Drongo - an exclusively Aussie word?

@JudyEv (342277)
Rockingham, Australia
January 16, 2019 3:10am CST
Recently I wrote about the ‘spitting image’’ – a very strange phrase if ever there was one. Another unusual word is ‘drongo’. It seems there was a racehorse in the 1920s named Drongo that didn’t win a race in 27 starts and the word was picked up to describe a stupid or incompetent person. So I might call Vince a drongo if he's walking round looking for his hat and it's on his head. Or he might call me one when I go to the supermarket but forget to take any money - as I did just yesterday. I knew this meaning of the word but wasn’t aware that it is also the name of a bird. The spangled drongo (Dicrurus bracteatus) is found in eastern and northern Australia. There is another species found in Asia. It has black iridescent plumage with blue spangles on the breast and the tail is forked. They are mostly found along the north and east coasts of Australia and tend to migrate both east to west and north to south. They are great mimics and are easily tamed. I don't know why it came to be known as a 'drongo' but maybe the horse was named after the bird. So have you heard of the word ‘drongo’ or is it another of our Australian slang terms? Photo from Wikimedia: attribution not required but thanks to James Niland from Brisbane, Australia [CC BY 2.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0)], via Wikimedia Commons
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@LadyDuck (472118)
• Switzerland
16 Jan 19
I never heard of this bird, with a beautiful shiny black color. The color is the same of our black birds, but they have a yellow beak and yellow and black eyes.
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@allknowing (137914)
• India
16 Jan 19
We have this bird visiting us and I have posted a video here. It chirps in 8 different sounds including that of a cat
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
@allknowing It seems it is a great mimic.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
Because I know the Australian meaning of the word, it seems a very strange name for a bird. But of course the horse was probably named after the bird rather than the bird being named 'drongo' because it was stupid.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
16 Jan 19
I knew that the drongo was a bird because it features in the song, "The Drover's Dream" which I have known for many years -"The drongo and the crow sang us songs of long ago" - and so had looked up long ago. I assumed that it was an Australian Aborigine word for the bird but Wikipedia says that it's a Malagasy word (indigenous language of Madagascar) I also knew the word as a mild insult (perhaps from 'Neighbours' or from Paul Hogan's 'Crocodile Dundee') but I didn't know that it came from the name of a horse!
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
16 Jan 19
Malagasy is an Austronesian language, it's a sub group together with Malayo-Polynesian where many Southeast Asian languages belong including Tagalog or Pilipino. Tagalog has the same word " drongo" for a similar looking black bird with a forked tail so most likely it was a retained word from the Western migration since drongos could also be found in Africa. Definitely it's not an aboriginal word and both of us did not know that the insulting word came from a race horse
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
16 Jan 19
@louievill I knew that Malagasy is an Austronesian language. I have the greatest admiration for a people who could travel such vast distances in both the Indian and the Pacific Oceans. It must have taken a great leap of faith for those early sailors to set out in search of new lands, not knowing how long they would be at sea nor whether they would ever make landfall. It's interesting that Tagalog also knows the bird as 'drongo'.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
@owlwings @louievill I'd forgotten about it being in The Drover's Dream. It's still used as a mild insult. No-one would be very offended by being called a drongo. I keep wondering why they'd call a bird after a horse but of course the bird came first.
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• Preston, England
16 Jan 19
heard the word used in Australian movies like Crocodile Dundee
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• Preston, England
16 Jan 19
@JudyEv not seen The Drover's Dream
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
@arthurchappell It's a song, not that it matters. I tried to find a YouTube of it and there are some but it seems some have the wrong lyrics and I haven't time to research which is correct at the moment.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
And as OwlWings says it's in The Drover's Dream. I'd forgotten about both of those instances.
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@WorDazza (15830)
• Manchester, England
16 Jan 19
I thought the spangled drongo was Vince wearing his disco trousers. (Don't tell him I said that!!)
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@WorDazza (15830)
• Manchester, England
16 Jan 19
@JudyEv You have to find it! That's a definite must-see.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
@WorDazza I'll keep looking. It's a doozy.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
I have a photo of him in his hippy gear but I can't find it.
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@just4him (317315)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
16 Jan 19
It's a beautiful bird. I think it's purely Australian. I've never heard it before.
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@allknowing (137914)
• India
16 Jan 19
We have this bird visiting us
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@TheHorse (220372)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Jan 19
Me neither.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
There is another species found in Asian countries.
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@JohnRoberts (109846)
• Los Angeles, California
16 Jan 19
As many Aussie slang and word abbreviations I have heard, drongo is new to me.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
I'd forgotten it's used in Crocodile Dundee and in the song The Drover's Dream. I hadn't thought about it being more or less unique to Australia.
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@JohnRoberts (109846)
• Los Angeles, California
16 Jan 19
@JudyEv I saw Crocodile Dundee way back when so don't recall the word being used.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
16 Jan 19
'Drongo' is a new name for me. I haven't heard this name earlier. But the bird, I am familiar with the same.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
It seems the bird is quite common in your country.
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@JWMILLER (3275)
• Westmoreland, Tennessee
7 Feb 19
I had not heard it.
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@allknowing (137914)
• India
16 Jan 19
We have the Greater racket tailed drongo visiting us often. It chirps in 8 different ways I have captured it in a video It even chirps like a cat
Itis amazing to listen to the various sounds this bird makes at one sitting.
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@allknowing (137914)
• India
16 Jan 19
@JudyEv Preiti would rush out thinking it was a cat but later realised.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
They are great mimics apparently and your video proves it. It certainly sounds like a cat at times.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
16 Jan 19
Thanks for teaching me a new word . I searched, we have a drongo in the Philippines, black and looks similar, drongo-cuckoo is found only in the Philippines and belongs to a different genus, surniculus ( if I remember it right) most likely the horse was named after the bird.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
Yes, you are right of course. The bird would have been named before the horse. And you're also correct in the Asian bird being of a different species/genus (not sure which).
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@jobelbojel (36048)
• Philippines
16 Jan 19
This is interesting. It is a new one for me.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
There is a similar bird in Asian countries but it's a different species.
@FourWalls (69125)
• United States
16 Jan 19
Look at that pretty red eye! Interesting origin of the slang term, too.
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@FourWalls (69125)
• United States
17 Jan 19
@JudyEv -- and a horse is a horse, of course of course!
This video is about Mr. Ed the talking horse.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
I keep thinking the bird must be dumb but the bird came before the horse - of course!
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
@FourWalls Of course, of course. I used to love this show but only ever got to watch it if we were visiting our friends in the city.
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@amadeo (111938)
• United States
16 Jan 19
that is one good looking bird there.Not familiar with this one
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@amadeo (111938)
• United States
16 Jan 19
@JudyEv yes they are very much so.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
They are really glossy aren't they? No wonder they're called 'sparkling'.
@xFiacre (13174)
• Ireland
16 Jan 19
@judyev Drongo is ringing a faint bell in my head but I can’t think why. I’ll have plenty of opportunity to use it so thanks.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
Yep, there are plenty of drongos in the world.
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
16 Jan 19
I know the word and the meaning but I only know it as an Australianism.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jan 19
I've caught on here a couple of times putting up words that no-one knew. One was chook (chicken) but I've persisted with that one so maybe a few people now know what a chook is.
@TheHorse (220372)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Jan 19
I had never heard the word "drongo." I'm trying to think of a comparable word here. Now you have me wondering where the term "spitting image" came from.
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@TheHorse (220372)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 Jan 19
@JudyEv Yes I do! And I'm a horse, not a donkey.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
@TheHorse I knew a few horses that I'm sure identified themselves as donkeys.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
My previous post was about the origin of spitting image but it seems there is no hard and fast answer, only assumptions and you know what they do!
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@noni1959 (10113)
• United States
16 Jan 19
I never heard of this bird. I'll have to show my friend who is an avid bird watcher.
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@noni1959 (10113)
• United States
17 Jan 19
@JudyEv He has a lot of bird books. I'll have him look it up.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
@noni1959 I'll look forward to whatever extra information you come up with.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
I think they are only found in Australasia and not in the US.
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@paigea (36315)
• Canada
16 Jan 19
I never heard of the horse, bird or word! I am sure that is how many words come to be.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
Your vocabulary has now been expanded - by one word!
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jan 19
@paigea So are you keeping track of the new words you've learnt? I've learnt a heap of new facts but probably forgotten some of them already.
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@paigea (36315)
• Canada
20 Jan 19
@JudyEv Just what I come here for.
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@Shiva49 (26785)
• Singapore
17 Jan 19
This bird then deserves a nicer moniker! But then "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" - siva
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@JWMILLER (3275)
• Westmoreland, Tennessee
7 Feb 19
Language is arbitrary, It is what it is, always
@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
You are missing the point, as I did, that the bird came first and had been a drongo long before the horse came along. Maybe it was a black horse and was named after the bird. Then the poor old horse was a failure and drongo became a derogatory term and the now the bird is suffering because of it. I still can't quite get my head around it.
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@Shiva49 (26785)
• Singapore
7 Feb 19
@JWMILLER Now we have sort of a universal social media lingo that some feel corrupts the language. We should not go overboard with a take anything goes - siva
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@kobesbuddy (78871)
• East Tawas, Michigan
16 Jan 19
Oh it's a handsome bird, with beautiful coloring! Nope, I've never heard of a 'drongo' in the US, but of course, I'm not really up on bird names either.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
I have to keep reminding myself that the bird drongo came before the horse and stupidity label.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
18 Jan 19
@kobesbuddy that is so cute. And I had friends who had a cockatoo and every morning as they passed his cage on their way to work, he's say 'can I come, can I come'.
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@kobesbuddy (78871)
• East Tawas, Michigan
17 Jan 19
@JudyEv It sounds like the complete opposite, a very intelligent bird instead! My mom's friend Jeannie had a parakeet. It would say, 'Forgettin' something?' whenever she would pass by its cage in the morning. Jeannie would have to stop at the birdcage, allowing him to share a little kiss. Then, he would stop saying it!
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@dgobucks226 (35770)
17 Jan 19
Never heard of the term before. But as one who occasionally bets the ponies I'm surprised that horse did not fare better in his racing career. An American Thoroughbred racehorse called Mine That Bird is best known for pulling off a monumental upset, at 50-to-1 odds, by winning the Kentucky Derby in 2009. For that horse "The Bird Is The Word."
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Jan 19
Some horses win at long odds don't they? The Kentucky Derby would have been special for the owners.
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@JudyEv (342277)
• Rockingham, Australia
18 Jan 19
@dgobucks226 I've heard a lot about Man o' War but I've never heard of Upset. Nice story.
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@dgobucks226 (35770)
17 Jan 19
@JudyEv Although most times favorites prevail sometimes there can be an unexpected upset. In the sports world It was at Saratoga, in 1919, that the word “upset” entered the American sports lexicon. That's when a horse named Upset beat the mighty Man o' War. It was Man o' War's only loss in the colts career.
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