Maybe I'm being a jerk?
By Faye
@FayeHazel (40243)
United States
May 23, 2018 12:57pm CST
Awhile back I took an online course inspired by Dan Millman.
In case you don't know of him - Millman was a gymnast and wrote many self help books including "Way of the Peaceful Warrior" which focuses on a positive mindset and the power of living in the moment.
So - as I was taking this online course, there was usage of a message board offered for discussing the course.
And I started corresponding with this man. We had the nicest discussions. Got along well. He wanted to start a relationship with me. But I held back. I've done 3 online relationships and it never ends well for me. Either they find someone they like better in person and drop me, or they aren't at all who they seemed to be online. So I told him that I will not do a long distance relationship, and he was alright with it. We could still be friends though.
Well then he started pestering me for me phone number. To text me with.
I hesitated. You see - I'm not the best texter. It has it's time and place. But I'm not the type to sit there and have a conversation all day over text. It makes me feel like I'm chained to the phone.
So I explained this fact to him. Several times.
He assured me that we would largely communicate by email as we had been, and that he only wanted to text "hi" occasionally. Well alright then.
I gave him my number.
And sure enough, he texted me good morning, which was nice.
The following is close to how our communication went.
Him: Good morning!
Me Good morning, hope you are having a great day
Him: It's sunny here and I have the day off
Me: I have to work today so it'll hopefully be productive
Him: I plan to run some errands today and get a walk in
...
and with that I left to continue on my day. There was nothing urgent in his most recent response, so I thought he'd be cool until later when I wasn't trying to get things done.
I was wrong.
By noon I had something like this going on - on my phone.
Him: I want to buy a XYZ and do ABC
Him: Hello?
Him: Hello?
Him : Hellllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooo?
Him: Are you busy?
Him: Are you working?
Him: Why won't you answer me?
Him: Please answer me! What have I done wrong?
Him: Have I offended you?
Him: Is everything alright?
Him: Where are you?
Now, that's pretty scary considering it had only been a few hours.
So I texted him back around noon.
Me: Hi! No you haven't offended me. I've just been busy working and am grabbing a bite to eat. I can't chat now, as I will be back to work. Let's save more detailed conversation for emails, what do you think.
Him: (instantly) Oh good. Good. You're not mad at me then. I'm out shopping now and then I have to go for groceries.
Him: There's a sale on.....
Him: Hello?
Him: You're not replying?
Him: Where are you?
Him: Are you mad?
.... etc.
Well, - here's where I might be a b.
Clinginess is a real turn off for me. For most of my life I've had to answer to my control freak dad. My life revolved around his every little desire for most of 30 something years. Since I've moved out it's better, true, yes, but I still find that my dad loves controlling me and breaking free is a constant struggle. So anything that even sort of reminds me of stuff like -
*having to account for what I'm doing at all moments
*immediate replies
*canceling of plans so that his wants of my time are met
*having to ask permission/get clearance to do things
turns me off instantly.
I think I emailed him once after that. And then I ignored him. It was just too much of turn off.
However I will sit here and complain that I attract no one.
I will sit and say how no one has any perseverance for me.
And yet I rejected this man, who... even though it's been over a year since we've been in touch *still* sends me texts on occasion. (To which I don't reply)
So.
People say go with your instinct and my instinct was to avoid the instant cling-on behavior.
But am I the one being a jerk?
Have you ever had any experiences with a clingy person? Or setting boundaries?
Photo: Pixabay
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15 responses
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
25 May 18
Not good for you at all and you did the right thing.
I have gotten rid of at least two like that well similar before.
I had to set boundaries as well.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
25 May 18
@FayeHazel
Yes you have to.
I went to hold an Interview for my Husband for a future client and he was very clingy right from the start and I said that I was not going to interview him with that attitude so I left him right then and there.
Of course sometimes its not that easy I know.
I had to set boundaries with an older man also and I was having twins at the time and I got out of the car as he behaved out of context completely by surprise and I said I would never speak to him again ever after that.
I was too heavy to be able to defend myself but I did and I was afraid to tell anyone as he was supposed to be a very good friend.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
@lovinangelsinstead21 Oh yes, if you fail to set boundaries early on with people it just gets much more difficult as time progresses.
You did right to leave right away with that client.
And the "friend" wasn't a friend at all. That sounds scary actually and I'm happy you were able to get out of the situation.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
Ah that makes me feel much better. SOmetimes I question. But it's right - if it feels off, then something is wrong. Happy you set boundaries too
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@Orson_Kart (6776)
• United Kingdom
23 May 18
I think he was "living in the moment" and you weren't. At least not his moment.
He was definitely too full on and sounds like a control freak.
I've been infatuated in the past, but never to that extent. And I've have had admirers who were just like him. Scary!
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@Orson_Kart (6776)
• United Kingdom
24 May 18
@FayeHazel There's nothing to be ashamed of. It's human nature when you're attracted to someone that you get that rush of excitement when interested is returned and some form of communication is exchanged.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
@Orson_Kart True... then the disappointment later. Meh lol
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
24 May 18
Ha ha. Yes. Safe to say we were not on the same page.
True - the extreme neediness would seem to point to controling behavior. Too bad that.
I admit somewhat ashamed - in the past - I have been quite taken with several male pen pals... but, not to that extent!
It drives people away that behaviors
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@moirai (2853)
• Philippines
4 Jun 18
Wow.
Well, you did warn him beforehand, both that you did not want a long distance relationship and about not being a texter much.
You gave him a chance and he blew it by demanding too much of your time after all that warning.
I think you did the right thing.
I wouldn't even give my phone number in the first place. :P
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@moirai (2853)
• Philippines
5 Jun 18
@FayeHazel Yeah. That's not your fault. :) He did say that he'd only send you an occasional hi so that's what you expected when you gave your number. Though in retrospect, it seems he just told you that, knowing it's what you wanted to hear.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
5 Jun 18
@moirai So strange... he should have known that the constant texting wouldn't have sat well. :/
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
4 Jun 18
Thanks, that makes me feel better.
True, I knew that giving my number wouldn't be good, but I did it anyway. Doh
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@epiffanie (11326)
• Australia
25 May 18
I am also easily turned off by clingy people.. Even my husband puts me off when he keeps popping in to my studio while I'm working to ask if everything's okay... When he does that every half an hour I get irritated .. I told him , "If you keep doing that, then everything won't be okay!!"..
LOL! .. he was upset .... You know, sometimes, men are worst than women when it comes to feeling insecure ..
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
Oh I agree. I'm happy you tell hubby to back off a bit. That would get on my nerves, too.
It's true. Women are presented as having insecurity issues, when in fact men have the same
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
29 May 18
@epiffanie Hm, that does seem to hold true
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@just4him (317041)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
24 May 18
@FayeHazel I hope he stops pestering you. Can you block him on your cell?
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
@just4him Thanks! You know, that would likely be smartest to do. Then I wouldnrt question myself with each communication
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
24 May 18
Thanks! So true. Even if the rest of him is perfect, I couldn't stand that behavior, and it wouldn't be a good match, either.
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@Courtlynn (67085)
• United States
23 May 18
Not going to lie, I've been clingy. But I find most in their teens are, when they think they love someone. So yeah.
He is a grown man, and you told him two times you were working.. I think you were right to stop communication. As you weren't into it.
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@Courtlynn (67085)
• United States
24 May 18
@FayeHazel right. More have been clingy than those will admit. But thats not always bad either. Some actually like it.
Right
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
@Courtlynn It's interesting - If I want to hear from the person it's nice. If they can avoid making me feel like "I have to" or I have no freedom. Some of those are my issues to work through.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
24 May 18
Ah, as much as I may not want to admit it - I too, have been there. Not to his extent. Though it's true - I used to be the wait-by-the-phone or the computer type.
True. Even if he was a great person in all other aspects, if the communication styles don't line up, then they don't line up and it won't be the best for either person
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
Thanks! I'm happy I'm not the only one thinking the behaviors were strange.
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@PatZAnthony (14749)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
30 May 18
You are not being a jerk. Go with your instinct. Always trust that gut feeling that tells you not to do something.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
4 Jun 18
Very true. When you go against your feeling, bad things usually happen. thanks!
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
24 May 18
Ah, perhaps that is a better insight. I was too nice for too long
@Happy2BeMe (99380)
• Canada
23 May 18
I would have dropped him too. I couldnt handle somebody being so clingy and needy. It would be a huge turn off for me.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
24 May 18
Oh good, thanks for the comment - I was starting to think I was being too picky
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@dgobucks226 (35608)
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25 May 18
I also dislike texting a lot. To me texting is just a convenient way to contact someone if you cannot disturb them with a phone call. Plus, I don't text quickly so it becomes time consuming. As far as this guy texting mostly gibberish, maybe he needed a reminder that this was not your favorite form of communication. He must of been one of those people who really is into texting all day long. In that realm, he is not alone....
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
Oh so true! Finally someone who feels how I do. I also find it tedious. Though, like you note it has its own time and place.
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@porwest (90876)
• United States
23 May 18
You are not being a jerk at all. It seems clear to me that the guy has security issues, or some other variance of issues. Either way, I'd say he is bad news. It's difficult to judge a person just based on one example, such as in this case. But it is enough of an example to think that if you ever were in a more intimate relationship with this person, it could get ugly really fast. I'd steer far and clear.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
24 May 18
Ah thank goodness. I got to over-thinking it ... and then was wondering if it was me. But the extreme neediness is a danger signal.
Good point, I hadn't even thought of that, but if we aren't even in a relationship and he needs 24/7 reassurances.... what would happen if we were together?
Excellent input. Thank you
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@Starmaiden (9311)
• Canada
23 May 18
You did the right thing. His behavior shows how insecure he is, and the two of you aren't even dating!
I've had men do that to me also. I'm not into cling ons either.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
24 May 18
Ah thanks for the reality check. It's a pity, and I do hope that he overcomes his issues.
And thank goodness I'm not alone with the cling on thing
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@_Charlie_ (15)
• United Kingdom
24 May 18
I'm just like you, I find clinginess to be a turn off. I'd say that you're not a jerk, you had already explained to him you were busy and couldn't talk at that moment, and by the looks of the conversation, he read and understood that. If you didn't do it now, he could have gotten worse and clingyer (is that even a word?)
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
25 May 18
I think clingyer is a word. :-) It sure is an action by some people. Ha ha.
Yeah, it was strange. I wasn't ignoring him initially - just waiting until a better time to converse.
Thank goodness I'm not alone in that being an extreme turn off
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@andriaperry (116936)
• Anniston, Alabama
23 May 18
I would have dropped that like a hot tater too! That was just bullshit. you plainly said you could not talk now.
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@FayeHazel (40243)
• United States
24 May 18
Ah thank goodness, I was starting to question if it were really me who were being unfair