Name Brands and Kids
By emeraldisle
@emeraldisle (13139)
United States
December 30, 2006 3:12pm CST
Not that long ago I had taken a friend to a pantry. My friend is on disability and has a hard time making ends meet. Well at this pantry not only could she get food but also they had a lot of clothes to pick from. So I was helping her to look through some clothes and I found some in her daughter's size and showed them to her. My friend stated that unless it was Tommy Hilfiger her daughter would not wear it. That she'd have to buy her clothes for school later on.
My personal thought was my friend couldn't afford to go out and buy name brand jeans, shirts etc. What is so important about having someone's name on my buttock or splashed across my chest? Isn't it more important to teach kids the value of a dollar and that quality and cost is more important then who made it?
Am I the only one who sees a big problem with this happening?
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53 responses
@shoelover (896)
• Australia
30 Dec 06
No you are not the only one. When all my children were small they did not have name brand clothes or shoes ect. Now they have moved out of home with their partners they have decided all they will wear is name brand clothing. These clothes don't last any longer than cheaper clothes but cost heaps more. I don't see the sense in this at all. One of my daughters took my youngest son out for his birthday and got him name brand clothes for his birthday. She spent over $140 for a shirt, shorts and hat. I could have bought at least 6 or 7 different outfits for this amount.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
30 Dec 06
A $140 for just that? Can she adopt me? I can think of a lot I can buy for that much. Of course I shop Wal-Mart, Ross and other stores with good clothes just better prices. I agree I can't see the sense in that either. I'd much rather have clothes that won't put me in debt.
@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
30 Dec 06
I hate the favoritism to brand name clothes. If the clothes are well made and look good, what does it matter? I think I own maybe two bran name pieces of clothing. One was a gift and the other I found at Goodwill. I think it's insane to spend money on brand name clothes. I don't see the point to it. People want status symbols, and it bugs me. Status symbols do nothing but further rifts between the ''haves' and the 'have nots'.
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@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
31 Dec 06
I love Goodwill. I shop at second hand stores all the time, and I end up with clothes that are better made and look better than a lot of the stuff in department stores!
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
31 Dec 06
Oh yeah. I love thrift stores especially if I'm looking for something that I won't wear that often. You know something for a wedding or the like where you need something fancy. Why shell out a couple of hundred dollars for a dress when I can go to Goodwill and get one for under 10?
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@pookie92 (1714)
• United States
30 Dec 06
it is harder as they get older, mine are 7 9 and 11. They have been taught the art of being thrifty. When we go to the store, they will pick the store brand cereal instead of the expensive brand, put it in the cart, and tell me how much money they saved by doing it. I guess it rubs off after a while.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
30 Dec 06
That is great. One that they will do that but also figure out the savings. It does rub off and they learn from us on how they should buy things. If we splurg and go crazy buying only name brand they learn to follow that example.
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@ElusiveButterfly (45940)
• United States
30 Dec 06
Tell that woman a bit of advice from a mother of 4 who raised them alone. Beggars can't be choosers. How old is her daughter? My daughter is also a setting herself up for some heavy duty crap later on down the road when my grandson comes of age when he will refuse to wear anything other than name brands. She will buy him name brands and tells him that it is the best. He is only 5 years old.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
30 Dec 06
Her daughter is 14 and I agree beggars can't be choosers. I get stuff off freecyle, friends who don't want things anymore etc. My thought is if it looks good who cares who made it. I agree your daughter is going to find out eventually just how much clothes, especially for kids, can cost because they don't last due to them growing.
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@hannarose27 (514)
• United States
30 Dec 06
I have a friend just like that which is nice for me in a way since her daughter is 10 months older than mine. So I get the hand me downs. My kids are almost 3 and 8 months. I shop for most of their clothes at the dollar store or walmart. I hit the clearance racks and have been known to but discounted stuff a size or 2 larger so that I don't have to worry when the time comes. At their age all that matters is that they have clothes on. Why pay for a high dollar outfit when all their going to do is go play in the mudd. Her kids are older and need to know that mommys not a money tree. 20$ jeans at walmart are just as good as tommy or mudd jeans are.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
30 Dec 06
Got to love hand me downs. Those are great especially at that age since they out grow them so fast. I also love the dollar store. Exactly why spend 40 dollars or more for a pair of jeans that are just going to be played in, written on, or what have you. To me it's silly especailly when it's with kids who out grow them so fast and then you are out a lot of money and have to replace it all.
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@dragonstar13 (1465)
• United States
31 Dec 06
Hand me downs. Yup gotta love them.
My sister and I have 18 grandkids between the two of us, aged newborn - 11 years old. Most live in the same city and clothes get passed around, back and forth, and up and down. We do our shopping at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Sears and ebay. Once in a while someone gets a brand name as a gift or splurges with their allowance.
The kids grow so fast it not unusual for an outfit to be used by four or five different children before wearing out. Not only does this save a lot of money on clothing, but the kids have a built in peer group who all dress similarly thus reducing the pressure to spend, spend, spend on designer names.
Also the public schools in our area are going to uniforms so the kids are turning to other areas to define their individuality, such as music, dance and sports.
Of course, that is a whole other money pit. But I much rather spend 300.00 dollars on a musical instrument than a pair of designer jeans with rips, tears and holes already in them.
@mygreyparrot (1461)
• United States
30 Dec 06
Well Tommy isn't real the highest end stuff anymore. It can be bought at discount stores now. Is it possible she thrift shops, ebay's, or garage sales for this stuff? The only good thing about buying name brands is they can be resold for almost what you paid for them. That's the great part of Ebay! I don't have kids yet, but I know I'll buy them nice things I can resell when they outgrow them. Now if she's paying full retail, not reselling them, and can't afford them..Then she shouldn't be buying them. It sounds like the daughter is a spoiled brat.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
30 Dec 06
No she went on to say how she'd have to go up to the mall and fight with the crowds there. I agree if she was buying them at goodwill, ebay or something similar that is one thing but she wasn't. She planned on buying them at full price. I can not side with her on that one at all.
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@rainbow (6761)
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2 Jan 07
My kids do not care, the 7 year old used to have designer when he was small but now there is 2 of them I do not buy it unless it's on offer. I think I may have problems later on but right now I'm getting Supermarket clothes and crossing my fingers it lasts.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
2 Jan 07
It can last if the child learns the value of the dollar. My niece is 12 and doesn't have a problem with buying clothes at Wal-Mart. Yeah now and then she might get something at Hot Topic but it is the clearence items. She is the first one to admit when things are too expensive.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
4 Jan 07
She is nuts. Like others said "beggars can't be choosers". If she is going to a pantry for food she should not be spending her money on name brand stuff. That is just wrong. The money should be going for food first. I can't stand people like that.
I have 4 kids and the last time I bought something name brand for them was when my oldest was about 4 months old and I bought a dress and 2 shirts at the Gap for her. I had a gift card and got the stuff on sale. I spent $15 total, lol. The shirts are now being worn by my youngest. They have been through 4 kids and are in great condition but I can't afford to shop at places like that any more.
I only buy at Wal-mart of Target, that includes clothes for myself. My kids do have name brand stuff in their drawers (mostly the girls) and they are all hand-me-downs or I bought them at the Salvation Army. Just a couple months ago a friend gave me some boy jeans. They were for my son but too small but I took them anyway and gave them to my 4 year old daughter. They are Tommy Hilfiger, Gap and a pair of Ralph Loren overalls that she loves. There was over $100 worth of pants.
Most of the stuff the girls has came from my friend whose daughter is 1 year and 1 day older then my oldest. I got all of her old stuff and she had so much that most of it was only worn once or twice. Hand me down's rock! So does the Salvation Army. I wish we had one here. We have a thrift store but they have almost no children's clothes. I got my son an Old Navy shirt, got the girls 2 jeans and 2 shirts (1 pair of jeans was designer and the shirts were from Children's Place) and a pair of jeans for my son at the Salvation Army one day and spent like $8. My son wore the shirt for his birthday pictures when he turned 3. He finally outgrew it and I had to pack it away.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
4 Jan 07
Very well said. I agree you can find good deals and personally I'd rather buy something for a few dollars and know I got a good deal then to buy something and spend fifty dollars and then find out I got ripped for it.
Hand me downs are great as are thrift stores. They can really make it great for kids. So many, especially when they are little, out grow the clothes before they out wear them. If you have people you can pass the clothes down to it makes it so much easier. If not you can always donate it or put them up on Freecyle. Another good place to buy are garage sales. You can find some good deals there.
@DeeBloomers (688)
• United States
30 Dec 06
I agree with you. It doesn't make any sense does it? Because of it there is an awful lot of kids being brought up not having a clue of the value of a dollar! They want it! They pitch a fit until they get it, and get away with it! Go figure!
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
30 Dec 06
OH I know. And they can pitch a fit sometimes. I've seen them. I also knew kids back when I was younger who wouldn't dream of shopping at Kmart or Wal-mart. That was uncool. My thought is go for the best buy, quality and price.
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@Withoutwings (6992)
• United States
2 Jan 07
I can see this situation from several different angles. When I was little, money was tight. My mom bought clothes for my brothers and I at places like Kmart and thrift stores. The worse thing was having Kmart shoes. For some reason all the kids at school knew what brand of sneakers Kmart made, and they would make fun of us. We were so embarressed. I really would look forward to Christmas when my aunt would buy me an outfit from the JC Pennies catalog.
My cousins were the exact opposite. They always got name brand stuff. Even if their mom had to put in extra hours. Sometimes they got hand-me-down from the neighbors. But it always was Bennington, Guess, etc.
The outcome? I refuse to spend excessively on clothes. I have guilt when I do. My brother went to the other extreme and will only buy trendy hipster clothes with Diesel labels. My cousins are going to school and working full time so they can redo their whole wardrobe every season.
So I agree, you should teach kids value... but at the same time - has your friend checked consignment shops and thrift stores to find name brand stuff really cheaply? I think that it's important to have clothes you feel comfortable in for self esteem issues. I disagree with allowing your child to say they will only wear one brand. How old is her daughter? Maybe it's time for her daughter to get a job.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
2 Jan 07
I grew up on K-mart special (my dad worked there) and I never had a problem with that. The only time I did was back in first or second grade and I was wearing cotton blouses and some of the girls were wearing the silky/satiny type. Then I'd hear it. Other then that never had a problem.
She might have. I figured it was best to drop the subject before I said something I shouldn't. I agree there can be some good deals found though at thrift shops and other things like that. Her daughter is 14, so she might be able to babysit but that's about it.
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@hockeygal4ever (10021)
• United States
26 Jan 07
Unfortunately she probably sees that if her daughter doesn't "fit in" she will be marked as "one of the poor kids" and made fun of. Children can be so cruel. I for one have always taught my children that you are what you are and money does not make the person. I've dealt with multi millionaires that I wouldn't give the time of day to, simply because they lack in morals. While I've had bums on the street share a table with me and enjoyed their company more than anything.
It's sad that it happens, but I can understand in some ways too. What I used to do was buy the name brand items from the Salvation Army in mint condition. Nobody knew the better!
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I do understand how kids can be cruel but sometimes we have to be realistic too. I agree going to salvation army is a good alternative. However even there finding clothes for a teenager can be limited especially when you are looking for only a couple of brand names.
@linepau1 (188)
• Canada
2 Jan 07
As a teen, usually I'm expected to appreciate brand name clothing over all. I have my favorites, but I'm not limited to them. I buy certain names because they fit me better. I'm a 5 foot nothing 18 year old with strong thick legs. It's difficult to find jeans that fit properly. Usually if the leg fits, the waist is to small, or if the waist fits, the legs are much to long. Sometimes names such as Bongo Jeans fit me well so I stick to them. But I also have a job. My parents haven't bought me clothing I NEEDED in forever. They buy me it because they feel like it if they ever do.
I can't speak much for Americans, but I've noticed that it's not many Canadians that care about brand name, unless as I noted above, it's just what fits. Of course, not all people are the same, and we have those that just LOVE their brandnames. Especially with West Edmonton Mall (worlds largest mall) near by.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
2 Jan 07
I do understand about the fit. When I was a teen they seemed to think women only went up to 5'6 at most. I was 5'8 almost 5'9 and if I bought women's jeans I wore what we called floods back then. I often had to buy men's jeans so that they would fit in the legnth. When they came out with the tall, average, short I was in heaven. I could buy ones that fit in the legnth right.
@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
26 Jan 07
If she needed to go to the food pantry to get food, then she should NOT be worrying about wearing name brand clothes!
I think that's a crock. Thank goodness, my girls could care less if there clothes are name brand. We buy almost all our clothes from Walmart of some other discount store. You can get three or four outfits for the same price as the name brands and they are just as good!
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I agree with you. My neice is the same way. Don't get me wrong she likes getting things at Hot Topic or the like but she saves up her money and waits for them to go on sale. She looks at the price and thinks most things are too much for things. She'll go to Wal-Mart to find similar.
@tba123 (457)
• United States
30 Dec 06
Every once in a while I'll buy a name brand clothing item but for the most part it doesn't matter about brand name to me.
I think it does to kids because of peer pressure. Trying to fit in with everyone else, and a lot of parents given to help their kids fit in.
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@lovelylizzie (327)
• United States
31 Dec 06
tommy hilfiger isn't that great of a brand name, I'd rather let me kids wear mossimo (target) than tommy hilfiger. Tommy doesn't have much style. oh well, to each their own.
I think it's important to teach your child style and fashion. and to work hard to earn these brand names if you know how to wear them.
Like I said, to each his own. kids at school will be looking to my kids for advice when it comes to what they should be wearing and I'm going to be one proud momma.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
31 Dec 06
I agree I don't really care for his stuff either and I don't understand why some go nuts over it. To me I'd rather buy clothes that fit and wear well, will last a while and that look good on me.
@michele609 (1687)
• United States
31 Dec 06
I feel the same way you do, I try not toput any name brand on my children becasue I do not want them to adapt to that type of life style. Don get me wrong I love dressing them in nice clothes but not something that is going to cost me more them a care lol! But I have ran into many people just like that and it s horrible. I have 5 yr old twins and on time I brought them a pair of timberlang boots and the next day they were destroyed. So I learnd my lesson!
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
31 Dec 06
Oh no what a way to learn though. I know those boots weren't cheap at all. You have a good point though especially with kids. They are rough on clothes. I know I was and I wasn't as bad as some where. What good is it to spend $75 on a pair of jeans only to get bike grease all over them? They are just as ruined as the $15 pair.
@krizz420 (4385)
• Canada
31 Dec 06
I see the problem. My mom is on disability and I never asked her for those kinds of things. I was always taught if you want something really bad go out and work for it dont sit around waiting for someone to buy it for you. I really feel for your friend cause my mom always felt the we needed the best to fit in properly so she went without alot of things while me and my sister had everything. Im now grown and my mom barely gets by on what she gets now and shes had an anurisum (I know its spelled wrong)so she can barley walk so working is out of the question. I try to help all I can but again I know excatly how your friend feels and it very sad.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
31 Dec 06
It could be my friend just wanted the clothes for her daughter and not the daughter, I do agree there. I don't know for sure. It's not something I'd ask the daughter on since that could cause some major problems in their relationship.
@14missy (3183)
• Australia
1 Jan 07
Its a horrible world we live in when the children won't wear anything but name brands. As usual mum or dad would have gone without so the kids have it, instead of teaching them that the name doesn't make you a better person. My daughter is 12 and she will wear most things as long as they look good. She has a unique sense of taste and can put together some inexpensive things that look great. She also tries to get expensive stuff at times but knows we can't afford it, so I do give in for a special occaision.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
1 Jan 07
My niece is the same way. She can have expensive tastes but she knows the value of a dollar and that somethings are just too expensive. She wears what we can get at Walmart etc. She knows how to put things together to make a statement. She's also 12 and all she cares about is her own sense of style. She thinks its crazy to buy things that are too expensive as well.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
31 Dec 06
I agree it is. I can't afford them either right now but even when I could I learned quickly it wasn't worth the extra cost. They just weren't that much better in quality to worry about it.
@mahogany70802 (8)
• United States
31 Dec 06
Yes I see this as a problem. Children don't value the dollar anymore. I think that it is the fault of the parents because they give in to the children's ridculous requests. Therefore, letting the children know that paying for name brand clothing all the time is ok. Why not let the child know if we buy this cheaper pair then maybe can get 2 pair instead of one pair, or if we buy the cheaper pair then we apply the rest to grocery. I know being a single parent I have taught my children that I am on a budget, there is nothing wrong with wearing clothing from Walmart. I emphasize as long as you are clean (physically and clothing) that everything is ok.
The bottom line to this discussion is peer pressue. Teens trying to fit in with their peers. We need to teach our children that is ok to be different even if others are not willing to accept it.