Hit or Miss? It's All About Who's Singing

@porwest (94801)
United States
January 13, 2025 9:14am CST
I have often asked the question, what makes a song a hit or at least successful? Is it always the song, or is it just the person who releases it? Take any Taylor Swift song, and I always pick on her because she's probably the biggest thing in music these days. If anyone else released any of her songs would they take off like they do when she releases them? I would say no. Not at all. No one would likely ever hear her songs except that everyone will listen to Taylor Swift almost by default. Take this rather crappy song by Ringo Starr. Not that I can rightfully criticize. I write crappy songs too. NONE of MY crappy songs get nearly 200,000 views in a couple days of release. But Ringo Starr does, because he's Ringo Starr, even if he was probably the least popular of the Beatles. What say you? Is it who you are or is it the song?
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@just4him (318477)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
13 Jan
You wrote the same thing twice. As for what makes a song or anything else famous, Stephen King once wrote under a pen name to find out if he could get published. Not one publisher accepted his work. It's the name that sells.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
13 Jan
I just noticed that and have absolutely no idea how that happened. lol. I was like, WHAT? In any event, I have removed the repeated part. As for the Stephen King story that's a perfect example. Richard Bachman is Stephen King. But Steven King will get read and Richard Bachman? It's Richard Bachman who?
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@just4him (318477)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
13 Jan
@porwest I found it quite interesting that even he couldn't sell under another name.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
14 Jan
@just4him Until people got suspicious at some point and he came out and said it was him. Then suddenly the books flew off the shelves. It makes you think, if they couldn't fly off the shelves when they were by Richard Bachman, why did they fly off the shelves when people realized it was Stephen King? Did the stories suddenly become worth reading just because of who wrote them, or did people only avoid the good story because the person who wrote them was unknown?
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• United States
13 Jan
I'd have to say it's who you are. I think we're just conditioned to assume that someone as popular as Taylor Swift will have a good song.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
14 Jan
This is my sentiment exactly. Valerie reminded me of the Stephen King story when he wrote a few books under the pen name Richard Bachman wondering if his work or his name was what sold his books. The Bachman books did not sell well until he revealed that he was Richard Bachman, and when he did, they became best sellers.
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• United States
14 Jan
@porwest I've read many Stephen King books but probably would have bypassed them if they were under a different name.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
16 Jan
@Marilynda1225 That can be said about a lot of authors. I tended to be more open to new talent, but that was partly due to my editing days for FrightNet Online Magazine where you were exposed to a lot of unknowns who were quite good, and you had a platform to promote them. Michael Laimo was a big contributor to FrightNet and I even published one of his stories in the anthology Dark Whispers I edited. He was relatively unknown at the time and went on to have two TV movies made from his books, got published several times by our contributing editor, Don D'Auria who was the editor at Dorchester Publishing's Leisure Horror line... Good talent is out there. Unfortunately, it often takes someone in a position to show it to have it heard or read. In a place like FrightNet, your work could comfortably sit between other works by more famous authors who were published there like Peter Straub, Douglas Clegg, and people like that.
@kareng (64698)
• United States
13 Jan
I would say it is more about the person, but some about the song. Like 75% person and 125% the song.
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@kareng (64698)
• United States
14 Jan
@porwest I agree!
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
13 Jan
I tend to think of this often when I hear a great song by an unknown and wonder, what if Dua Lipa did this? Or Swift? Or Lady Gaga? Would it hit? I think a lot of these unknown songs are unknown because the person who wrote and performed them are unknown, and that sometimes a good song becomes a good song in our minds only because we like the performer who does them. Not always, but it does make me wonder sometimes.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
14 Jan
@kareng Valerie reminded me of the Stephen King story when he wrote under the pen name Richard Bachman wondering if it was the books or the author selling his books. The Bachman books only became best sellers when he revealed it was him who wrote them. The stories didn't suddenly become better. They were already good. But no one cared because Stephen King's name wasn't on them.
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@andriaperry (117683)
• Anniston, Alabama
13 Jan
The song.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
13 Jan
I don't know. I listen to a LOT of great music that lives in the dark shadows. None of it gets heard because the person who wrote it and performed it happens to not be someone famous. At the same time, there are a great many musicians out there like Elton John and Billy Joel that simply wrote great songs. But I do wonder, if someone else wrote and performed Piano Man, would it be the classic it is today without Billy Joel propelling it out to the masses because he was already famous? I wonder. Take this song, "Dive." I would take a wild guess that if Taylor Swift wrote and released this song by Lainey Wright, it would be a smash hit. But because it's Lainey Wright, hardly anyone even knows it exists.
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@Kandae11 (55391)
13 Jan
Who you are plays a big part in the success of the song - my opinion. Even if the song is not a hit at least you will have fans who will give it a listen.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
14 Jan
Yep. I think that is a HUGE part of it. People are familiar with certain people, and they gravitate towards what they know. It's that simple, really. Few people go looking for what they DON'T know. So, for those talented people who are unknown? It is MUCH harder for them, even if what they are doing is REALLY good. I find the same issue when it comes to my blogs. If I am not Shapiro or a part of Breitbart, or have a large platform to publish on? I am practically invisible even if I have a lot to say that is as good or better than what the big guys are saying. It's just the way it is.
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@grenery8 (11885)
• Zagreb, Croatia (Hrvatska)
16 Jan
sounds like a hippie song or a song that ringo didn't put a lot of effort into. i agree that artists' names get all the popularity and especially if they have a really stable fanbase.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
17 Jan
I think he's just doing his own thing and having fun with it as opposed to trying to be necessarily "good." At his age, and with his money, he doesn't need to be great. But he can afford to have all the fun he wants.
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@grenery8 (11885)
• Zagreb, Croatia (Hrvatska)
19 Jan
@porwest that's true. he is at the place and age where he doesn't need to care or to be under the stress.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
1h
@grenery8 I'd like to be at a place like that. Just do your thing, be happy, and if a few people like it? Great. All the more fun.
@JESSY3236 (20155)
• United States
14 Jan
I know this is about music, but that song reminds me of the movie Don't Look Up. Have you seen it? It's on Netflix.
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@porwest (94801)
• United States
16 Jan
It sounds familiar but it doesn't really ring a bell for me. I do remember a VERY old movie by the name, "Don't Look Back." It was a horror movie.
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@JudyEv (343960)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jan
Half the time it's who you are. That's how it seems to me.
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@lovebuglena (45085)
• Staten Island, New York
2h
Well, you aren’t Ringo Starr. But once you’re a big celebrity your stuff will sell out or get views or interactions, etc because of who you are, even if what you put out ain’t that great.