To all of my MyLot Friends

@lauriefnp (5109)
United States
February 15, 2007 11:52am CST
I am wondering how long you think it should take for the star ratings to go up once they have been hacked down by people abusing the ratings? If a rating dropped by 3 points overnight and hasn't budged for over a week, does that mean that the rating truly reflects the quality of the user's posts and discussions?
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@shywolf (4514)
• United States
15 Feb 07
Yep, it takes a long long time for the star ratings to go back up - far longer than it takes for them to fall. I definitely feel that it's more than a bit unfair, as I'm still trying to get back to even a nine, when I had been a ten for a long time at the start. I don't know how I could drop to seven overnight (as cremechese was saying) but it took me about two weeks to get back up to an eight, and I think that I didn't even start to climb back up again at all for the first few days, until I posted about it and so many great people said they would support me and help me out as much as they could. I don't understand why it's so much harder to climb than fall.. it should be equally hard to do either, in a fair system, although it's really the only major complaint I have with Mylot.. I really do love it here, and I'm not just saying that! ^_^
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
15 Feb 07
I didn't realize that you had also dropped to 7 overnight. This is obviously not right, because both of us post decent discussions and responses. It's disheartening to see that you've worked so hard and are only back to an 8. What stinks is that someone could come along and do the same thing all over again. It's definitely not a good system. Like you, I enjoy MyLot. I just feel that they need to rectify this situation if they want people to stick around here. I always give you a plus, by the way!
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@weemam (13372)
15 Feb 07
I wouldn't think so laurie , you are maintaining the same amount of posts and the same quality they can only be going down because My Lot are weeding out the rubbish discussions , mine went down too but is back up , but to tell the truth I still haven't gotten used to all the ways of doing on the site yet , I thought I had done really well yesterday and made far longer replies to discussions and I earned half my usual lol xx
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
15 Feb 07
My credits are staying the same, and I have been really careful not to answer discussions that I think will get deleted. The problem is the star rating isn't going up again.
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@weemam (13372)
15 Feb 07
so sorry then laurie I don't have the answer , If somebody doesn't answer you here could you not ask admin xx
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
17 Feb 07
I expect that this discussion will get deleted also. It's a shame that there are ignorant people here. This discussion is proof that we are all feeling the effects of this victimization, and we are trying to come up with ways to resolve it and make this place better.
@volschenkh (1043)
• South Africa
15 Feb 07
I think one gets to know your friends here on MyLot, and you know what quality of posts they produce. So when their rating drops significantly, you can certainly contribute it to other ignorant users, who have rated the person negatively. From a low of 3 points, it might take some time to increase your score back to a full 10. I certainly don't jusdge my regular friends on MyLot by the fluctuations in their rating, but by the quality of their topics and posts!
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
15 Feb 07
Thank you for the support! I know that this was a result of "victimization" by one or more ignorant users, and it should be a sign to the administration at MyLot that there is a problem. If they had any type of Quality Assurance program in place, they would see that there is a big difference between my posts and most others who have a 7 rating. Not that I'm perfect, but come on!!
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@sunnypub (2128)
• United States
15 Feb 07
This is one of the biggest problems with the internet, pettiness. It really does drive me nuts. I like the idea of doing away with the negative rating. I mean when I rate someone a negative it is because their response was off subject, a one liner, irrelevant, or breaks the rules in one form or another. I never give someone a negative rating just because I don't agree with what they said. As long as they have a well thought out, intelligent, relevant response they won't get negative from me. So with all of that in mind, I think removing the negative rating and just leaving postive and report is a good idea. If you feel someone deserves a negative rating, then you use the report button. As long as mylot actually checks the response being reported and decides themselves if it deserves to be removed, everything should be okay. Then mylot can only lower the rating star based on how many responses were removed due to a report. This puts all mylotter in the position to do thier part to keep mylot a quality site, but leaves the actuall reprecussions up to mylot. they can also keep track of who is doing the reporting and they will be able to see if someone is misusing the reporting feature, and then hand out reprecussions to that person based on thier abuse of the system. I am not sure how they could set things up to work like this, but I think it would be a better solution than what they have right now. And if you noticed your rating going down, then you know it would be based on mylot's observations and you could try to improve. I am sorry you have had to go through this abuse but in the end I am sure your rating will go back up. Right now, just know that you are better than your rating shows, and you are more mature than the idiots who are being so petty and rating you down.
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
16 Feb 07
Thanks for the great response and the encouragement! You're right- I AM better than these petty, ignorant pea-brains, and I won't let them ruin this site for me or for anybody else! I agree with you that MyLot should be ultimately responsible for determining the quality of our work here. They are, afterall, the ones who are paying us. It makes no sense for them to allow anyone in the population of over 70,000 users to rate people; how in the world could they consider that to be an objective and fair system? I only hope that they will modify the system. Maybe they are working on it as we type!
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• United States
15 Feb 07
It only takes one person with a grudge against you to make sure your rating never goes up. If they have a large circle of friends and they all have a strong negative opinion about something you said, they can get together and neg all your discussions, and even your comments, wherever they find them. I don't know if it happens very often, but I've been on sites where people boasted about bombing someone with negatives.
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I shouldn't be surprised that you've seen this before. I guess that I have too much faith in human beings. I'm sure that you're right about this. A few people who disagree with someone on just one issue could make things miserable for them. And you've seen people bragging about it? These ignorant people should find something else to do with their time. Well, even if I go down to a "1" I'll still give my honest opinion, and I hope that my Friends here will understand what is going on.
15 Feb 07
When my rating was going up it used to creep up a few a day until I hit 10. Now I put up a couple of posts that got people really annoyed. My points dropped to 82/100 over the weekend and have now stayed there. I have been giving lots of nice answers all week. Not winding people up and a lot of words, but it has stayed the same. I wish I knew why.
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
15 Feb 07
Michelle, This is exactly what happened to me. I know the particular discussion that most likely pis*#d people off, but I also know that my Friends who answered it presented well thought out and intelligent answers and debates. The only "flaming" was from a few ignorant people. I never said anything nasty or rude, I just moderated the discussion. It's a shame that we have to walk on eggshells and "answer nice" to avoid ruffling anyone's feathers. It's more of a discussion if we can be ourselves and express our opinions openly without being punished. Hopefully we'll both start the climb upwards again soon.
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I agree, cremecheese, the star ratings should be eliminated. I wonder what MyLot has in store? As for your rating, smartpk, You just started getting a star rating with 100 credits, so maybe it takes a while for it to go up. Just keep doing what you're doing. Answer with good quality posts, and your rating should come up.
@smartpk (193)
• Pakistan
16 Feb 07
infact, same case with me that many people say that i am doing very reasonable and meaningful discussions and started some good topics where everyone can post comments or reply very easily, even i foung many replied but my number of posts are not as much increasing as im posting and getting replies.also my star rating is still very low.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
16 Feb 07
When mine went down one point I tried to answer as many posts as I could and then detailed my answers a bit, I don't know how its calculated but then mine increased again to nine and better instead of 85 it became 86. So may be try giving more elaboreate answers and posty in as many discussions as you can.
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Both of you are right. I have always answered with well thought out and detailed responses (many times I think that I give too much detail and the responses are too lengthy). I have been careful to post mainly to my friends discussions lately, and hopefully that will make a difference.
@saintz87 (439)
• Singapore
16 Feb 07
I think most importantly is that we give detailed views, opinions, advise, or even comments. With reasoning comes with valid, and justified back ups. With that, people are able to analyze, and make comparisons of whether the comments made are of good quality, with justification, or a simple, nonsensical response. At least our friends are able to justify our personality from there on as well. We are serious people. Yeps
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@GardenGerty (160879)
• United States
18 Feb 07
I do not know how to help improve ratings for my friends other than to rate them + like crazy. And there are a lot of people on here that I consider as friends, even if not on my friends list. That being said, you know I am behind you.
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
24 Feb 07
Thanks, I appreciate the support here. There are a lot of nice, fair people here on myLot, such as yourself. I need to concentrate on my friends instead of the ignorant people who go around trying to ruin things for the rest of us.
@oldboy46 (2129)
• Australia
17 Feb 07
In many forums like this you will always find some petty minded members .... they irritate the hell out of me ... there is nothing that can be done by members individually to stop these people. But the administration can do something .... if for example you get 20 negative ratings from the same person .... that should show up and they should be able to check it out .... if it is warranted then you get a drop .... but if not warranged then the ones which are unfair should be ignored. If people did not have a way to mark something negative there would be a lot of reports .... that would mean employing more staff .... which would mean less money for the members .... so it seems take the good with the bad unless someone can come up with a fairer method. Nobody will want to lose money if more people were employed ... this means that we do have to live with it, Give it time and your star will shine again laurie .... at least I am hoping that mine will rise .... so if mine does then yours will too.
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
24 Feb 07
Thanks for the encouragement. Your post deserves at least a 9 or 10 rating also! You're so right. We need to just go with the flow, stop worrying about this small stuff, and have fun while earning some money. Who really cares about these ratings? People care less and less as we know that they mean nothing. Have a Great Weekend!
@cuddleme01 (2725)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
no our star ratings dont reflect the quality of our post. anyone can give us a negative rating simply because we dont agree with their opinions or worst just because they feel like giving us the negative mark. the mylot star rating is just too unrealiable. as for how long it takes for the star rating to go up well i am not sure. but i think you need to get 10 positive marks before you can improve the star rating by 1 point higher. dont worry about your star rating lauriefnp. i believe you deserve a higher star rating than what you have now.
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
17 Feb 07
Thank you! You're right, the ratings are too subjective and unreliable. I shouldn't even worry about it, I guess. I certainly don't want to get too petty and end up hating it here. I'll just stick with my "friends" and try to stay out of trouble!
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
15 Feb 07
I think a lot of folks are all too willing to push that negative button just because they don't agree with another member or worse because of out and out jealousy. I also think that certain members are being targetted and negged again and again by the same person. I think it should be possible to give a negative only once in the same thread to the same person and I also think that the person giving the negative should have to tell Mylot why they are giving the negative. ( "I don't agree with this uppity person" is not an acceptable reason.) I also think the person who is given the negative should be notified and told why they are getting a negative and have an opportunity to have it reviewed by mylot....Or mylot could just make it easier and do away with the rating system altogether. It's being abused and it's not fair.
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
16 Feb 07
Very well stated, Irisheyes! I agree that if MyLot does not eliminate the negative ratings, they should at least put some limits on it. Your ideas are great. There should be no way that a single user can rate every single comment that someone makes in a discussion. Think about it- if I comment on every response received in a controversial discussion (like one of the ones I had recently), someone could give me 50 negatives in one shot! That is certainly not a fair and balanced way of doing things. Maybe I should call Bill O'Reilly at FOX News! LOL
• Grand Junction, Colorado
15 Feb 07
I agree 100% that when you give a negative you have to give a reason, just like when you report abuse. Very well said!
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@KrisNY (7590)
• United States
15 Feb 07
No Laurie.. I think your discussions and posts are great- I'm not sure what is going on. I'm rating you each time I read your discussions... I feel for you-- I was a 10 then a 9 then a 10 and now a 9... It's odd... I still haven't figured out how to see my rating.. (besides my star). People talk about %... I have no idea.. Keep on chugging along and hopefully it will soon raise!
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
17 Feb 07
Thanks, Kris- I appreciate the encouragement. I am going to just keep doing what I've been doing, and I'll see what happens. I know that I can't do much more. I haven't figured out the percent thing, either. I'm hoping that MyLot revises this rating system, actually.
• United States
16 Feb 07
I think the star rating must work along the same system as the pay ratio there really isn't a reason to it, it just is what it is. I have done absolutly nothing different (other than one really bad post I got sucked into and responded based on emotion instead of logic three days ago) my star went from a 10 to 6 overnight and hasn't moved since. I believe that I am an honest and forward person I haven't hurt anyone or made nasty comments to anyone so why my rating would drop so far so fast and then not go back up is a loss to me. So I just keep posting and enjoying MyLot and I try to not think about my star rating, but let's be honest in the back of our minds we all really do. I hope your star goes back up!
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
21 Feb 07
It sounds as if the exact same thing happened to both of us. Whoever got made is making it a habit to hit the negative whenever they see us post, which is probably outweighing the positives given by our friends for our good responses. I'm doing the same as you; I'm posting in my friends discussions, having fun, getting a few laughs here and there, and if the star goes up it does, if it drops, so what? Good Luck!
• Grand Junction, Colorado
15 Feb 07
I'm sorry this has happened to you. I see your posts all over and find them to be of excellant quality. I've noticed several people here that were at a 10 fell quickly and it does seem like it is taking a long time to climb back up which to me makes no sense as the quality of your posts hasn't changed. I have to wonder if something else doesn't contribute to the star falling and then not going up as fast. Hopefully all the pluses I just gave everyone down the page will bring all back to where they belong. Until then don't fret, everytime I see your post I will give you a "+". I also noticed in the FAQ's or the guidelines or both that something was stated about a fail safe so that a particular person or group couldn't make the star fall. So I wonder what that is about, as I've heard a number of people say that they posted in a discussion that got ugly and the next day their ratings went down. I love mylot also, I just wish that a few things here were a bit more clear. Just my 2 cents worth. Your star makes no difference to me your still a 10 with your postings! :)
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
16 Feb 07
beaniefanatic, thank you so much for this response. It makes me feel good to hear from kind and sensible people. Your words of encouragement are very much apprciated. My problem is that I do like some of the more controversial topics, and although I am careful not to attack or offend people, I'm sure that they rate negatively just because they disagree, which we know is misuse of the rating system. MyLot does state that they have some type of system in place to prevent this from happening, but it's not working. As you pointed out, this is happening to a lot of other people besides myself. Thanks again!
• United States
16 Feb 07
This rating is a joke, and I see no reason to have it at all. You have always responded and written excellent posts. So, you should still be a 10. Mine is down too. I don't even care anymore. Mylot was more fun months ago, before they started all these changes. Your friends know you are great, so don't worry if it is down or not. I like you very much. I'm glad you are my friend.
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Thank you, Margie! You are also a 10 in my ratings, also. I am realizing now that this is simply a popularity contest, and I don't really care as long as my friends realize the truth. The ignorant people are going to continue with their evil nonsense no matter what, and I'm not going to let them spoil it for me.
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
16 Feb 07
i know it takes a lot longer to put it back up when it has dropped even by one point but i guess only mylot admin know for sure
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@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I dont pay any attention to that anymore. Ive tried my hardest to get my star from a 9 to 10 and its just not happening. and Ive decided not to spend as much time here anymore Ive found a another great site and Ive been paid already. Hey good luck with your star.
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Thanks, and Good Luck at the other site. I like the people on myLot, and I really want to stay here. I'm concentrating more on my Friends here and less on the ratings, which we all know are inaccurate anyways.
@saintz87 (439)
• Singapore
16 Feb 07
So far, I have not experienced the dropping of my ratings. I am either stagnated, or increasing in my ratings. I am pretty cautious of the responses I give, and i make sure they are of good quality of my truthfulness, opinions, and experiences. I am just worried about he abuse of the ratings. I wonder that if my posts that is of good, quality, offended someone unintentionally, what would happen to my ratings. Besides that, if people were to abuse the rating system, I feel that we will all be in jeopardy of our earnings. So, the best way is not to offend anyone, keep up with quality responses, consistency, and constant upgrading of our advises we give. I hope that MyLot will determine a system that monitor users who give ratings, to judge, and see whether they are actually utilizing it wisely, or abusing it by dropping ratings of everyone without justifying their reasons, or what so ever in giving the negative rating.
@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Your points about determining a system to monitor who is giving negative ratings and why are very good. I think that people should be forced to justify their reasons. Simply hitting the negative button because they don't agree with you or like you is a coward's way to handle things.
@smartpk (193)
• Pakistan
15 Feb 07
any thing is possible in this technology time period but must take risk to come out and be positive and remove all the negativity from your mind about any matter, i am sure you'll be successful very soon.
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• United States
15 Feb 07
tell me what you are talking about is there something we are not doing that we should and if so what? What is a star rating and if we need to be doing something more tell us so we may do so.
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
17 Feb 07
The star ratings start when you reach 100 posts, so you will have one soon. The ratings go from 1-10 and are solely dependent on how other users rate your discussions and your responses. The negative ratings are meant only if someone answers in a rude and offensive manner, replies with 1-2 words only, or answers in a totally off-topic manner. If someone posts a good response that you don't agree with, it is still a positive- a response should never be rated negatively because someone disagrees. Some people here have been deliberately rating others negatively repeatedly in order to make their ratings go down. The best thing that we can all do is to use the ratings appropriately. For example, your response is a quality, well thought out response to the discussion; therefore I give it a positive rating. If you had said "you're being too sensitive, don't worry about it, etc..." I would still give it a positive rating, even though I may not agree with you or your opinion.