New myLot feature, 500 rating threshold, is this a good feature?

@jimbl75 (152)
United States
December 28, 2006 9:06am CST
As most of you know, you now have to have a rating of 500 or more to be able to upload photos into discussions and to be able to paste text when creating or responding to discussions. Is this really a good feature though? First, will it promote spamming? Sure, it's a goal for new users, but is it also promoting quantity over quality? Second, as I browse myLot, obviously the worst offenders of copy and paste and uploading photos that aren't relevant have over 500, they have to now. But, I am also noticing that most of these offenders have WELL OVER 500, in the 1000's for ratings. So did we just reward the worst offenders by allowing ONLY them to abuse the system? I don't know, I honestly find the new features useful and hurtful all at the same time. Personally, I pride myself on quality over quantity, and think that myLot has taken features away from honest users like myself and given them to the already worst abusers of the system. Just some thoughts, what do you think? Good feaures? Bad features? And try to be objective regardless of what your user rating is. Obviously most of you that have a rating over 500 could care less about the features because it doesn't effect you, but try to think of the honest users that could take MONTHS or more to reach 500. Jim
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@kellahinx (370)
• United States
28 Dec 06
I am also unsure about the new restrictions. i try make quality repsonses to discussions but i feel like this is targeting the wrong people. they should have a feature, like on aim, where people get warnings when they are rated negatively so then they can't copy and paste or upload photos, or even start discussions until they wait and their warning level goes down. i think that would be more effective. i had a problem with this rule already because i was trying to respond to a topic that discussed rape, but mylot kept not loading my response and deleting everything i had written and i couldn't figure out which word they were having a problem with. so i would copy what i had typed before i had submitted it so i wouldn't lose everything again, but i wasn't able to paste it back in. it was a real hassel and i was genuinely trying to respond to a discussion with good information. i think in theory the rule is a good one, but like you said, it is targetting the wrong people.
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@jimbl75 (152)
• United States
28 Dec 06
Good post. You bring up something else that I forgot to talk about. Like I said, I believe in quality over quantity. Well, from time to time, I spend a good bit of time posting a quality reply, only to have the sytem bug out when I try to post it. In the past, I learned to quick copy all my text before trying to post it. This way, if I lost my post, I could just return to the topic and paste it in. It was all my original writing and thoughts, but now I am just left frustrated and not wanting to reply when it happens. I agree, the general thought behind the new features are sound, but I believe they are to black and white. Like you said, maybe a way to penalize those that get certain levels of negative ratings would be better. Good ideas. Jim
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• United States
28 Dec 06
I think rather than drawing an arbitrary number for people to reach it should be a situation where all have access to this feature (I had the exact same problem you mentioned) but LOOSE that ability if they have misused it. When someone misuses cut and paste, it is often reported. Once it's looked at ML takes off the post if it's truly inappropriate. How mnuch harder would it be to also remove that users ability to cut/paste? Even set a time limit. First time offense, loose it for a week. Second offense a month. Third offense, loose it forever. (three strikes and you're out!) Just my thoughts on the subject.
@tambdy (1967)
28 Dec 06
It does not take months to reach 500 i am nearly at it after a month, although i would say that the features are better because only people who are top users will be able to post. I think that this will stop all the spammers from reaching payouts by posting alot of photo's and typing in 2 word sentances because mylot are now deleting there topics.
@tambdy (1967)
28 Dec 06
I never meant to offend you and i understand what you are saying but i think i covered that part of it when i spoke about spammers and there 2 word sentances. ;)
@jimbl75 (152)
• United States
28 Dec 06
Like I've said already, what is easy for you isn't easy for everyone. Plus, you are missing my point- just because someone has 500 or more posts doesn't necessarily mean they are a "top user". It could be 500 quality posts, or 500 yes and no posts, far different in my opinion. I have a rating of 80, and I've seen some spammers with over 500, shoot maybe over 1000 that probably have typed far less words than I have. Jim
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@jewel76 (2305)
• Canada
28 Dec 06
I totally agree with you. The offenders are way over 500 posts by now, and they will continue to add up to their posts, while we, honnest users, are stuck below 500. It does make you wanna post just about anything to reach that 500 and be able to post quality pictures to your posts. I'm not saying that's what i'm doing, i am not too far from the 500 mark, but it might influence good users to botch it up a bit. My Lot should definately review this new rule.
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@jricbt (1454)
• Brazil
28 Dec 06
I think it is a good feature. It is not a question of quantity over quality but a way to prevent bad users to fill up mylot of photos, many that have nothing to do with the discussion. When one reaches 500 it is a greater possibility that he/she is more used to mylot rules and ways, at least it is what I think.
@jaypul (185)
• United States
28 Dec 06
Those users will be dealt with through their moderation process. You think of all the negatives but none of the positives.
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@shyam4uall (1002)
• India
28 Dec 06
I am totally aginst the new guidelines designed by this community.The first change that is the case of uploading pictures,I think it had deprieved many new users of their source of earning..because as in may case I have make a good amount by uploading relevant pics. Another change that the priviledged members can now copy and paste discussions and responses,then I can say that it is promoting some sort of discrimination between the users..and it is making quantity superior over quality.
@jimbl75 (152)
• United States
28 Dec 06
Thanks you! I think you understand what I am trying to say. The features sound good at first, but the more I browse myLot, the more I realize the new features may just be promoting quantity over quality. If someone is here to scam the system, it'll just take them longer to get there now, while at the same time taking the features away from a lot of users. Jim
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• United States
28 Dec 06
I think this new feature is unfair. It's going to take me a long time to reach a level of 500. I have posted pictures and have never copy or pasted anything, so why do the oldtimers on here get to do these things when I can't even though I've been a good poster and member of mylot. It's not fair, and hopefully they will reverse this when they see that it really is not working at stopping the spamming. We'll have to wait and see I suppose!
• United States
29 Dec 06
i see both points of this topic but i understand the frustration. I have a hard time earning ratings because i am not on the computer that often, one of reasons why i do get on is to do mylot. but i am on dial up and it takes forever to load up. so those images did help earn money. One question though...how do you know what images are copyrighted and what arent? where can you find images that are approved to be posted on here. but back to the subject at hand. i think it is a great idea for those who have been members for a certain length of time, to to get some credit, maybe not earn any money but some right to post images.+
@jimbl75 (152)
• United States
28 Dec 06
I have another thought. Maybe how long you've been a member should have merit also. Anyone can spam 500 posts, that's going to happen. But maybe people that have been here over 30 days, or 45 days, I don't know what that number should be- AND they have over 100 or 150 posts, they also get those features. So for example, I am a quality poster. Lets say the thresholds are 30 days and 100 posts. Well I know I am close to 30 days if not over 30 days, but currently only have 80 as a rating. So I can continue to post quality discussions and replies, and at the same time know I will sooner rather than later be rewarded with more features. The time period will give quality posters a chance to sooner benefit, while still teaching new users how it should work. The 500 threshold can stay, some may get 500 posts in a few days or week, that's going to happen regardless of the TIME threshold. Thoughts anyone? Thanks, Jim
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• United States
29 Dec 06
I think this feature is alright cause I'm already over the 500 mark. I started on MyLot back in September so it took me a while to get to this point. You made a good point though. There ARE a lot of people who are over 500 BECAUSE they cheated and were copy pasting things. I guess in a way they are rewarding the cheaters.
@sbeauty (5865)
• United States
29 Dec 06
I reached 500 my first week, and during that time I was so busy answering all the postings I felt I could contribute to that I didn't have time to worry about uploading pictures. Too many new people are coming here expecting to earn big money fast. If that's what someone is here for, they need to leave. This is #1 a discussion site. That we earn a little money is a perc. I've had people with ratings as low as 0 request to be my friend. I always check over their profile before saying yes or no. I find many who have posted numerous discussions (often without checking to see if they've already been done) and have already made a lot of friends. To me this says that they want people to help them make money, but they don't want to reciprocate. How can you have 75 friends and have never made a post to one of their discussions? I always turn these people down. I haven't noticed the pictures, but I would imagine that mylot has seen a lot of abuse of the picture downloads from new people who aren't actively participating in the discussions. You'll find that mylot works hard at improving this site. Try getting used to it before complaining about the way they are running it. If you have a concern, go to the bottom of the page and hit "Contact us" to send a message directly to mylot.
@arun687 (517)
• India
28 Dec 06
well...i think it wasn't a necessary restriction...because i've been here in mylot since about 2 months..thou i dont work for hours and hours together...i do put in a few minutes almost everyday...and the 500 rating is still a long way from now..but i know for sure that there are many genuine users who don't spam mylot and provide quality content...but have rating much less than 500...not even a 3 figure...so i think it should solely depend on the rate abuse button '!' mylot has provided and it should determine if users are spamming or not..
@jimbl75 (152)
• United States
28 Dec 06
Sounds like you are kind of like me in posting, we don't have a lot of time to post like crazy in the quality we do. They should introduce a Time threshold also. For instance, no matter what, when you make it to 500 you get the features. But also you could get them if you have been here over 30 days AND have over 100 posts. Just a thought. Jim
@sharon613 (2321)
• United States
29 Dec 06
your right, It should be the quality and not the quantity. Perhaps, Mylot should think twice about changing this feature to help the newcommers get to there goals alot quicker.
• United States
28 Dec 06
I don't really like it because I was not abusing it and now, when I try to copy paste a long link I am unable to and I can't upload meaningful pics. Once I reach the magic number of 500 then I will be able to, but in the mean time I think my responses are missing out on some good stuff. And, as you already said I see a lot of people with 500 plus responses and they are writing yes no, poll type questions. Like do you like your name? What kind of question is that. How is that a discussion? Do people actually care wether I like my name?
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
28 Dec 06
I cannot disagree that the practice of posting silly YES or NO type questions still exists, but you must have noticed the decline over the past few weeks. These discussions are being systematically removed and the originator's rating is being reduced accordingly, so they are not profiting from it in the long run. Look on the positive side, if you keep making responsible posts then when you reach 500 you will stay there while others go in the opposite direction.
• Canada
30 Dec 06
I can understand why myLot wants to encourage people to post quality topics and pictures, and that making a posting threshhold for posting pictures is a nice goal for users, but I'm wondering if the 500 mark is a bit too high. You make an excellent point about users with high rankings being the people who post a lot of one liners. Perhaps myLot can adjust this limit to something lower, but add a component of looking at how many "+" ratings a user has received? That might be a bit more fair. ~Wyrdsister
@hamza123 (981)
• Pakistan
29 Dec 06
yes it is a very good scheme.as it will stop the scams and people from copying the posts of people
@mikaghi (388)
• United States
28 Dec 06
hmm there is no point in participating in a discussion if all u want to do is copy and paste and not express ur honest opinion. it defeats the whole purpose of mylot, in my view. this feature will help those who are here just to make quick bucks, but don't have plans to contribute worthwhile views.
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@kstanley7 (1171)
29 Dec 06
Actually I feel that this is a good feature, as think about it, it restricts what spammers can actually do when it comes to posting. The Admin of mylot try their best to keep mylot clean from spammers and I think this is what they felt was necessary.
@forfein (2507)
29 Dec 06
Hi The problem with abusers of the system, is that you have to start somewhere! Yes, you are right, there are abusers who are in the 1000 post bracket, and they have got there purely by cheating!! But.............. Then there are posters like my self and a few others who are DETERMINED that these guys will be "Wheelded Out" Just like the "Bad Apples" in a barrel, you have to find them, before they can corrupt the rest!! New users to my lot are going to find it hard to reach the 500 target, yes, I did!! It takes a long time!! But when you get there, you will know the value of quality posts, and then you will be as "Pissed Off" as the rest of us are, when you see people who just litterally cut and paste various topics!!!
@edelweiss (1929)
• India
29 Dec 06
yes, I think is good. no if you are regular user then you can reach that limit in a couple of weeks. if you are anyway there to post 2-3 messages a day then why are you worried so much. i am not sure you have any photos to share but you have to complain for the sake of it. i dont understand why people dont understand rules and they always seems to have problem with them.
@raj0019 (2623)
• Argentina
29 Dec 06
we cant stop offenders to abuse this system, we can only report them. Rest is up to admins here. New mylot feature will make people to work harder to reach that status where they could post pictures too, it will help mylot to get some permanent members here. Because i know, once you start involving here, you cant escape easily.
• Pakistan
29 Dec 06
Yeah i think its has a brighter side much brighter than the darkness of the darker side,so it was very important to stop spamming ,as some new members really tried to cheat the system by just copying and pasting the posts aand they dont bouther it was relevant or not.
@missjackie (1357)
• Ypsilanti, Michigan
29 Dec 06
I think it's a big potential for abusers to cheat the system.