too much packaging
By onesiobhan
@onesiobhan (1327)
Canada
December 13, 2006 10:27pm CST
A woman in Toronto recently started a petition against a company that has been marketing a "breakfast bagel". It's a bagel wrapped in plastic with some containers of jam, and then the whole thing is on a cardboard backing and wrapped in another layer of plastic. The woman said she had never really been politically active before, but when she saw all that packaging it was just the last straw.
What do you think of the recent tendancy to put everything in layers and layers of packaging? Everything from Panty-liners to cookies are individually wrapped. Does it bother you? Do you prefer it? Why?
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22 responses
@michele609 (1687)
• United States
14 Dec 06
Now that is unbelievable, I think she should be fight against violence then worrying about a bagel, that is so immature.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
15 Dec 06
Every bit helps. This is her way of doing something for the environment. The petition has more than 1000 signatures by now. Crusading against excessive waste and waste pollution does not prevent her from fighting against violence either.
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@thewatchlist (653)
• United States
14 Dec 06
I don't really have much of an opinion on the packaging. I just thought I'd mention that I think it is odd that out of all the things that would be "the last straw" for this lady was a little excessive packaging.
I'm sure their are products packaged worse. Plus, what about things packaged in a way that very little is able to be recycled. Someone should let her know that people die and starve or are abused. Oh well though, I guess everyone needs a flag to wave.
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@faelady (161)
• Canada
14 Dec 06
It was because it was way excessive.
Bagel
packaged in a plastic box
with two condiments (peanut butter and jam)
packaged individually
within the plastic box
which was all wrapped up in a paper wrapper
Just ridiculous to the extreme, when you can just walk down the street to a corner store to get one freshly baked bagel in a brown paper (recyclable) bag.
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@thewatchlist (653)
• United States
16 Dec 06
...Just ridiculous to the extreme, when you can just walk down the street to a corner store to get one freshly baked bagel in a brown paper (recyclable) bag. ...
Yes, but it is about convenience to have the food in your house available and separated so that you can pick what you want to do about it. She could buy stuff to make the bagels herself and save walking down to the store and buying the bagel in a bag that might not end up getting re-recycled.
If she wanted to see wasteful at the grocery, they should look into how much fresh meat or veggies and fruit is thrown out due to spoiling right there in the store. Oh well though. : )
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
14 Dec 06
I wish I had seen that petition. It seems we are always going one step forward before another company sets us back another step. I like the expanding program of green containers for food waste to be recycled but if we permit excessive packaging we are adding to the garbage problem. Especially in Toronto where no one knows where to truck the garbage to since Michigan won't accept it anymore.
We all have a part to play. If we all insited on open displays of fruits and vegetables in the grocery stores instead of prepackaged we would save a whole lot.
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@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
15 Dec 06
The petition is here;
http://www.petitiononline.com/PKGREG/petition.html
The original article is here;
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1165924327245&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News
@brokentia (10389)
• United States
15 Dec 06
I like the individually wrapped, my kids can grab things as snacks for school.
Panty liners individually wrapped, heck...why would I want to care around an open panty liner. What if it fell out, then it is not clean and everyone definitely knows what it is. Then there is a matter of safety and freshness. Packaging helps to air lock it to prevent it from going bad and keep a fresh taste. Then there are so many sickos out there, that much packing lets me know if it has been tampered with.
So, yes, I prefer individually wrapped and well packaged. however, there is so thing as it being too much. Like, have you ever tried to take a Barbie out of a box? Not easy!!! ha ha
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@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
16 Dec 06
Why do you have to buy it that way though? I have tuperware containers and plastic baggies and I put things in them and re-use them hundreds of times. That creates much less waste - and cost. Those individually wrapped items are expensive.
@hockeygal4ever (10021)
• United States
27 Dec 06
It does bother me. I truly remember when we purchased sanitary napkins and they were all in a box. We put them in our purse and that was that. It's not exactly a huge secret when one falls out in that lovely packaging that it's a pad! DUH! lol I think that was the original intent, to keep it "quiet" in your purse. Like people don't know you have them. And to be honest, I think there is so much overpackaging, especially in food, because of the fear of being sued if something is tampered with.
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@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
28 Jan 07
I don't get why women are so ashamed of the fact that they are normal, healthy and fertile.
Maybe we're all supposed to be so anorexic we stop menstruating. I don't know.
@angel_manders (912)
• Canada
14 Dec 06
i think the only reason that they are doing it this way now is because of all the people who steal stuff. they must think that it is alot harder if they are double wrapped or tripple. they have even put toys in plastic that is hard to open when you buy them so that people wont steal them. i think that i am starting to prefer that way they do it because then i know that everything that is supposed to be in the container is going to be there. or that it hasnt been tampered with and is going to work.
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@icequeen (2840)
• Canada
14 Dec 06
No..it doesn't bother me. Especially if they are packing containers or stuff like the jam. I would rather get everything whole than run the risk of having something broken...or harmed in any way. I think people like this need to concentrate on other more important things...
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@nancygibson (3736)
• France
24 Dec 06
This really bugs me, there is no reason to wrap goods in layers and layers on non biodegradable packaging. I refuse packaging whenever possible and will always buy a less wrapped product if I possibly can. These companies have zero respect for the environment and should be seriously penalized for such shocking waste
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@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
2 Feb 07
Over all, I guess to me, I cannot really see the Big deal. And when it comes to Food, is it not for our protection, and to help keep the Food fresher for longer? I guess the only issue might be if they forget to remove the old food it would be harder to see in, but in Reality overall, I see nothing wrong with this.
@timou87 (1638)
• Singapore
24 Dec 06
I wholeheartedly agree with this lady. She has gotten her priorites right. Why protest against a war when in the end the government is just going to shoot you down saying that you are not a patriot and the war is going to carry on anyway, since the Middle East is full of oil? Environmentalism is something the common person can have an impact on, and climate change has the potential to do more harm than all the wars in history put together. It bothers me how some people can be so indifferent to this issue. Even if its just one bagel, imagine the amount of needless packaging if there were 1000 or 10,000 bagels sold each week! Its a trash mountain!
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@magikrose (5429)
• United States
15 Dec 06
The packaging really dosnt bother me that much. All they are trying to do is enshure you get everything you are saposed to get instead of having you or anyone else comeback and complain that they did not get everything they were saposed to get. I can understand why.
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@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
15 Dec 06
I have to agree. I hate it when things are overpackaged.
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@funfreak2k2 (1734)
• India
15 Dec 06
the woman has done a very good thing. this will prevent other companies from doing such things and deceiving people.
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@faelady (161)
• Canada
14 Dec 06
I don't know if you listen to CBC in the morning, but they had a follow-up to this discussion.
A VP from Canada Bread (which owns Dempsters) was talking to Andy Barry, as "the other side of the story". Besides using adjectives such as "nutricious", "delicious", and "convienient" way too much, she was pressing the point that though there are those who don't appreciate this packaging, their research indicated that there was a consumer market for "quick, convienient bagels that could be eaten at any time". Freakin' all about trying to make a quick buck. Oh, and apparently the shelf life is 30 days!!!
Andy mentioned that in Germany, the cost of gathering all waste and recyling packaging was on the producer's side - not the city or tax payer. This means that the cost for recovering the packaging, or even the used product itself, is included in the total production cost.
I would bet you that if Dempsters had to include that cost into their formula, there would be no way that they could afford to make this product.
@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
15 Dec 06
That's a great idea. If people want to have all the extra packaging they should have to pay the price of disposing of it.
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
14 Dec 06
Yes, it does bother me when I buy a product and it has a ton of packaging. It is such a waste of money and resources. I have noticed that more and more companies seem to be doing less environmentally friendly acts. We should all be concered about that.
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@sirensanssmile (3764)
• Netherlands
15 Dec 06
I don't think anything about packaging but I do think this lady has too much time on her hands. She could get behind a bigger issue if she wants to go get environmental on everyone.... She could petition for car emission laws or something.
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@econger (164)
• United States
14 Dec 06
It's interesting to me that you started this discussion. I have not heard about this particular incident, but recently I have been really paying attention to the amount of waste/trash that I, one single person, generate in any given week. It's really sort of disturbing, and I believe it has a lot to do with the way various items are packaged and sold. Multiply what I can produce times however many billions of people there are in the world and the result is an awful lot of trash. Where are we going to put it all? Recycling is good for things that can be recycled, but what about everything that isn't or can't be? It really is something to think about.
I'm not an enviornmentalist or activist of any sort, I just sort of boggle at the amount of garbage the world produces-- often through unnecessary packaging materials.
@robertofootball (264)
• Canada
14 Dec 06
yeah. People like that should be locked up.
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