someone they're not. It is very much dangerous to let a stranger inside your house especially in the middle of the night.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I'm not a particularly good person, Khithi. I did think that at that time of night it might be an emergency. My screen is kept locked and it is very strong so I was safe, I just would not open the screen because there could have been someone else lurking out there that I could not see. I do hate turning anyone away that needs help, though. I was in her shoes once.
@cream97 (29086)
• United States
19 Mar 11
Hi. dragon54u. That is nice of you that you have a generous heart to see about this woman. Most people are not like this at all. Knowing me, I would have contacted the homeless shelter and tell them my situation. Surely the organization would know whom to contact and how to. It is very sad that the police will not help homeless people. It is a shame. What if one day they would become homeless themselves? Surely they could have made a way to see that this woman gets the assistance that she needs. I mean, she has been like this for a very long time. You have talked to her and she has told you the same story for the last three years and no one at the police department cared enough to talk to her??? This is so sad. I pray that God will help this woman. We have homeless people that live in my hometown too. I saw a man recently picking trash out of the trash can. After he chose what he wanted, he replaced all of the other trash back into the trash can so neatly. My husband said that he has even seen a man digging in the trash can outside in our front yard. This is a very sad situation and I can't believe that the Law Enforcement does not see homeless people as a great concern. Waiting for them to start trouble is just absurd. Most of the homeless people are not troublemakers, they are just hungry and they want a safe and a clean place to stay. Jesus, help them!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
19 Mar 11
I want to help everyone I see in trouble, that is my curse and my blessing. I saw the woman a couple of days ago and waved to her but she did not see me. If she came in the daytime I would invite her in--she has always come at night and there have been instances where a person opened their door to someone and another unseen person came in and hurt them.
Robbery? Please!! I have nothing of value. I don't want anything of value, only value to the heart. But my life? My sons would be devastated if I were murdered or injured. If I see this woman in broad daylight I will talk with her and see what we can do.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I've only had an incident like that once in the 59 years I've been a city dweller. A man came to my door and asked for a quarter (for a cup of coffee, I think). I laughed because I'd just been asking myself what I'd do if that happened. I tried to apologize and gave him the quarter. This was over 50 years ago in a different city and has not happened since. If it happened now, like you, I'd call the police. Panhandling is illegal here.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
Back then we could give freely and not worry about it, today it's a different world. I guess I'm living in the past. Back when your incident happened you probably could have asked him in and had coffee with him, today he'd rob you.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
18 Mar 11
i would likely not ask her in if i was alone. i might ask her to back up and toss a few bucks out the door real fast and relock it. i would tell her sorry, i just dont trust who i dont know and leave it at that. these days anything can happen. even in broad daylight, much less night. its possible they wont help her at shelters as they know something you dont about her.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
You're right, Bunny, maybe they do know something at the shelters that I don't know. Luckily, the weather has warmed up and she's no longer in danger of freezing. But I feel bad for her. She's obviously not starving but I know what it's like to be hungry for days. That's what makes me feel so badly--but I never asked anyone for charity even when I was sleeping in a desert wash and going without food. She's been homeless since I've lived here and I'm thinking it must be voluntary or she's so mentally ill that she doesn't know that life can be different. And I feel worse, thinking like that.
What an awful world we've allowed it to become, when we can't help someone who needs it.
@Eugene126 (124)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I would also feel bad if I'm in your situation but we can't just entertain strangers specially at night. I understand your concern about that woman and there's nothing wrong in helping others but we have no way of knowing what could happen if you let her in. It would be better if you call the proper authorities that takes care of homeless people so that they can take care of her.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
18 Mar 11
Yes, you are right. I pay taxes and give to charity to help those like her and I don't understand why she won't take advantage of those agencies.