Can we climb for GOLD without conscience?

hi, maybe they are really contented to have that kind of behavior because its all about money,they wanted to be a richer person without any hard things to do,and because they are selfish they never think on what will happen to the people who work hard to earn money.

It was there past experiences in life that push them to do so. I guess they will never regret what they had started because they will never give it up. Giving up means losing everything, connections, money, property, pleasure, etc. and etc..

I suppose someone with no morals as someone like this is, they really do not care and hope with little effort to get the adulation not due them. Unlike the star or politician who has gone through school and university and has poured over books to get to the top. I suppose the social climbers are content until they get the letdown, are abandoned, but they never learn and when they fail it is always the other one' s fault.

"In most cases, they are like black widow" Have you done enough research to highlight the above? Shavkat. In my opinion anyone who has no conscience and is hungry for status will stop at nothing to achieve that,irrespective of where they come from.

I know what you mean by that. Just yesterday, my brother in law's wife and I were talking about it. She was saying that when she and her friend went to a restaurant the other night,she saw some old men having dates with really young women- sort of 40-50 year difference. I don't see any love with this kind of relationship. And these young women are just taking advantage of the older men's money because these women are either still in school who needs money to get through College or are breadwinners of the family that they need extra income to be able to send for their families. And yes, they do not end just like that. Women like those and some men maybe will go to the extent of acting like rich people when they are out in the streets!

yes for sure we can if we have the guts and strong belief to root it past,we can achieve more anytime

I don't think "Black Widow" is exactly apt, since that's pretty much a description of someone, generally a woman, who marries a person than kills them. Young women who hook up with or marry older, wealthy men are often considered "bimbos" but they have gotten themselves "sugar daddies", men who will take care of them. As for being content... I don't know, I never was one of these types...

A friend of mine often says there are two kinds of people-- makers and takers.He characterizes my other half and I as makers, because we spend a lot of time and money helping others. Unfortunately, there seem to be a lot more takers around than when I was a kid-- and that wasn't all that long ago! I think social climbers are that way because they always see themselves only as others see them-- if other people see them as successful, or well off, or high society, then they must be. I have never met one who was actually happy-- because they don't like themselves. It's my thought that no one who acts like that-- gold diggers, social climbers, takers-- can really like themselves if they have what most people would consider a "conscience". Part of having a conscience is not taking advantage of others or manipulating people, and not lying to people. Since gold diggers and social climbers by definition are manipulative, and take advantage of people and may also be liars in one way or another, either they don't have the same conscience as other people, or they are not happy and don't like themselves.

There are some people who like the social climb. It makes them feel important to be about others. Its also very lonely at the top. I don't care about the social ladder because the higher you are on it the more your butt is exposed. Social status comes and goes and when you're at the top everybody wants to knock you off, when you're at the bottom its a climb that could take all your finances just to get on the first rung.

Well, this is like the truth that there are users and givers. Those that take from others and those that give. Social climbers must jump to the top quickly and will cut to the quick anyone that gets in their way. I think Karma will get these people and they will be sorry.

Not being a social climber, it's hard to answer that question. I suppose if they reach their goal they might be content, but I don't know if they're happy.

This would definitely not be something that I would ever be able to do. The reason that I couldn't do it is because of the fact that in life, I have the feeling that life and positive relationships with other people is the most important thing that we have in our lives. I do see that there are a lot of people that do seem to be able to work like this, however, no one that I personally associate myself is able to operate in this kind of a way.

Hopefully we arent making presuppositions about people. We all know what its like to be judged and not have the whole picture. We see snapshots of peoples lives and make assumptions. I have done this before and needed to ask for forgiveness. But if we know a persons life..we have more than just a snapshot then we can better judge the situation in the right context. But since you speak generally..yes. Shamefully, there are some who are ok with social climbing without conscience. Social climbing in itself isnt bad. Who of us doesnt want to better ourselves and take a shorter distance to our goal? Its not wrong of me to take route 6 to canton that will get me there in 8 miles as opposed to route 20 that will add another 20 miles to my journey. How long it takes isnt the issue as much as what we are doing to get there. Adversity doesnt build character, it reveals it. Integrity is only integrity when we have the opportunity to do something that will risk it. It takes courage to hold to doing the right thing even if its hard. god is not mocked..whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. If I take a short cut to integrity, to gain success..I may still get it! But God is not mocked. It's only a matter of time before what you didnt do right will be your downfall..and great will be the fall of the arrogant. I have learned this painfully as well. God speaks if we are willing to listen if we are not pride always comes before a fall and an arrogant heart before destruction. Bless ya!