Mylotees with 9 or 10 STAR Ratings, writing one line responses?!
By megs85
@megs85 (3142)
Australia
February 10, 2007 9:41pm CST
How do they maintain a 9 or 10 star rating when the majority of their post consist of 1 or 2 Line responses, that do relate to the discussion (most of the time) but don't contribute anything to it?
Have you come across this before?
Do you rate or report them, or do you think 1-2 Lines is acceptable, even though the Mylot guidelines specify we need to contribute/add something to a discussion when we respond, which in my opinion, cant be done in a single, short sentence, unless the discussion they are responding to is a breach of the Mylot guidelines, for example; Do you like cheese, Do you have a drivers licence etc...
So whats your opinion?
Is this an example of how the star rating system is merely a popularity contest rather than a true indication of ones posting ability and content. This is why I think this system, which is too easily abused as I keep saying- by irate or vengeful members, or members who simply cannot bear a contrasting view point, should be abolished...
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58 responses
@victorwzj (539)
•
11 Feb 07
Well, I am a mylot member with 10 star. To be honest I never post one line responses and if you check my best respond my respond were very long*. When the time I reach 100 post my star were 8 and it took me 2 weeks to reach 10 star. I am understand what you saying and I do see some of the people that have 10 star or 9 star post one line responses and they get away with it. But in reality they do not getting away with it, their earning will be compromise and if they keep this up their rating will be drop . Whenever I saw one liner response I will give them negative rating and of cause positive for good post and respond. As you say popularity does affect the rating but it does hurt in the long run . You don't need to worry about it , just remember that you need to post quality respond and your earning and rating will be increasing before you know it.
@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
I dont really care what my rating is, that isnt the issue here, as outlined in the original post. I am talking about people who have had a 9 or 10 sta rating since the whole system was introduced a few weeks ago, and somehow manage to maintain despite poor quality and content.
@mystery777 (403)
• United States
11 Feb 07
Totally agree with you victorwzj....
I recently lost some earnings due to nothing but one liner responses apparently. Wasn't a habbit of me though, but happens sometimes.
I think the stars' ratings determine how *active* a member is, regardless of his/her posts' lengths. Investigating more to see if the number of referrals someone has affects this.
Mystery777
@victorwzj (539)
•
11 Feb 07
The reason why they manage to maintain their rating is because they were popular in mylot and they have allot of friends. Allot of his or her friend rate their discussion and this is how they manage to maintain the rating. Don' worry about it , it doesn't help them to earn more . just a reputation .
@inkedmama1111 (824)
• United States
11 Feb 07
I don't really care if someone decides they want to give a one or two line response, it doesn't really effect me personally. Although many of those responses might bring down the quality of discussions here at MyLot, sometimes a one or two line response is all that is needed.
Would you rather see them respond with a paragraph of absolute nonsense if they truly have nothing else to say? I sure wouldn't!
@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
I just think if you dont have anything substantial to say then dont bother responding at tall. As you said it brings down the overall quality of Mylot.
I do agree that sometimes a sentence or two is called for, but in my opinion and experience if that is all that is neccessary to respond to a discussion, than the discussion probably shouldnt be there in the first place- as I mentioned in the original post.
I just saw a 10 star member respond with something along the line of "well good luck with that, sounds like a good idea, im sure it will go well..." when a member had asked for constructive feedback about something they were planning on doing. They were looking for advice, tips and shared experiences, not a one lien wish of luck. Just my opinion, though, everyone is entitled to their own.
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@sum_19 (56)
• India
11 Feb 07
Well i agree that sometimes one or two lines response is needed..but in some discussions it's really not needed. Why do these people do so. I don't understand why..??? I think that mylot is a place where we can discuss on certain important topics. We can discuss about the current affairs. Their effects, advantages and disadvantages to us. Discuss on certain general problems related to our everyday life.
I am new here in mylot. I don't know many things. But i can understand the need of discussing on these important topics.
I joined mylot to improve my knowledge. I have to attend some group discussions in my college. For that i need to know what other people think on these topics. It is only here where we can exchange each other's ideas and views.
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@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
It should be an ewxchange of ideas, opinions and views, however there are a few contributing factors that negate this discussion process in my opinion.
1. People will write anything for a cent or two, even meangingless one line responses that contribute nothing to a discussion.
2. The star rating policy, has caused a number of people to refrain from offering an honest opinion for fear of retribution by irate, vengeful members, or those with conflicting opinions that abuse the system.
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@ssh123 (31073)
• India
11 Feb 07
I was having STar 9 and yesterday it came down to 8. So do not worry, mylot will not spare anyone. In due course those who climb, comedown, if they do not make proper efforts to maintain that level. With your discussion, you reminded me of this and now I should reclimb.
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@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
I dont see Mylot taking action against 68,000 odd members immediately, it isnt humanly possible, which is why i thinkt hey introduced teh star rating system. However, in my opinion it isnt an efficient method of establishing and monitoring ones posting quality and content.
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@mvsrao (4365)
• India
11 Feb 07
I had come across a group of members who
were misusing the rating system . They
rate +s to their group members posts , and
give -s to other hard workers here .
I have reported this to Mylot , unfortunately
I didnt get a response . I can still see
some members misusing the rating system
as my star rating has been dropped by 8
( 98 to 90 now ) ...
@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
I constantly see members misusing the system. Thats why I think Mylot needs to scrap it. i understand how hard it must be for them to monitor 68,000 members but if they cant even respond to reporting anymore, like the hundreds i have sent that havent been addressed, and cant keep up, perhaps they need to limit the amount of members here...
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@xiohexia7 (40)
• United States
12 Feb 07
i agree that mylot should pay better attention to there users. But none the less it wont happen. The more myLot grows the more difficult it will be for the admins to keep it a nice place. And if you consider that they wont stop the growing of mylot because this is the whole quest of mylot, this problem will most likely only escalate.
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
12 Feb 07
I have noticed this too. Its pretty sad that by playing games and using friends to give positive ratings, people can beat the system and get higher ratings and thus higher pay. Its also sad that people can abuse the ratings by giving people that might talk about more controversial and in depth subjects negative ratings. Overall, I think we get the impression that Mylots rating system is "sad".
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
12 Feb 07
You are so right. There is so much secrecy to why they rate anything there is always talk about the alogorithm that rates everything..
@fieryeyedwriter (614)
• United States
12 Feb 07
I honestly believe that some of the most powerful answers to some questions can be said in no more than one or two lines. These are answers that are blunt and to the point, that say it all very briefly. Sometimes it is these answers that make the most sense. I agree that some people seem to leave short responses in order to make their rating go up and nothing more. It is these people who are doing wrong. I do not feel that the people who are answering honestly should be punished for the rest of them. I disagree that someone can not write one to two lines and substantially contribute. If you don't want one to two line responses, that is your own personal choice and preference, but not everyone feels that way.
@KHyuga (1694)
• Singapore
11 Feb 07
I would be one of those who usually posts short responses. My philosophy is - if you can express something using lesser words, why not? After all, short and concise posts are easier on the eye as well. I myself don't like to see posts that consist of long paragraphs.
@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
As I have said in previous comments, if you can express everything you want and need to say, making sense, staying related to the topic and contributing something to the discussion, then you are more adept at the english language then I am, and I have no problem with it.
@mohsin3161 (654)
• Pakistan
11 Feb 07
I really think its useless unless those sort of ratings donot add to your power of scoring quickly its simply wastage of effort as the person with 1 star rating will be graded similarly as that of 10 rating.
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@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
11 Feb 07
I had not noticed that in particular, but with this many members, we could easily be reading different discussions all of the time. I have not been real happy with the star rating, and I am not sure that it is just popularity, it just seems to have generated a negative atmosphere. It also seems like now we spend so much time discussing the stars, and ratings, and why we lose, that we do not have real discussions anymore. Losing points seems to make people dispirited.
@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
I agree with you, that some people tend to be disheartened by their star rating. Personally I just want to prove my point that the little star next to your name isnt always an accurate indication of your ability, or history here at mylot. For soem people, its right, for others its so far off it isnt funny. Im glad you too have noticed what Im talking about cause noone else seems to have seen the exact smae thing thus far and I thought I was going nuts and imagining things lol. There are too many discussions about stars and ratings, this one included. In my opinion, mylot should screen who they let into this community more carefully, and respond to ALL reports. The whole rating thing should be scrapped, leaving only the report button, imo. I also think that a rough guideline as to how much we earn would stop a lot of repetitious and pointless discussions. Clarify it once and for all. It doesnt mean that genuine members will abuse the system...
@mom2chriskel (1060)
• United States
12 Feb 07
I don't think it is a popularity contest. I don't feel popular and I have a 10 rating--I think it is still a 10--it jumps from 9 to 10. I've never gotten messages from anyone and I don't have a whole slew of friends. So I think I'm proof that you can be a 10 and not in the "in crowd"
As for one or two liner responses...I will rate a positive as long as it is on topic. If it is off topic and total gibberish..it gets a big negative. If I don't feel strongly about it one way or the other then it gets nothing(is that wrong? )
There are definitely some who use the system to hurt other members. It happens a lot. Plus some give negatives because they don't like their opinion which is a no no in the guidelines.
@ashumit02 (818)
• United States
11 Feb 07
They maintain there rankings by the quality of matters they post .Some time they post longer posts than that .The rankings is updated due to the quality of there posts and the accuracy they maintain to do this .
@onabreak2 (1161)
• United States
12 Feb 07
I have noticed it too and I think you are right about the vengfulness of some of the others on here.
I think that mylots is waking up to it too. I notice that by rating my discussions I get more then if I write discussions. These are the same people who are complaining of their earnings being taken away.
Whenever someone complains I go and look at what they have been writing and in most cases the writer should have to be paying people to read the crap.
Stupid questions. Do you like this questions with no more then that for the question. It really drives me nuts.
Like one of the writers here said in one of his posts. No scout that is looking for writers is going to take this site seriously. There is just too many bad posts.
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@flagbabygirl (891)
• United States
11 Feb 07
Because these people never actually say what is on there mind. I don't think if they spoke their mind like I do they would have that rating they play it safe and say almost nothing! I get rated bad or minus because people do not agree with what I say alot I am cotreversial! Oh Well I think I should get a bonus!
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@nilzerous1 (2434)
• India
11 Feb 07
Don't be so hursh on your judgement please. Replies depend on the topic. Some topic requires broad illustration while some others require just a mention of your choice. Naturally, the post lenght varies a lot from 1-2 lines and then long 800 words posts as well. It is important to note whether it is relevant or not. If it is relevant, then everything is ok, and if it is not, you can obviously report against it. I think it is more judicious.
@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
As outlined in the original post, had you read it, it is my opinion that those discussions you refer to that require only a choice, are a BREACH of the mylot guidelines and shouldnt be responded to in any form.
I am not being HARSH in my judgement, nor offensive, nor flaming any member. I am stating my observations, and my feelings, and enquiring after others opinions, such as which you have responded with.
@ondo1015 (1884)
• Philippines
12 Feb 07
I am an 8 star but it doesn't make any difference as long as all of us here are enjoying the posting. I like to say that even I am ntot yet paid, I am still posting and doesn't lose hope.
@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
11 Feb 07
I haven't noticed myLotters with a high star rating giving short RESPONSES but they do give short COMMENTS.
Many myLotters with high ratings do enter threads and threads quite often contain only short replies: sometimes only one word. These threads are "chats" resulting from a response and there is no pay or points involved.
The rating is only calculated on discussions and responses. The threads are not only allowed, but encouraged by myLot and give added enjoyment and interest to the more serious ones who enjoy on-going interaction with their friends.
@im_theboss (384)
• India
12 Feb 07
i really dont know on what basis rating is done. and im also confused, whether rating affects our earnings or not. so, i just write as much i wish n care the least about other things.
@volcom (161)
• United States
11 Feb 07
I don't care if a person gives a 1- or 2 line response as long as it contributes in a good way to the subject the person is talking about. If they are way off topic then i may report or ill rate them but if it is a nice contributing one i'll probably not report or rate this is just my opinion though.
