why we need to pray if God already know what every thing?
By Jhovarie
@Jhovarie (1168)
Philippines
23 responses
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
12 Feb 12
Prayer is not just for requesting things that you desire. Prayer is to ask for His forgiveness for our sins and to praise Him for the blessings that He has given us. It matters not that He already know what our needs are, it matters that we have faith and trust in Him that He will answer our prayers.
@sishy7 (27167)
• Australia
12 Feb 12
100% agree. Btw, I'm just wondering if the content of our posts involve something on religion; then do we tend to get lower ratings? I notice you have quality posts in my opinion; but you have a "7" inside your star. And both this discussion starter and myself have only a "6". Any correlation there, do you think?
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Thank you sishy, that was very nice of you. I try to make sure all of my posts are of good quality.
I am glad someone was able to answer the questions about the stars and ratings. I had no clue. I just come here to chat and share opinions and learn things (like what the stars are for).
@maidangela7349 (1191)
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13 Feb 12
It is nothing to do with any god. The prayers are for the person praying as it makes them feel better. Also if someone knows they are being prayed for it may make them feel better but there is of course nobody such as a god or super being actually listening
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Prayer has Everything to do with God. I agree that people pray to make themselves feel better, but that is not the only reason we pray. We pray to converse with God.I believe that He does exist and I think the evidence of His existance is all around us if we are willing to open our eyes and hearts. I am saddened for anyone that does not believe in God so I pray for the nonbelievers too.
I am in no way trying to insult you, but I am curious. What do you beleive in? Do you believe in any "higher power"?
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
I do not live in a middle class life. We all have our struggles and short falls in finances. There are a lot of people here that are homeless, starving, sick people here to that can not be blamed for their situation. This wonderful God has kept them alive thus far, and has sent people like yourself to help.
Please do not be condescending to me and presume to tell me what to do. I am an adult with ample ability to make my own decisions as to what I believe in. I am perfectly aware of the needs of others in this world. I see what IS there, and I call Him God. You are free to believe as you do without ridicule from me, so please give me the same respect.
@Triple0 (1904)
• Australia
12 Feb 12
Well yes God does know everything but it wouldn't hurt to have a conversation with God. To me praying is like having a talk with God rather then letting him guess what we want, we tell him. You can praise or ask for forgiveness or share your hopes with God. Praying just brings you closer and shows that you still have faith in him. He may know what we are thinking but it wouldn't hurt to engage in casual conversation? God is always by your side and I always pray before I go to bed.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Triple, I like the way you phrased that "have a conversation with God". I think when we pray,that is how we should view it. I don't believe He has to guess what we want from Him, as I believe He already knows what our needs and wants are. He just wants us to have faith and believe that He will provide for those wants and needs if they are in accordance to His will for us.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
13 Feb 12
First a Christian should pray to follow the example of Jesus.Jesus came here to take our sins and to teach us what to do and how to do it.Jesus was the Word of the Father he didn`t needed to pray for Himself.But he prayed as an example for us.
Second Jesus taught us how to pray.The prayer starts like this OUR Father.
Can you believe that ? Jesus didn`t told you to say My Father but Our Father.Which means you should pray for everyone and not only for yourself.Even if you don`t have a problem there is someone else who needs help.And again he said " Give us this day our daily bread ".He didn`t said Give me today my daily bread.
Third you pray to purify your soul."Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. " Psalm 51 is one of the most beautiful prayers.
And you pray to God because that means to believe in God.Just like you wear a name wherever you go the same you are a Christian or in your case a Muslim wherever you go.You are what you are and you love God more than anything else no matter where you are.So you want to be with God all the time.Apostle Paul teaches you that you should pray unceasingly (also read Psalm 34 "I will bless the LORD at all times: his praise shall continually be in my mouth. " ).
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
We are suppose to pray for everyone, but that is not what is meant by the word "our" in the Lord's Prayer. "Our" refers to the fact that we are all His children and share a common God.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
iuliuxd I was just giving my opinion. I do not know about this person whom you refer. I do not put stock in what other people say about what God means or says. I read it for myself and let Him speak to me for Himself.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
13 Feb 12
deedee you must know that before us there were other people living in this world who answered those questions.One of them was John Chrysostom and those are his words :
"He teaches, moreover, to make our prayer common, in behalf of our brethren also. For He says not, “my Father, which art in Heaven,” but, “our Father,” offering up his supplications for the body in common, and nowhere looking to his own, but everywhere to his neighbour’s good.
And by this He at once takes away hatred, and quells pride, and casts out envy, and brings in the mother of all good things, even charity, and exterminates the inequality of human things, and shows how far the equality reaches between the king and the poor man, if at least in those things which are greatest and most indispensable, we are all of us fellows.
For what harm comes of our kindred below, when in that which is on high we are all of us knit together, and no one hath aught more than another; neither the rich more than the poor, nor the master than the servant, neither the ruler than the subject, nor the king than the common soldier, nor the philosopher than the barbarian, nor the skillful than the unlearned?
For to all hath He given one nobility, having vouchsafed to be called the Father of all alike."
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
12 Feb 12
We know that God know every thing?
I do not accept a reasoning as God is all knowing.
This is not diminishing God by saying so. We know, we know! We say we know but I think we are arrogant to think that we know. How can we know God if we do not seek God but only presume to know from our own understanding or think because of our own reasoning that we have God all figured out?
My understanding comes from the following source. You can pray this way... "Our father.."
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Going on the premise that we are defining "all knowing" as advanced notice,I agree with you. I believe that God does know all. I do not believe that our future is written (except in as far as the Book of Life goes) because we are given the ability to make our own choice. I believe that God knows what choices we will make before we do.
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
12 Feb 12
I'll take your comment as a compliment - thank you.
To say, "know everything" can be thought of in different ways.
God does not "know" a lie. God can not lie and incapable of doing so. This is not an inadequacy but a strength. In this discussion, I think "all knowing" may refer to an advanced knowledge before it actually happens. I believe the book of our future is not written. Decisions still are an option to enact and this is achievable by God's will. This means that prayers can be acted on and that what is best is a concern and has not already been decided on. I believe it is this way because God did decide to create free will by design.
@JustAUser (31)
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13 Feb 12
In short, you do not need to pray at all if we set God at the standard of all knowing because He knows what we want, how we want it, and when we want it. However, some people might want to pray to make it feel more real like a commenter before me stated or show off your devoutness like another commenter has said. There is no need but there is a desire and there is a current trend to fulfill wants irregardless of needs.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
HI just. I believe that we are suppose to pray. As mentioned in an earlier post, Jesus prayed to the Father, so would that not indicated that there is a need to pray? God knew what was on Jesus' heart and mind, but He still prayed. I also think that since we are commanded to pray, there has to be a need to do it.
@JustAUser (31)
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13 Feb 12
Jesus praying could have been a way to ease a population into an all knowing deity. Christianity spread throughout the Roman Empire but the prevelant, polytheistic religion had fallible gods that were as flawed as humans. Also, since I don't know enough about any given sect of any religion, I can't comment on being commanded to pray. I will say since I believe in free will it could be a way for God to see if people fully accept that he is all knowing. As in, once the population completely realizes his omniscience it would cease all prayer.
@trinale (1479)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Yes Jhovarie, it's true that God knows all and knows exactly what we need. It's us (humans) that often get confused and don't know what we really need or want and get impatient trying to figure it out. That is one reason we pray - for guidance, clarity and often the patience to overcome what we're going through at the time.
Cheers,
Stan
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Amen trinale. I agree with you right up to the praying for patience. I have heard it said that you should not pray for patience as it is taught through trials and advdersities. God is a loving God and gives us what we need and ask for, so I just ask that He remind me to be tolerant and help me endure through life's difficulties.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
18 Feb 12
Hi Jhovarie, Prayer is not really for God, but rather for us. After all, we cannot enlighten God or tell the infinite mind what it should do. Many people need to pray, it somehow helps them to cope with whatever is going on in their life. Of course prayer isn't just spending a few minutes or even a few hours taking to God, we are praying all the time, our every thought, our every word, our every action is a prayer. We do get what we ask for because we create everything that happens to us. Blessings.
@veejay19 (3589)
• India
14 Feb 12
Suppose your boss knew that you wanted a raise but was waiting for you to ask.You knew that he knew but was waiting for him to give.In the same way even though God knows ,he still wants you to ask because he is waiting for you to show your love for him.when you ask,it is your right to do so because he is your real parent, then it give him great joy and happiness to give.A true relationship,called as devotion, is created between you and God.If you did not ask and he just went on giving then the real value is lost and it becomes mechanical bond but when you ask and he gives it becomes a bond of true love.So never be afraid to ask God,he will give you with love, as a bonus.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
15 Feb 12
I've been told that God wants us to ask for what we need, just as we want our children to ask. I suppose it is the acknowledgement of where the benefits come from. There is a bible verse that says, " Ye have not because ye ask not:".
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
14 Feb 12
Very good question. To expand, why pray if God already has a great plan of what's going to happen? Either he was already going to do what you ask for, or he's not going to because it's not in his plan. Nonsense like this is part of the reason why I am a nonbeliever.
@Flashpointer (784)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
That is really a big question regarding God already knows everything and why we need to pray. As I know, prayer is one way to communicate God where we can express to speak within our hearts not in our minds. He listens what our heart says which our minds don't have and once our heart speaks in our prayer He listens what our heart's true intention which He is the only one can interpret that. It sounds so deep but maybe sounds close to that.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
13 Feb 12
At least part of the reason we need to pray is for our own good. When we say things out loud, they seem more real, somehow. It increases our faith and helps settle our needs in our own minds.
Jesus did say that the Father knows what we need before we ask Him, but He also said that we should pray and He prayed to the Father. Prayer is not just us talking, but it's listening for the answer from the Father.
When we praise God and thank Him, that's praying, too, but I think you already knew that.
@Ganesh44 (5547)
• India
13 Feb 12
see if you need small thing or favour from your friend ,why not your friend know you will go to him or her to ask for the same ......
Than when it comes to GOD why cant you pray and if you dont pray but work hard GOD will give it to you but prayers is an add on to hard work must to do it even GOD knows everything .........
Hare Krishna
Ganesh
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
13 Feb 12
We should pray with thanksgiving and blessings for what God has done for us, not just in order to get things. What an ungrateful lot we'd be if we never said thank you to God.
@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
13 Feb 12
YES! God knows what we need.Your question: why need we pray? Here you are: God knows what we deserve too. It may so happen our innermost needs are not exactly what we deserve. But, a loving Father would still give what we don't deserve too, if only we importunately ask Him declaring our sole dependence on Him. That is why we need to pray. Also we need to pray to Him in the ultimate-- to seek His help to know our desserts.It is then we reach the perfection that make us find our way back to Him!!
@free_man (7330)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Hi Jhovarie and welcome to my lot. We need to pray out of respect for Gods love show God that we are worthy of HIS blessings. We need to show God that we know without HIM we would have nothing.
@shylade (3132)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
prayer is a way we can communicate to our creator. we need to pray not just to request for our needs but to ask for forgiveness and guidance, and say our praises and thanksgivings to God. yes God knows everything but God always give us options and it for us to decide. God is never demanding to us so why not pause and pray for a minute or two when we can hang out or surf the net for hours and hours that we didn't mind at all.