If we truly love someone, we shouldn't expect too much....
By muggiekins
@joliefille (3690)
Philippines
January 17, 2013 10:31am CST
Soap operas are really unrealistic. It's perhaps for that reason that my mom watches them in her pasttime because in the first place it's not real.
Two days ago while working online a conversation between the lead actor and lead actress in a prime time soap opera caught my attention. The guy broke into an ardent confession that he loves the girl so much. Then in frustration shouts at her that she couldn't even love him the way he loves her.
Is that how love is viewed as in this generation? If we love someone deeply we shouldn't expect them to love us the same way, right? We can't force anyone to love us, we get frustrated only because of our unrealistic expectations. If love is true then one should be happy just by the act of loving and caring alone, no expectations, much like the joy of giving stops at giving.
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18 responses
@Ashu1970 (63)
• India
19 Jan 13
Hi joliefille, I am not surprised by the fact that your mom watches Soaps in her pastime because, earlier Soaps were actually specifically created that way. During 1950s, soaps were formulated so that women can enjoy them while not letting their housework hamper. The stories were unrealistic as you mentioned, however, they were repetitive and this ensured that the portion they missed did not matter much and they could easily catch up the story line. They had not to worry about missed point or plot as they did not require 100% attention.
I entirely agree about what you said of "Love". True love is eternal and unconditional.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
It's the repetitive plot that makes it boring. It's her favourite pasttime and she doesn't even care if she has watched the same plot over and over.
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
21 Jan 13
I know. Most of us in the house really find it boring. But we love her and we let her watch her shows.
@Ashu1970 (63)
• India
21 Jan 13
Sorry joliefille, but we cannot force our likes and dislikes on others. Everone has his/her own preferences and these must be respected. It is you who feel that repetitive is boring, but I am sure your mother definitely would have a justification as to why it is not boring to her.
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@courtknee525 (3742)
• United States
17 Jan 13
To me, that type of love isn't healthy. And it also seems like the guy has the feelings when the girl really didn't have feelings for him in return. Love should always be kind and caring, without expecting too much. My boyfriend's mom once told me to not expect anything at all and that way you don't get hurt or disappointed and you'll only be happy when something goes well and you didn't expect anything. But I kind of don't like that view. My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 3 years now and I think it's ok to have reasonable expectations in the relationship. I know both of us expect the other to remain faithful to each other even though he's in the army and got sent to Korea, and we also expect to call and text each other.
To me, this doesn't seem like too much to expect from each other. We're not making unreasonable demands to each other and if something minor goes wrong we don't stress about it too much.
Nowadays, people say they really love someone but then have all these expectations, which to me, isn't really love at all. Because with love, you don't expect much, you just try to make your relationship work and be happy with one another.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
17 Jan 13
Yours is mutual and both people are willing to work on the relationship. When you're in the relationship and committed to it, you work as friends and partners together. I find it disturbing when those characters in the soap opera were still teenagers. When I saw that scene I was like, "Bad bad script." It kinda made me reflect on the subliminal message it might be bringing to teenagers that love doesn't take effort and that being in love qualifies already as love.
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
I've lost my interest in romantic films that come out. Well, I rarely watch romantic movies anyway because I prefer sci-fi or suspense action films. But I think most of all this is why parental guidance is important, especially in their teenage years because it's a phase where one can go to extremes.
@courtknee525 (3742)
• United States
17 Jan 13
That really is true. There are plenty of other tv shows and movies that portray love that way and it gives young people a false reality of what love is. This could lead to dysfunctional relationships because they'll expect so much out of the person they think they love. But if they really loved that person, there wouldn't be unrealistic expectations at all.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
19 Jan 13
I love my husband with all of my heart and soul and I can only hope that he loves me in the same way. Now I'm not going to ever demand that he love me the same way that I love him because that wouldn't be fair to him. You see, we are two different people and our capacity to love is built in different ways.
I do have some expectations for him and I know that he has expectations for me as well. However the expectations that we have for each other are expectations that are completely reasonable.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
As parents and husband and wife there are indeed expectations. If for some sort of disagreement it cannot be met, then it can always be discussed. But if one who is not even in a relationship yet with someone and dares to speak about hurting their feelings, it's ridiculous to think about.
@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
18 Jan 13
Soap operas is some unrealistic is because people want it to be real only by using their imagination and create it by using a mass media like television and movies. That is why I don't believe a happy ending when it comes to love story soap operas. There seems perfect even though they are not perfect.
Another is we are here on earth and so, all of us have a desire and gratification needs to love us back. All of us want something in return because we are only human and we are also not perfect. Love here on earth is much different to a love in afterlife. Love here on earth is rational and conditional while in afterlife life which is heaven, well, there is true love and unconditional love. God is unconditional love. He does not expect any kind of return that is why he's perfect and he's loving God unlike here on earth, well, we're not that perfect.
All of us expect a return from the person we love. We suffered too much, we cry, we hurt, we frustrate and so on. We are being martyrd to the one we love especially if that person does not love us back.
All of us feel sad, frustrate, feel depress and stress because we need something in return. We need love from that person. That is what we called a gratification needs and desire when it comes to love because we are attach in the physical world. We are not in heaven and even though we set them free and we don't force them to love us, we still feel sad and hurt.
Love here on earth is suffering and frustration and instead we make them as inspiration, we suffered because of love.
If there is a person who does not expect a return to the one he loves and even though she does not expect a return from him, she would never get inspired instead she feels empty and lose.
We're only human.
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
We can't deny also that we do expect. As you said it's just human to expect but we also have to make sure we have a right to expect.
If we knew someone can't return back our affection and yet we still expect, then we can just blame Taylor Swift for writing mushy songs after each breakup.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
We really could not expect that the person that we love could really love as back. But what we can do is to try to make ourselves worthy to be loved. In that way, maybe that person will know that he/she can be able to love us in the long run.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
I don't understand why dependency has been accepted by others as a cloak to love. Instead of pining for those qualities we lack but see in others, we can try to improve ourselves so that instead of us seeking the perfection of love in another, we embody or epitomized love by loving ourselves first.
@Dominique25 (9464)
• United States
23 Jan 13
Yeah soap opera's and a lot of movies are unrealistic. We definitely can't force someone to love us the way that we think they should. Soap operas are really unending drama and do we really want our life to be that way. I know I don't.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
24 Jan 13
I definitely don't want to either. Even if prince charming is in it.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
17 Jan 13
That depends on the situation I guess.
What if the other person is already committed or married- how can he/she loves the other person the same way?
True love is loving someone unconditionally, therefore we should not expect the same impact or the same way the other person will show us care and love.
True love is loving someone without expecting in return.
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
Ah tight spot indeed. One has to choose. I don't believe in what others say that they could love two lovers the same way. Somehow one is gonna come out as weighing more or the better option.
@airasheila (5454)
• Philippines
17 Jan 13
hi there joliefille,
expecting something in return in not an amiable thing to do as this will really bring frustration. hence, when you loved somebody, just let the loved flow and better not to expect something so you can experienced the real loved. hence, expecting something will just ruined the relationship if it is not the type of loved that you want to get.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
Yes, it is selfish and saying it is a selfish kind of love does not even seem appropriate because love in the first place is not selfish and never will be. I think society's perception of real love is distorted. I always think back to 1 Corinthians verse from the Bible about real love when it comes to these issues on love and expectations.
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
Yes, it can be weakened or might grow stronger because as individuals we also have our own life lessons to learn. But it can't always be about us and our feelings as a relationship involves compromise.
@Shavkat (140102)
• Philippines
18 Jan 13
That's love, there is no conditions in loving someone. If a partner so much and trying to change you to be someone else, then that is not love. The person should not be ruled by its partner according to his or her preference. For some, they persuade them without limit, but it should not be the case.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
In that case of trying to change someone, then one is operating not on love but on fear. Fear of losing their partner to someone else or fear of being stranded or left alone.
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
Exaggeration is important for producers. It's what makes them money, the more intense, the more viewers they draw in. Though I'm pretty sure there are real life stories that would be heart-wrenching to watch.
@akhaniemar (122)
• Philippines
18 Jan 13
We love someone because we felt it. It's something we do voluntarily without anyone asking us to do so. In other words, we must not expect them to do the same for us. Well, there's so many things to learn in love but one thing's for sure, it's not asking for something in return because love is not selfish. When we love someone we let them go and allow them to be happy even if it means we should allow them to be happy with somebody else. Our love is not an assurance that they will be satisfied, because sometimes, we cannot offer what will make them happy.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
It's just like the butterfly as they said. If you keep it closely within your palm, it will try to break free. Some people are lucky to also be loved by their partners, some aren't.
@ZoeJoy (1392)
• United States
18 Jan 13
Every time I happen to glance at a soap opera at someone's house or at a restaurant, it is always about broken love. Or about how the woman is telling the man that he drinks too much. Never seem to see any happy scenes in the soap operas. Always the drama.
Love is mutual, otherwise it is infatuation. Love is about loving and being loved back. Love is about caring but also that the other person cares about you. You can't really love someone deeply unless they love you deeply as well. True love is when both people love each other with the same deep love.
Love between two people, like in a marriage is a mutual love. Both equally loving the other.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
It's so typical that every time I stop and glance it makes me laugh instead of sympathize.
Though kidding aside, anyone who would want to have a family soon should be looking for someone who cares more about them or more like someone who can bring out the best in them. Mutual love does make the marriage more bearable for the couple and eventually for the children.
@Janurmas (642)
• Indonesia
17 Jan 13
You are right. If we love someone, we cannot expect too much of him or her. If we expect too much of someone, someday we would get broken-hearted or the one we love would feel uncomfortable towards us. Unrequited love is not a love that can mutually benefited each other. I don't like what the soap operas performed in their show.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
I fell into that kind of trap as well in the past. It always feels uncomfortable to be expecting something in return. Then if we don't get what we want we take it out on the other person just like what was portrayed in that soap opera.
@stary1 (6612)
• United States
17 Jan 13
joliefille
I used to watch soap operas but gave up except for one..I watch the Bold and the Beautiful... It's as corny as it can be, with more twists than is realistic.
I don't know exactly why I still watch it but I an intrigued with what they could possibly do next...I DVR it so I can zip past the commercials and it doesn't waste much time.
My mother used to watch soaps strictly for the fashions..
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
I have seen a bit of the Bold and the Beautiful. There were other soaps quite similar to that one. I think it was called Sunset Beach. I am not sure now if it was of a similar story but I was able to watch SB longer compared to BATB. Those were in those times back in post-college when I only did tutorial as a job and I go home watching soaps because of the conversation (anyone who wants to polish their English can watch any American show with lots of conversation), the atmosphere of the setting, the beautiful people I can stare at, etc.
@Raine38 (12391)
• United States
17 Jan 13
And that is the reason why I don't watch soap operas anymore. Sometimes I would get so carried away that I would feel disgusted or disappointed with the characters and it ruins everything for me. I know it's silly, but you're right, their views and lines about love, for example, are just so off that it's not true anymore.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
17 Jan 13
They make it too sugar-coated, too hyped just for the network to get more ratings for their show. Plus common soap operas in the Philippines pretty much have the same ending. Then there's always the premise about the lost son or lost daughter.
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
17 Jan 13
soap operas are trash tv.. They sure are here in Mexico. I dont watch them here. I did watch them alittle in usa.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
You know what, Mexican soaps used to be so popular here in the Philippines. I think it's because of the beautiful people. What you call trashy there was very popular here back then! Plus I used to watch an Argentinian soap on YouTube because I was learning Spanish.
@MaylaJay (349)
•
17 Jan 13
I think sometimes we give ourselves too much credit. Like that guy thought that he loved her way more than she could ever love him. Why do we believe so much about ourselves? I also think that sometimes we say that just so that the other person will say "But I do love you! I love you so much! Blah. Blah. Blah." I think it's that the person wants a confidence booster more than anything. Happens less in real life than in movies.
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@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
17 Jan 13
Which was exactly a selfish thing lol, seeking validation and all that. You know, I used to be like that when I was a kid.
I remember this Kabbalah introductory lesson I took for a while with Bnei Baruch about how our desires for another are really aimed at satisfying ourselves. According to that lesson, when we desire something it is because we want to satisfy ourselves, there's nothing wrong with that because that's how we are wired - desire and then reward. Furthermore they explained that to evolve, we would need to get to the point where the desire we seek is for the other's happiness because seeing them happy is what makes us happy too.