Anyone for a Vegemite sandwich?

@JudyEv (341726)
Rockingham, Australia
August 21, 2021 7:39am CST
I’m not sure of the difference between crows and ravens and don’t have time to research it at the moment but the article I read was about ravens. Both species are incredibly clever, capable of using tools, cooperating with each other and passing on their skills to their offspring. Some near us made the news because they are managing to unzip kids’ school-bags before fossicking through the bags and opening lunch boxes, helping themselves to whatever takes their fancy. They also drop items from trees or rooftops causing them to break or open up. Apparently the birds disappear when the school term finishes but turn up again once school starts.
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@allknowing (137552)
• India
22 Aug 21
Have you not heard of the story about the thirsty crow?. When the crow saw the water in a tub that was not reachable he dropped stone to bring the level up.
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@allknowing (137552)
• India
22 Aug 21
@sjvg1976 I won the race
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@sjvg1976 (41289)
• Delhi, India
22 Aug 21
@allknowing yes you did.
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@sjvg1976 (41289)
• Delhi, India
22 Aug 21
That's what I was going to write.
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@FourWalls (68888)
• United States
21 Aug 21
It’s amazing how animals “learn,” isn’t it. We have coolers (the biggest brand name being Yeti) that are “bear-proof” because bears have learned to open “regular” coolers. They also have hidden latch garbage cans in the areas around the Great Smoky Mountains (and in the park) because bears can open the old-fashioned garbage cans. In fact, there’s a list of “tips” to bear-proof things including hiding food in your car because bears can recognize the packaging! Anyway, let those crows have a vegemite sandwich and let’s see how quickly they stop stealing food.
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@ptrikha_2 (47062)
• India
22 Aug 21
@FourWalls Thank God. We do not have bears around us!
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@ptrikha_2 (47062)
• India
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv Or having leopards and Tigers or Lions!
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
A fair dinkum Aussie crow would kill for Vegemite!!
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
21 Aug 21
I have not heard about Ravan but I know crows are believed to be clever. However, due to massive urbanization here in Delhi, we get to see less crows here
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@ptrikha_2 (47062)
• India
22 Aug 21
@dpk262006 Pigeons have overcrowded our cities and other birds are less common now.
@ptrikha_2 (47062)
• India
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv Pigeons have grown so much in numbers that they are now akin to pests. Earlier we used to like them. Now they are a nuisance and leave a lot of dirt and filth.
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@ptrikha_2 (47062)
• India
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv Yes and those which are not cleaned regularly and have no Netting suffer. I have seen many Statues getting dirtied by them.
@DianneN (247186)
• United States
21 Aug 21
Generally, crows are smaller than ravens, but they are both very intelligent birds as you pointed out. I had one go back and forth in a cawing competition in Florida.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv Yes, but I had to tell the crow to shut up!
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
24 Aug 21
@DianneN He 'talked' to a duck in a tree once. They had quite a conversation. The shelducks nested in the trees near our old place.
@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
Did you win? Vince does that with various birds but the little willy-wagtails don't find it amusing at all!!
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@DocAndersen (54402)
• United States
21 Aug 21
Ravens are larger - but other than that they are very closely related! we have a family of Ravens that lives in the trees behind our house!
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
But I'd need to get one next to the other before I could work out which was which and so far that hasn't happened.
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@DocAndersen (54402)
• United States
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv ah fair enough - we have both in Maryland, Ravens are the larger more dominant of the family here.
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• India
21 Aug 21
Yes crows are quite clever due to which we got the story of 'Thirsty Crow'
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
Yes, I read about the clever crow that managed to get a drink. I rescued a kookaburra once that fell in a trough trying to get a drink but then couldn't get out.
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• India
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv good
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@snowy22315 (181948)
• United States
21 Aug 21
Naughty, naughty birds. That sounds like something more a dog or cat would do honestly.
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@snowy22315 (181948)
• United States
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv They had a seagull on a Facebook video that went right into a convenience store and helped himself to a bag of chips. They said he has been doing it for years! You know the owners let him do it cuz they think it is funny..
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
Manipulating a zip blew me away somewhat. The birds do get very cheeky and used to human ways.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
@snowy22315 It would probably be good for business!!
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@ptrikha_2 (47062)
• India
22 Aug 21
Crows and Ravens unzipping bags? That is a news to me. Can't the bags be kept somewhere that is not an open place? Or does this happen during sports period?
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
Apparently, it happens in the school yard if the kids go off playing and leave their lunch box/bag unattended.
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@ptrikha_2 (47062)
• India
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv So may be that needs to be carefully looked into. Yet I feel that may be animals' behavior towards humans is gradually changing! But just a hypothesis.
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@ptrikha_2 (47062)
• India
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv We might see more changes in the coming future.
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• China
21 Aug 21
How clever they are ! What they do gets my jaw dropped in surprise and reminds me of your post on how a cockatoo opens the lid of trash can to look for food.
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• China
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv I learnt that some birds opened shellfish by dropping them from a height onto the rocks.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
They are certainly very smart. You have to wonder what else they'll learn. They are adapting very well to the human world.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
@changjiangzhibin89 It seems there are a few birds that have learnt to do that. Kookaburras will fly high with a snake then let it drop to break its back.
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@epiffanie (11326)
• Australia
28 Aug 21
I've read an article about them too.. very clever birds..
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@epiffanie (11326)
• Australia
29 Aug 21
@JudyEv Yes.. very smart.. Once I saw a couple of crows opening rubbish bin.. they worked as a team.. but they made a mess..
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Aug 21
They learn to use tools to get what they want too. Then teach others! That's pretty smart for birds.
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@xFiacre (13120)
• Ireland
21 Aug 21
@judyev Fossicking? Really? I must start using that word. I thought your article was going to about Men at Work.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
Fossick to me is a very common word but I'm always having to explain it to those in the US, Germany and now, it seems, Ireland. It is mostly used about gold-diggers 'fossicking' for nuggets.
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@xFiacre (13120)
• Ireland
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv It does sound somewhat rude.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
@Marty1 There is quite a bit of gold in some areas but most is now mined by big companies.
@noni1959 (10104)
• United States
22 Aug 21
I saw videos on these birds and they are so intelligent. I saw one steel a knife off a picnic table! What in the world would this bird need this for? I'm figuring it was shiny so wanted it. There is a woman in San Francisco that gives treats to crows who visit and they bring her back gifts like rocks, tin tops and such. It's so neat to know they are this smart.
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@noni1959 (10104)
• United States
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv that is so sweet. Crows are so fun to watch. Very bright. I was reading where a crow came down to a crime scene and took off with the knife. It took awhile to get the bird to drop lol.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Aug 21
@noni1959 A monkey on some island nicked my friend's new glasses but that's a bit different to a bird doing it.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
Aww - how nice is that that the crows bring gifts to her? I have a friend who is very attached to her house-cows and they will bring their babies to her to introduce them.
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@just4him (317250)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
26 Aug 21
Smart birds. It sounds like kids need locks on their backpacks so the crows/ravens won't get into them and steal their food.
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@just4him (317250)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
27 Aug 21
@JudyEv Yes, they do.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Aug 21
That's true and they need to hold on to their lunch boxes till they have finished their lunches.
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@cool83 (4467)
• Sri Lanka
22 Aug 21
I don`t like crows , how about you ? i have never searched about the ravens .
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
I don't like crows at all. I think they are sly.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Aug 21
@cool83 I agree. I don't like them at all.
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@cool83 (4467)
• Sri Lanka
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv The crows comes to dirty places , also crows are very selfish birds i guess , what do you think ?
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@RebeccasFarm (90295)
• Arvada, Colorado
21 Aug 21
Yes I love it along with Marmite
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• Arvada, Colorado
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv Yes it is
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
Marmite is the English version. It's very similar and we can buy it here too.
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@dgobucks226 (35716)
24 Aug 21
Ravens are larger in size and have a heavy bill compared to a crow. Their sounds are also distinct too, Ravens croak and crows caw. Crows wings are broader, shorter, and less pointed than Ravens. Then you have the Grackles which visit my yard for birdseed that drops from my feeder. They appear in hordes out of nowhere sometimes They are the size of Robins.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
25 Aug 21
I don't think we have grackles here. Thanks for the information too.
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@dgobucks226 (35716)
27 Aug 21
@JudyEv Sure thing!
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@oahuwriter (26777)
• United States
23 Aug 21
Smart indeed, but mischievous! Whi U where my backpack and rarely, I wear it opposite way, in front. It's perfect for bus riding. But, children might not know how to fend birds off safely without retribution from them.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
24 Aug 21
That's very true. Birds can get very cheeky sometimes.
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@oahuwriter (26777)
• United States
25 Aug 21
@JudyEv Very much so especially, being stopped from getting their food. Orinthologist best to consult about it.
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@porwest (92404)
• United States
22 Aug 21
They really are remarkable birds for their skill and prowess. Can't imagine being so clever as to steal lunches, but it's right there for the eyes to see. As for vegemite sandwiches I have never had one, and only ever heard of them when Men at Work mentioned them in a song. I have no idea what it is. I just know it doesn't SOUND very good. But again, I have never had one to make that judgement one way or the other.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Aug 21
Vegemite is a spread and used to be made from the residues of sugar cane. Not sure if that is still the case. It's very salty and maybe you need to be introduced to it as kids. lol
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@porwest (92404)
• United States
29 Aug 21
@JudyEv Hmm. Based on your description it honestly doesn't sound very appetizing. lol
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@CarolDM (203422)
• Nashville, Tennessee
21 Aug 21
Ravens seem to be smarter.
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@JudyEv (341726)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Aug 21
It's amazing they can manipulate zips.
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@CarolDM (203422)
• Nashville, Tennessee
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv I agree.
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@ThatDisha (4010)
• India
22 Aug 21
True crows are very clever, there is a famous kids story on crows intelligence where a thirsty crow when unable to drink water kept in a pot start adding pebbles to it so that the water level reaches on the top and he can drink it...i guess the story was the intelligence of crow or something like that
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@ThatDisha (4010)
• India
22 Aug 21
@JudyEv wow this is way too clever never can think a bird can do this too
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