Should she be picked out of the Air Force?

Well my hubby is in the military and I do know that there was a ton of paper work he had to fill out when he joined. THe only thing I can say about this is that if she signed off on it that she would not do anything like that then yes. That is what most comapanies do when there is a paper trail on you not just the military. But as for me being a civilian NO I do not think she should be hurt by this in any way. She should have not worn her dog tags. What do you think since you started this one nad did not answer it yourself?

My husband is in the marine corps. and I know for a fact that he was told that doing something like this whether on his own time or not is unbecoming of a marine. I have asked him if he would ever do something like this and he always says no because he knows full well that he would lose his career. The fact that she wore her dog tags shows that she didnt care that she was going to get caught and maybe this is what she wanted, where I am people do stupid things that they know they will be caught for just so that they can get out. Thye are tired of doing this job, or they do not want to get deployed so they do something stupid to get out of it.

From what I read in the article, she was in her uniform in some of the pictures. I am sure that is what they are against.

It is conduct that isn't giving a good light to the military. I think its a bit harsh, but she should have known not to do it. Things like this have happened before, they sign an agreement that they will conduct themselves in a certain way, as a sargeant, she should have known better.

My husband was talking about this. I personally don't think she should be kicked out for doing that. If it was something she wanted to do in her free time then so be it. If she signed something saying she wouldn't do anything like that then yes she should get in trouble but I don't think they should kick her out of the air force.

Heck no, what she does on her spare time is her own business. I fail to see how it has anything to do with the military career. If you having your picture taken can lower your value to the military somethings gone very very wrong with the way they do things.

well, according to my husband's view on this situation he says yes she should be discharged because people in the military, officers especially, are supposed to be the most disciplined people in our country and if they are not, which he thinks posing for playboy shows lack of, then who is? I on the other hand am undecided, I feel yes because alot of our kids look up to people in the military and I certainly would not want my daughter to want to pose for playboy, yet on the other hand I believe that military personell should be able to have a seperate life outside their duties.

Your use of quotes in "free" time is quite accurate. Military service is not a job that you go to 9 till 5, come home and leave behind. It is a life, and everything you do is a part of that life. My husband can't make a public political statement. How much worse it is to publically display your body? I'm sorry about her career, but if she had half a brain she would have thought this through first, and waited until she was out.

Well it is a strict rule in the Forces that says they are not to do jobs on the Side without informing them and also showing Weapons and things like that is a security breach we might not think so but someone who is well clued up can study things and bang they know what weapons are being used they know what Unit she is with and all that so really she has to take the Punishment for what she did

Hmm...I understand the military wants to uphold an image. But having been in some barracks as a visitor when my husband was at school and had to live on base--I can't imagine what she did is any worse then what some of those men/women run around wearing or saying in their free time. I wonder if the pictures would have been looked at differently had she not used her career as the main focus--well besides being naked..lol. If she would just gotten pics taken would that have been different? Should she be kicked out? I'm not sure. If they make it fit in with their guidelines then yeah she will be. But I think they need to take a good look at her service record first and determine if she can be lost as a service member. I would think a warning of some type should be given first.

When she signed up she new the rules and what to abide by. When you sign up for a service it is to follow there rules. To sit there and put her dog tags out there and who she is was wrong. It's like any other job you are to respect it and do it the best you can. What she did was a lack of respect. We are allowed to make choices as long as we know there are consequences to our actions and are willing to pay the price of them.

I saw this woman interviewed on tv. There is no doubt in my mind she had already written off her military career before posing in Playboy. She absolutely knew what she was doing and what the consequences would be. No, she did not say that, I just could tell. In my opinion, she trashed her military career which was not going anywhere on the chance that the Playboy gig would lead to something better after she got kicked out of the military. She is counting on the publicity to help find that something better. Now, as to her getting kicked out because of the Playboy gig, know this,"The USAF does not get rid of salvagable competent NCO's only for appearing in Playboy one time." Most likely this NCO was already on the outs with her career or she never would have done it. Good NCO's do not commit conduct unbecoming a noncommisioned officer or bring discredit to the service.

I think perhaps she shouldn't have been photographed with her 'dog tags' on and posing with the weapons, but perhaps she was just proud. I don't think it's really fair that she should get kicked out - perhaps a warning would be more sufficent

I think that she should be kicked out. Airmen are supposed to conduct themselves better than that for one, even during their free time. And another thing, she posed in her uniform, which IS against standards. You aren't supposed to wear the uniform casually. I've heard of people getting in trouble just for wearing their uniform while in a mall or somewhere. Maybe its not an Air Force wide thing, (though most likely it is) but I know that around the base that I live on you really do get in trouble for wearing your uniform basically anywhere besides base unless for a good reason (i.e. stopping for gas on your way home is acceptable, going into ten stores in the mall is not). If you aren't allowed to shop in the mall in your uniform, why in the world would it be okay to pose for a magazine in it without permission? Especially that kind of magazine!

I don't have a problem with it however what she signed going into the military is an agreement that she is to conduct herself in the way they see correct on and off duty. Once you are a part of the military you belong to them pretty much. I myself am an Airman's wife. I think that the real issue is most likely the fact that she was possing for the pictrues with her dog tags and military things and showing the fact she was military. The military does not agree with this sort of behavior and the photos could be seen as being negatively viewed on the values a military member is suppose to up hold. she should have asked whether this was something that would affect her career even before doing it. If you are a service person you have to watch what you are doing at all times because they are always watching you.

This is not the first case where someone has been fired from a job for doing something in her offtime that-while legal-did not meet up to the pseudo-standards her employ set after the fact. Remember the police officer who also was fired for appearing in PlayBoy a few years ago?She took it to court but I believe it was not much longer after thast she was up on charges unrelated to her case. I do not know the contract she signed with the Air Force had anything in it about working part-time or allowing photos of any weapons which may be classified or just not let out to the public. She made a decision based on her values and beliefs.I hope IF she is fired,that she take the case to courts as employers-whether it be McDonalds or the government(both run by clowns)should not be able to run all aspects of a persons life(unless the contract they signed has that in it).

Nope she was still employeed by the government sooooo she was wrong in doing so. She should have asked. The weapons she posed with were they military issue? Doesn't matter if her husband was okay with it. She posed in her uniform the one that was issued to her. Sorry call me prude or whatever. But apparently she didn't think it all the way through or she would have let someone in command know what was going on. Free time or not she is an employee of the government

i agree with military.com line..

Hi, there should no sentiments. Some body of her stature must show discipline bcos she is public officer wth code of conduct. If she has broken the rule, let her be punished

I think that unless the papers that she signed when she signed up specifically said she couldnt do something like this then it should be allowed. If she wasent on duty at the time and wanted to do this it really shouldnt matter. If she can make some money on the side then thats great. No I personally dont think she should be kicked out of the military! If she isnt able to serve in the military anymore then I hope she can make a good living with playboy!