Bank of America wants to do what?!?!
By soccermom
@soccermom (3198)
United States
February 14, 2007 2:41pm CST
I've been dying to get off work today and talk about this. I was listening to the radio this morning and heard on the news report that Bank of America wants to start giving credit cards to illegal immigrants that have no social security number. Since they daon't have a soc. sec. #, the bank is stipulating that the illegal must have had a bank account open with them for a minimum of 3 months. Can someone please tell me what the point of this is? Besides driving all that business to their bank? It sounds like a bad idea to me. Obviously with no social security # you can't report to or be traced by the credit reporting bureaus, therefore you can't really build credit. Can you? Why not just give away free money? This bothers me! After my first divorce I had credit issues (as do most divorcees), but I still paid my taxes, paid my bills on time and was responsible with my money and I wasn't able to get a credit card for about 3 years after my divorce was final. Can anyone enlighten me on this?
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@SageMother (2277)
• United States
14 Feb 07
I heard about this on the news. I get the distinct impression that these banks don't givea reat's about how they effect the country as a whole, and Ijust bert the Bush administration is actually encouraging this seeing as the republicans tend to be so pro business that they would construct laws to make the rest of us basic slaves to the corporations.
I hoep that people will writ their congressional representatnives and let them know that this is not something that will keep them in office. They need to nip this in the bud right now!
ON the other hand, I might just apply for a tax id number and stop giving out my social security number for any transactions that are based on credit!
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
14 Feb 07
I hadn't even thought about the governments part in this. Thanks for bringing it to light. And you are probably right about the Bush administration and Republicans, this is just another thing to think about election time.
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
15 Feb 07
Thank you for your comment. I agree with some of what you are saying, but not all of it. Government is involved. The current administation is offering incentives for banks to extend credit to illegal immigrants in the hopes that it will create some sort of indirect amnesty and ingrain them into our system. And I'm not trying to pick on hispanics, but it is incredibly frustrating when the insurance agency I work for tells me that I have to learn Spanish if I plan on getting a raise this year because nobody in the office speaks it and we are turning away alot of Hispanic business. This is not the companies policy, but the individual agent I work for. Which on one hand great, I write all these Spanish speaking policies, I get the commission, etc..but who services these clients when I'm not in the office? I'm sorry for getting off subject, I'm just tired of seeing the problems of American citizens getting taken care while it appears the powers that be are bending over to help illegals.
@coslenchip (101)
• United States
15 Feb 07
WHAT!?! The government is not involved in this at all, and rightfully so.
First off, I understand your concern and disgust. You feel that as a citizen of the US you should not be penalized. You feel that not using a person's credit score is unethical.
Unfortunately for you, but fortunately to everyone else in the world, businesses and individuals both are protected by the US government in that they are allowed to do whatever they want as long as it is within the law.
As such, it is a business's responsibility, large or small, to make decisions that it feels will best cause the business to be profitable, preferably, while still being ethical.
In this particular situation, the bank must choose for each potential customer (1) if they will extend the customer credit, (2) how much credit they will extend, and (3) what interest rate and other fees will be charged. When you go into the bank, the bank runs a credit check. Why? It is the easiest/cheapest way for the bank to assess risk. A credit score has been shown by all three bureaus to accurately account for an increase in risk. The bank wants to know the likelihood of getting its money back. I apologize if you disagree with how the bureaus calculate their scores. I know I do. I have had a lower score lately even though I have paid all of my debts, on time, for years. Why? Because I requested credit from multiple institutions in the last year. That's it. It dropped my score by ~50 points. Then, because I used the credit supplied me, my score dropped another 75 points. So, I learned a little more about how the credit scores were calculated.
Anyway, why does a bank want to know a person's risk? Duh, so they can answer the three questions above. Well, let's pretend for a moment that there is not credit score for anyone. Does that mean that banks cannot make money off of loaning out money? NO! What it means is that they have to make assumptions of what that score might be. In other words, they consider everyone to have a score of, let's say 600. So, the bank's answers to the three questions above are (a) yes they can get a line of credit, (b) the line needs to be relatively small, and (c) the interest rate needs to be relatively high. I am 100% positive that this is what Bank of America has in mind. They will likely give the illegal immigrants in question a line of credit in the $500 range with an interest rate of ~24%.
So, the only question is whether their actions are either illegal or unethical. Obviously, you feel that they are. I am pretty sure that they are not illegal. But, are they unethical. The answer could be yes. If you are suggesting that businesses should not do business with illegals because they are illegally here; they should instead call the police, that is understandable, at least at first glance. Initially, I agreed with you. But, if a bank does this, how many illegal aliens does it send back? The answer is 0, at least on a regular basis. But, if instead it follows what BofA is suggesting, that bank can help those people whom it is giving a card, yes. Also, it helps its stock holders, who are likely citizens, by the way. Also, it can help local businesses. It has been shown that consumers buy more with a card than with cash. So, the only benefit it is giving the illegal alien is actually one of convenience. But, the real economic benefit goes to the others involved, most, if not all, of which are US citizens.
I understand your disgust. But, good business is good business is better for America.
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@creativedreamweaver (7297)
• United States
14 Feb 07
I know exactly what you mean soccermom. I think it is insane for BofA to even consider such an obvious financial risk. What else are we going to allow illegal aliens to get away with that we don't let citizens do? I have had credit issues since my divorce to, and they will allow an illegal to have a credit card and not me? After hearing this I will never ever give any of my business to Bank of America or any of their affiliates. It really makes me angry. In fact the more I think about it, the angrier I get. I work hard to keep my credit in good standing and to pay my taxes...for what? So they can give all the benefits I should reap to someone that comes across the boarder to take advantage of our system. I don't think so. Thanks for letting me vent on the subject.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
14 Feb 07
I am so glad I am not the only one getting upset about this. I literally become at a loss for words when I think about this. I am assuming credit cards are a worldwide thing. Isn't Visa's slogan "It's everywhere you want to be?" Let them apply for credit in their own country, that way when the bill isn't paid my interest rate isn't getting driven up to compensate. I realize that there are irresponsible American citizens too, but at least they are citizens. When is the US and the businesses in it going to start worrying about what goes on inside our own borders?
@michelledarcy (5220)
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15 Feb 07
The banks are a business that want to make money. By issueing more credit cards they will make more money from the interest that the people will pay on them.
They aren't interested in how the people can pay or their credit rating, they just want the money.
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@twinsmama (40)
• United States
15 Feb 07
I really hate this plan. Besides the fact that it rewards illegal behavior, we're going to end up paying the price when some of these people default on their bills. There will be no credit report for them to worry about, so why would they care if they pay BofA back? Then will the bank eat the loss? Hardly. It will be passed down to the rest of us.
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