Livie In NY~ Having More Difficult Time Coping With 9/11 Anniv ThanThought...
By Opal26
@Opal26 (17679)
United States
September 12, 2011 2:41am CST
Opal here~Don't know if this subject has been overdone, just know I need
to vent. It's now 9/12 & I've had an extremely difficult and depressive
day dealing with living in NYS and reliving the "Anniversary of 9/11".
I'm sure most of you are sick of hearing about it, but it's personal to me
(and, yes, I'm one of the lucky ones), but still I'm having PTSD~ The memories
had started coming back about where, when and how I found out and how explicitly vivid the day was still in my mind. I was at work, found out by phone...etc. I worked down the hall from an FBI Office and across the hall from a CIA Office (who had an Office also at 1 World Trade- 7th Floor-their employees all got all got ok) I worked at a Law Firm at the time. I got the first call when the first plane
hit Tower One from one of the Attorney's wives and then she screamed tht the
another plane had hit the second Tower. I repeated this out loud. Then the phones
rang off the hook (the office wasn't even officially open yet). Finally the FBI
Office told us to "get out of the building"~I just wanted to go home and I did~
The nightmare went on. I got a ride home, turned on the TV to watch in horror.
I live only 45 minutes by car from Manhattan and we thought we could almost smell
the smoke. Me and my gf from across the street just cried and and were scared at
what was to happen next. The rest is now history...I have a Flight to Florida to see my Mom on 9/20/11. I told her I can't come. Thankfully she understands. I am
terrified to get on a plane once again. I didn't think about it when I booked the
flight, but now with the terrorist threats I am once again scared to step foot on a
plane. Thanks for listening...Responds as you feel fit...
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19 responses
@bluemoonpavilion (4658)
• Singapore
12 Sep 11
Hi Opal,
I feel so sad that you have to go through something so terrible, I was crying as I watched the programs yesterday on National Geographic. Even though I lived on the other side of the globe, the feelings of horror and sadness are universal. Your fear of planes and even trains is understandable. Don't force yourself, just give yourself time to adjust your mentality again and eventually you will be able to overcome it. If it provides you relief to talk about it, come into mylot, I'm sure there are many people here who will provide a listening ear and give you support. At least you will have mine. Take care~~hugs and kisses
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi bluemoon~ And thank you so much for your kind words and support. I
shouldn't be complaining because I wasn't even close to the site physically,
but I did know people that were and people who did lose friends and family.
I appreciate your listening to me, even though I feel sort of silly being
so dramatic~ back at ya!
@bluemoonpavilion (4658)
• Singapore
19 Sep 11
No, you are not being silly nor dramatic, I'm sure there are many people who share your feelings. Do take care!
@moondancer (7431)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hello dear, you went through hell that day and for days after. You have a right for it to stick in your mind and to affect you. It affects all of us some in different ways, actually many different ways.
My daughter and I had just gotten the children off to school. We just sat down to watch tv as usual in the morning to get the days weather and to hear what happened the day and night before.
We heard as it hit the tv first. Then we watched on tv as the second plane hit. We both sat here glued to the tv and crying for all that was lost and for our country being attacked.
I fly a few times a year and my husband flies many many times a year so this is never far from my mind, will they take his or my plane. But I try not to let it rule me and what we do. We must go on for ourselves and for the ones that we lost.
Hang in there girl and be strong! hugs....
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@moondancer (7431)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Not at all, a "big baby". You feel the way you do and others feel the same way too. The thing is is must not let these people ruin our lives or rule them either. We need to know about the threats to be precautious but be real too and not let these people and their threats rule our lives.
If we get so scared that we stay home and do nothing then we are allowing them to rule our life. I refuse to do this. I will do as I wish and yet be careful and watchful at the same time yet not let them scare me or ruin my life.
I am a free American and I won't let them take that from me! I'm free to do as I please and go where I wish, they won't ruin that for me. I will live my life the way I want to without their influence on what I choose to do!
Strong statements! Yes they are, because I'm proud to be who I am and where I am and they will not take that away from me!
Now sweetie you gear up to take your life back and don't allow them to take your joys from you. Don't let them mess with your life!
@missybear (11391)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi Opal26, I can imagine how horrible it must have been being so close to the actual place.
I've always been terrified of flying and 1 of my worse fears are being hijacked..
I probably never see Germany again {maybe when I'm ready to die I just get on a plane and take my chances} but I'm not even close to being ready yet.
My German Folks are flying in on the 15th and I know they always a little worried especially since it's such a long flight, almost 12 hours.
I hope you'll get back on a plane again someday, otherwise you be stuck just like me
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi ladies~ I'm sorry to have scared you even more. But, I really feel
so bad because I have a chance to get myself on a plane next Tuesday,
since I made the Reservation without thinking about the date and I
know if I don't go now I might not be able to make myself do it ever
and I really need to go see my Mom. Some people think nothing of
flying again and others are terrified! My Mom says she understands,
but she thinks I'll get over it in a month or two. The latest information
on "Terror Threats" is they are "planning to strike on ll/9/ll~ They
supposedly put that on the "White House's Facebook Page"~
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi Opal! I can imagine how much the attacks effected you. I was pretty traumatized and it wasn't even in my city. I remember getting on a plane after the attacks and I was terrified. I thought to myself over and over...they will not win..they will not win. I knew they just wanted to strike terror in people and ruin as many lives as they could. It sure doesn't help that there were more threats.
Take care and hang in there.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi Jen~ I feel sort of stupid, but I can't help feeling afraid all over
again. I haven't cancelled my Flight Reservation for 9/20 to Florida yet,
but I can't seem to "see" myself going to Laguardia Airport (one of the main
NYC airports) and getting on the plane right now knowing that there are definite
threats looming at anytime for NY specifically and Washington in particular.
My Mom knows how scared I am and understands, but I'm afraid it might be a long
time again for me to get on a plane! It's just not right! I can't even take
the train because I'd have to go to NYC and the train systems are a target too!
I just feel so mixed up and angry and scared all over again right now!
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
12 Sep 11
Hiya opal,
Opal, that must have been really terrifying for you. I just felt for you so much reading this.
This leaves me without much to say as its such a thing that so few People have been through I did not know that you had been through that.
We have lived Bomb threats here that have actually taken place I used to work in a place in England that was always a target for Bombs threats as well and we always had to practice a safety routine most times and actually evacuate the Buildings for the just in case.
But what you have lived is the real thing all I want to do is hug someone who has been through that just give them a big hug.
Because I can`t put all that what I saw that Day into words it just leaves struck dumb well at least it did me.
Also for you having to live there too it must be a constant reminder of it all.
Me I donĀ“t know if I will ever get back on a Plane again either as Spain was hit as you know and the Bomb threats here are caused by a radical Group called ETA.
You must have nightmares about all that I guess and if you do it makes you relive.
Have to say although I lived around the Bomb threats the nearest one was two Streets away and it cost three National Policemen their lives it was right outside a College for Students as well across the Road from them.
I also lived in a small Town where they had a stronghold of some sort not that that ever bothered me much but to this very Day I can still here the noise of when that Bomb went off and how loud it was and how everything shook.
So I only know from the outside because we have been by places that have been blown up as well like Banks and places like that.
So very glad that you came out of it all alive and well albeit with those problems to sort out.
Big hugs to you opal it really moves me to write this as its something I never mention anymore to anyone.
Take care now and hope that state of angst passes quickly and now.xxx
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi lovingangel~Sounds like you've been alot closer physically than I actually
was to any bombs. I was across the bridge and far enough away to not physically
feel the affects, but psychologically closer than I wanted to be. Just being
a New Yorker and knowing how beautiful those Towers were against the skyline
and seeing how empty and scary it became was just beyond words, even now. I haven't been back to NYC since. I want to go see the Memorial and hopefully one day will. It took me 7 years to get back on a plane and now I don't know how I'm going to go see my Mom if I can't do it again. I know I have to because she's 81 and I need to go see her. It's just that the threats are inconclusive, but real and travelling right now from NYC is just too scary and will be for the next few
months or I don't know how long according to the what the Government Agencies
are saying. I hate that I feel like this again because that means that "they"are once again getting the "power" which they certainly don't deserve!
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@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
30 Sep 11
Hi dearest Opal, thats really a touching post. Sorry for the late answer from here but for the last two weekends I was so floored from work that I didnt get much done at all and now I play catch up a bit.
I work for Workers Compensation here in Germany and so I first had to sort of translate the term PTSD, thats a Post traumatic Stress Disorder. yes dear Opal that experience was very likely to cause a PTSD so I hope you got good meds and a good therapist as well.
As far as that flight to your Mom is concerned, I can understand you that you dont want to fly there right now. And I am really glad you mom understands too.
hugs from me ((((Opal))))
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 Oct 11
Thanks again Ritter for being so kind and understanding. I will fly to see
her as soon as I can. It's just that now that I've decided when I wanted to
go, my boyfriend needs hernia surgery and I can't leave him home alone. My
Mom doesn't know we're still togeter (long story) so I am torn about when to
go! And he won't postpone the surgery for a week. He's not making it easy
on me and he's telling me to "go anyway". He has no idea how painful and
incapacitated he's going to be and when I try to tell him he doesn't listen!
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
1 Oct 11
Hi Ritter~ It's never too late to post a response and thank you for
your kinds words. Sorry you had to look up the translation. I will
have to be more mindful of those that speak other languages. The
first time I did fly after 9/11 was 7 years later and I was seeing
a therapist who did help me get through it. And then when she had
to fly she told me she was all nervous thinking about me!lol
I made my own therapist scared to fly! Ooops!
@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
1 Oct 11
hi dearest Opal, nooooo please dont be sorry for using the shortcut. I didnt look up what a PTSD is as I work for Workers Compensation here in Germany so I am familiar with terms, and thought that must be it...... just wanted to ask whether I am right.
Wish I could help you overcome the fear of flights as your mom would sure be happy to see you. There is sort of de sensiblizing against such fears has your health care and the doctors ever thought of that.
@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
13 Sep 11
I can see how you would be feeling this. I had family in OKC when the Murrah Building was bombed and I know lots of people who struggled with it, and 9/11 is just so much bigger. I hope you can find a way to visit your mom, maybe that does not involve flying.
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@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
13 Sep 11
Just sympathizing, Opal. It is hard when you are near where it happened, and then it is all you see in the news. You need some distance from this for now. Not sure how you can get it though.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
12 Sep 11
WOw you were close so sad that it happened at all .
After I found out it was real and not a Movie plot I just set here therest of the day and watched the tv aftr the girl I was chatting with that could see out her office window what was going on we chatted several hours then she decided she needed to find her way home. took 2 weeks to hear form her again.
Y can always drive to FLorida really dont take to long if ya dont stop every where.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
13 Sep 11
Hi Lakota~ I don't drive or that would be my first and now only option.
I was thinking about taking the train, but that also would entail me
to go into Manhattan to get the train and there is a "high alert" on
rail travel too. So I don't know what I'm going to do since my two modes
of transportation are both being guarded seriously right now.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
13 Sep 11
I still get shocked when I see those images on Tv. And I live in Winnipeg, MB. I do not know anyone who was murdered in the Twin Towers. So I can understand how you feel, being close to the situation and having friends and acquaintances who ere killed, not to mention your health was effected by the smoke and pollution of that event. And not knowing if a terrorist is on the plane with you. Those TSA pat downs do not help as it seems that they go after elderly grandmothers rather then the real terrorists, so it is a high chance that the latter would get through. I do not blame you. I have for years planned to visit New York but when I heard that they were searching and probing peo;ple who were obviousy not terrorists and trying to avoid profiling, I was sure that they would let one of the terrorists get through.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
13 Sep 11
Hi suspenseful~ It took me 7 years after 9/11 to fly again. I got
used to the "airport security", especially leaving from NYC's
larger airports. It isn't pleasant, but I know it's necessary,
although some of the things that have been reported that the TSA
have done was definitely uncalled for. But, again they are just
trying to prevent any incidents of terrorists getting on a plane
even though I think they do pick on people they really know aren't
going to be a threat to anyone!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
18 Sep 11
While the events of 9/11 has affected all Americans, can't help thinking it effects us more who live in the NY area, and I live even closer to Manhattan than you do. When this "present" 9/11 approached I felt very apprehensive, it was like I was "sensing" the mood of people, and I happen to be one of those "sensitive" people meaning I can "pick up" moods, vibes, whatever you want to call it.
I'll never forget how the mood was for instance for a good long time after Sep. 11, 2001--one would walk on the street and people had haunted, scared expressions on their faces, and if the slightest noise occurred everyone practically dropped to the ground thinking it was a bomb going off, when it was only a car back-firing.
9/11 really did change everything. While many other countries have dealt with terrorism for decades (like Northern Ireland, Middle-East)--9/11 showed Americans that we weren't immune to terrorism and our lives have never been the same.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
18 Sep 11
Hey pye! Great to hear from you, as alway! I had that same sort
of sick "sixth sense" too, especially on the Anniversay. I think
that is what made me so uneasy and extra upset. It felt to me
like I had "gone back in time" and it was ten years ago all over
again. I got all panicy and knew I couldn't get back on a plane
with all the "threats and warnings". Not being a "good flyer"
to begin with I told my Mom how I felt and she said she understood
and didn't want to make come if I was that anxious. She told me
to wait until I was more comfortable flying again. (After 9/11
it too me 7 years to get on a plane again). I have some health
issues that really may make me cancel the trip anyway so I may
have a valid reason not to be able to go anyway.
@celticeagle (168420)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Sep 11
I cannot begin to imagine what you folks in NYC must go through everytime you are reminded of the circumstances of 9/11. PTSD would just be one of many things I would encounter. I have panic attacks and am on medication for it. If not I would probably have had some stress yesterday. Programs were on every station and talk about all around. I didn't watch any of it. I was out of work when it actually happened and spent days transfixed by the news cast telling the country story after story of families and all the rest. I had enough of it then.
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@celticeagle (168420)
• Boise, Idaho
14 Sep 11
Well, I am glad we both made it through. I don't even listen to the daily news because I get so upset. Take care.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
13 Sep 11
Hi celtic~ I tried not to "see" anything, but couldn't stay away from
my computer! I didn't watch tv, but ended up watching everything anyway
on the Internet. I don't live in NYC, but I live in Yonkers, NY which
is 45 minutes away and I did know people with friends/family who worked
in the Towers or close by. My bff's brother worked across the street.
Just living that close and not knowing what was going to happen next
or where was beyond frightening. I already take meds for anxiety too,
and this didn't help my already anxious and depressed mental state of
mind.
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@mydogshadow (11)
• United States
14 Sep 11
We all, I am sure think that you being in close contact as you discribe is a frightful experience and make out how ever need be.... I will pray for you dear, so you will ammend to get over your fright so you can fly again. Ask God to keep watch over you as you wish a visit to spend time with your mother, and maybe friends and family. Thanks for sharing, May the Lord give you strangth...
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
16 Sep 11
Hi my dogshadow~ Welcome to mylot! Thank you for your kind words. It
is just something that as an American and a New Yorker that I have
tried to learn to live with. I love my Country and my State and am
proud to live here. I have always had a "fear of flying" even before
9/11 and that only made it worse for me. I didn't fly for 7 years and
the I did and now I don't know how soon I will fly again. Thank you for
your prayers too.
@AmbiePam (94045)
• United States
12 Sep 11
I had no idea your circumstances when that happened. It seems like I've been on mylot forever, but 9/11 was way before I found mylot and way before I met you. With those surroundings I can't even imagine the pressure cooker. I don't blame you for canceling the trip. We can tell ourselves all we want we will be fine, but that doesn't really do a lot for our peace of mind. I wish I was there to give you a hug.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi Amber~ I didn't realize the date or how I was going to react when
I booked the flight. My Mom understands, since she knows I'm not
the best "flyer" to begin with. The new terror threats now have
started all over again because of what was found when Bin Ladin
was killed and the Government kept it quiet until now. Apparently
the threats have gotten more specific and serious and the targets
are again aimed at NY and Washington, or so it seems. I'm just
too scared to get on the plane knowing what I know right now. The
news here is probably more specific than what others are hearing.
My Mom didn't know what I was talking about, but she knew I was
scared enough to not fly right now and with good reason. Thanks
for your support.
@BarBaraPrz (47693)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
12 Sep 11
Hey, Opal, nice to see you, even under these circumstances.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Last night I watched it all over again on the History Channel....and I almost got sick seeing it all over again. I can't imagine how it must have been for you! I didn't remember alot of it....but when the twin towers fell...I just started crying. They did a remarkable job of reviewing what happened. I can see why you can't get on a flight. I go to Germany next June and watching last night made me a bit hessitant too....I can't imagine what you went through being so close to what happened!
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi jill~ Like everyone else that has commented here, I didn't know what
was going to happen next. I was living alone and as soon as they let me
leave my job to go home and watch tv to "see" what was going on 45 minutes
from where I live I just didn't know what to think, or how to react or
what was going to happen next. Just didn't realize that watching and
seeing it again would have such a profound affect on me.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
12 Sep 11
Opal26,
Let me just say that 9/11 does have its ramifications and I am sad at how much it had gotten into nice people like you.
Other than trying to move on from your depression and fear of flying, I really hope that you would try hard to take the first step forward to dealing with them. Because there is nothing that will help you other than yourself which I hope you will realize this. I know it is not easy but you have to deal with it somehow in order to get out of this rut.
Like you, I was shocked and could not help feeling paranoid even when I board on the planes to travel. I was even very easily agitated with unattended bags in the airports but I just tell myself that if it is my time - then it will be, otherwise enjoy as much of the day or it (that I am doing) as I can. Knowing that my reaction will cause a chain of other reactions, I just left those thoughts aside and move on.
On the anniversary, I have to say that it was indeed a very emotional day for everyone and I even heard that there was a threat waiting to take place at the memorial too. I am just glad that it was incident free. However, I just cannot understand some of the insensitive signs on the ground, since this is a memorial event. I felt they could actually voice it somewhere else and/or another time.
I hope that through this America will not stop or regress back with their national security and that they would take every threat information seriously. Pardon me, but 9/11 was just another Pearl Harbor to me and I hope mediocrity ends with 9/11.
P.S.
I hope you will get over your feelings and fly to Florida soon to be with your mother. Take care.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
12 Sep 11
Hi sky~ I know that I probably am overreacting, but at this point
and time I just can't get past my "fear of flying", at least right
now. It's too soon for me to get on a plane next week and especially
to fly out of one of NYC's largest airports. I'm just too freaked
out right now. I hate for "them" to have "won" again, but I need
some time to deal with the latest threats. I'm not comfortable
flying ever so this is just too soon to try to push myself even
if I am overreacting.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
12 Sep 11
I am so sorry that you experienced this Opal. So very sorry. Friends of mine out here lost their daughter as she was in the FBI Building. We did not know what to do so opened up our Church for an ecumenical service and told all the hotels so USA citizens came in droves. all we could do was to pray and try to console them. Not much I know. We lost 17 Jamaicans in total. May all the souls of those killed rest in peace and may perpetual light shine upon them. Amen.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
13 Sep 11
Hi cyn~ Sorry about your friends loss. I worked on the same floor
as an FBI Agency in White Plains, NY and they closed our building
and about an hour later. I was working for Lawyers at the time
and of course, they weren't going to let us leave. We even had to
go back to work the next day. The days that follow were strange
enough, but every now and then the elevator doors would open and
there would be an officer in combat gear with a rifle pointed
right at us! That was the "fun" working on the same floor with
an FBI Agency and a CIA Agency across the hall.