Will I ever sleep again?
By maildumpster
@maildumpster (3815)
United States
February 19, 2007 8:32am CST
My son was born in early June 2004. He was 3 months early and spent almost 2 months in the hospital after birth. Since being home he has slept through the night exactly 2 times!!
He wakes up at random intervals all night. Some nights it is every 45 minutes. Other nights it is every 3 hours. Still other nights he does a combination of the two or any variation in between.
I haev fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and a sluggish thyroid. All those things leave me so tired as it is. Add in not sleeping in over 2 years and you can imagine how exhausted I am.
We have tried letting him cry but that doesn't work. He cries till he makes himself throw up (and it doesn't happen once it will keep happening if he is not calmed). Beyond that he has a heart defect and crying for extended periods puts a strain on his heart.
Has anyone else had a similar experience? How did you handle it? Will I ever sleep again?
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@sarah6153 (57)
• United States
19 Feb 07
ummm my son is two years old and wakes up once in awhile because he dropped his binky (which he is hopelessly addicted to) but he otherwise started sleeping through the night at a year. You should really bring him to the doctor. I have fibromyalgia as well, sjogrens syndrome (similar to lupus), and arthritis. I understand how you feel. What may help you if the doctor cant is make sure you have a really comfortable mattress so when you can sleep, you do. Also, does he have a nap during the day? Try either cutting it out or sleeping when he sleeps. It def. is not normal at this age though.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
19 Feb 07
jillbeth I have even tried to have him suck his thumb. He wants nothing to do with it. I have tried to get him to take a bottle or binky but nothing.
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@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
19 Feb 07
I had problems with my only daughter - she had her days and nights mixed up and no matter what we tried she would be awake most of the night crying. I found the only thing that calmed her was the wind-up swing. I can tell you, that swing would run for 14 minutes on a wind - the second it stopped she started again. For months I slept on the sofa with the swing next to me sleeping 10 or so minutes inbetween "runs".
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Oh if only that would work. We got a battery powered swing and he hated it! Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
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@mom2chriskel (1060)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Yes you will sleep again. My first born was born at 30 weeks (10 wks early) and it took a while but he eventually did sleep through the night. It was only me because my husband was in the Navy and on deployment so I know how hard it is to get up all the time and still have to do the stuff around the house, run errands and do everything for the little guy with no one there to help.
Part of it is they get on that schedule and they do not want to change it. My son was on the every 2 hours so for 2 years I heard from him every 2 hours. At first it was because he was used to eating every 2 hours and we kept that up for 14 months or so and then we started lowering the amount he ate because we realized it wasn't really that he was hungry, he just got used to the contact. So I would just sort of rub his belly or the top of his head and he would go back to sleep.
It is common for preemies to sleep longer than "normal" babies but since your son is 2 1/2, I'd say he is getting used to it and knows when he wakes up in the middle of the night that you will come as soon as possible.
I don't necessarily recommend letting him cry it out. But if you can tell the cry is the normal come and get me cry, let it go a few minutes longer each time. Don't just leave him there to scream but let him know you won't be right there. I mean obviously if you can tell it isn't his normal cry, by all means go get him and make sure he is arlight.
Hang in there! It DOES get better. It just doesn't seem like it will happen for a long time.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
21 Feb 07
My son was a 29 wkr. It is often every 2 hours. Sometimes longer sometimes less.
He only nurses for a short while when he wakes up. I have tried patting him, rubbing him etc - doesn't work. Ok well a few times it has but most times he just gets more upset.
I have tried the crying thing. Someone else replied saying they think the crying out thing was created by someone without children. At least Dr Ferber has recanted and said that it doesn't work for all children.
@wmaharper (2316)
• United States
19 Feb 07
I will never complain about my four month old's night awakenings again! (at least I'll try not to!). I would talk to your pediatrician about it if you haven't, as there may be some underlying condtion. Also, do you find he sleeps better in other places besides his crib? maybe his mattress is uncomfortable to him, some kids are more sensitive than others. Also, maybe try propping him up with a pillow under the mattress, I know during allergy season, my little one has a hard time sleeping through the night when his nose is draining. Maybe there is something in his room that he is allergic to? I would try co-sleeping, as he is 2 and the possibility of SIDS is very low now, Yes, it's not always a great idea to start something you will later have to quit and break him from, but some sleep is better than no sleep. Once you get him sleeping through the night with you, you can ease him into sleeping through the night on his own. One more idea, take him to a chiropracter. I have a friend whose newborn cried constantly since he was born, so much so taht she really hardly ever slept.. They decided to take him to a chiropracter, and they adjusted his back, and has slept through the night with no problems since. Just a suggestion, you never know. Good luck! I hope your little one starts sleeping better so you can too.
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@wmaharper (2316)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Yes, I can understand the hubby thing.. Mine would crush our son too, if he ever sleeps with us in bed (when we're at a hotel or something) I sleep in the middle, and I don't get much sleep that way.. (:
Hope everything works out. (:
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
19 Feb 07
If I slept in the middle my son could roll right off the bed.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
19 Feb 07
I would love to cosleep but with my hubby it ain't happening. I wouldn't sleep cause I would be terrified that hubby would crush my son. Lord knows he's laid on me in his sleep!! Beyond that my hubby works 12 hour shifts and is up at 4 am. I couldn't do that to him.
As far as the chiropractor. Well we started taking him to see if it would help his walking delays. It does seem to be helping that! (his therapist is amazed how quick he is 'gettimg it' now) Thing is the chiro only adjusts his neck - will have to ask if he can adjust his back.
Thanks so much.
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@raven33 (69)
• United States
19 Feb 07
My son also was born 3 months premature. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia & chronic fatigue over 3 years ago. I just want to say I feel for you, I know it's hard I've been there.
When my son was little he would literally throw himself around in his crib and wake up screaming after hitting his head on the sides of the crib and bumper pads. He is still a very restless sleeper and all over the bed at night. As soon as he started walking I child-proofed his entire room installed a very sturdy gate on his door and moved in a full sized bed with a child safety railing installed on the sides.
My MIL screamed at me, my SIL screamed at me, my hubby at the time was irate...he was TOO little. But...for the first time since he came home from the hospital he SLEPT through the night...starting with the VERY first night. I slept on the floor in his room for awhile to make sure he wouldn't have any problems waking up in a new bed in the middle of the night..and the first night I probably didn't sleep at all...be he did. Another friend whose son was also premature ended up moving him into a larger bed sooner also because of the same problems...he was 3 1/2 and still not sleeping through the night.
I don't know if this is a problem with your son or not, and my solution is certainly not everyone's solution. At the time I was desperate for sleep and really feeling worse health-wise, and this just happened to work out good for us.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
21 Feb 07
I wish he could have his own room but we have a two bedroom and three kids - doesn't work. It's funny he has one of those flip and fold kiddie couches and he loves sleeping on that. It's even smaller than a crib.
Glad to hear from someone else who knows EXACTLY what I am going through.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
10 May 07
Thank you I have given you best reply cause I think that of everyone you probably know best what I am going thru. The parallels in our lives are wild.
@hewesy2 (28)
• United States
19 Feb 07
My daughters are three and still continue to wake up each and every night. Now it isn't crying so much, I just hear, Mommy, Daddy! So then they hop into bed with us, and that is pretty much routine. Since they were born, they have slept through the night on 3 separate occasions. Of course on those nights, we slept worse, because we thought they stopped breathing at night, so checked on them about 8 times those nights. You can never win!
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
20 Feb 07
Oh gosh; you do know what I mean!!! I did that too the two nights he has slept through - woke up a few times to make sure he was ok.
I wish it were just calm Mommy, Daddy; no, instead he wakes up crying each time. It isn't even like he wakes up and THEN cries; it is he WAKES up crying.
I am too afraid my hubby would roll on top of my son otherwise I would put him in bed with me. I have done so when hubby wastn't there. It helped only a little.
Have you talked to the pediatrician? What did they say to you?
@icequeen (2840)
• Canada
19 Feb 07
So sorry you are having those problems. My son had colic so I know what the constant crying can do to you...I would think about talking to your doctor about alternatives and medications etc. It sounds like you could use a break...is there someone who could help you like a relative...someone who may take the baby for a while so you can get some sleep...that would be what I would suggest...you need to take care of yourself...or you will not be any good to the baby...think about things that can give you some release and relaxation too..like a nice hot bath...
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
20 Feb 07
That's the thing - he cries very little. He is one of the happiest kids you will ever meet!
I wish my hubby would help more but I do understand he has to work.
@Jusred (1578)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Have you ever talked to your child's pediatrician about this? I'm sure you probably have...I'm curious as to what he/she suggests you try and do-? If you don't get resolve for this according to their suggested interventions, i would seek a 2nd, 3rd, etc opinion..This is definately not healthy for you or your child. Maybe some additional bloodwork or tests may reveal something else going on that may be contributing to his inability to sleep any longer then 3 hours. That would be my course of action if it were me~
Good Luck and hope you find a solution soon!
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Yep talked to the ped and they said let him cry it out. They weren't even phased when I said he will vomit.
Due to the fact that he is a preemie with a heart condition and Noonan's syndrome my son is checked over very carefully.
I do think it is almost all habit. Just want to figure out how to break the habit with the least amount of trauma for the whole family.
@Mamaof2 (574)
• Canada
19 Feb 07
The whole night sleeping thing can be very stressful and affect us as parents as well as people! My son is over two and doesn't sleep all that well...waking 2-4 a night on the average night. It is physically draining to say the least..so I know how you are feeling. One the rare occasion that he does sleep thro the night..I find it funny cause I am all of a sudden running thro my head what I did the night before...hoping that I may just come up with a solution. I have come up with nothing really..lol I have learned that the whole "deprive them of sleep and they will sleep better at night thing" is really just a load of crap. My son gets up at about 8am. Lays down for a nap at 12-2pm. The is in bed at 9pm for the night. If I keep to this schedual then the night wakings are less I find. I also find that if I limit the amount that he has to drink before bed he sleeps better. He is still in diapers..so it isn't the bed wetting that is an issue...I just think that the wet diaper is waking him up at night. Sounds weird, but it is proven in this house that if he doesn't have a drink before bed...he sleeps better. He actaully slept all night last night as he didn't have a drink. 9pm-7:30am this morning (very rare this happens). Anyways, hang in there..it will get better! Try and catch up on your much needed sleep if the time allows..maybe during his nap or something. You need to do this in order to stay healthy!
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
20 Feb 07
Thank you! It is nice to hear that other parents are facing the same thing I am. Makes me feel less alone. It also makes me feel better in the face of all the people who keep telling me my son isn't normal for waking.
@krislouiebaby (2346)
• Philippines
20 Feb 07
oh my god,
it is so hard to take care a baby which is premature and have heart defect.
all i can say is ,have patient on him,like you i am a mother of four months old baby, since he came , i have not had enough sleep yet,
i am a working mother so look how i am exhausted too, but i am trying to cope up.
surely things will get better for you and for me,
happy parenting to us.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
21 Feb 07
I hope your baby settles into some sleep soon. At least I don't have to work outside of the house.
Good luck to you.
@cajundharma (641)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Maybe you could ask your doctor about giving him a tiny dose of melatonin? You could give him half a milligram and work up to three if needed. Natrol brand makes a liquid form that you could mix in juice or put directly on his tongue. Does he have an developmental delays from being premature? It sounds like he lacks the ability to self-soothe, which might be a sign of some sensory integration issues.
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
20 Feb 07
I gave my daughter melatonin on our doctors suggestion when she was 2. I gave her 1mg a night , about 20 minutes before her bedtime and it worked like a charm! After about a month of her "night night" pill she was on a normal sleep schedule. I put it in a chocolate flavored calcium chew so she'd take it. it's all natural, but considering your childs health issues I'd run it by your doc first. It was a godsend, especially since at that point I was pregnant with my son. Good luck to you!
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
20 Feb 07
I am going to ask about the melatonin. It is safe as it is a copy of the hormone your body produces (like insulin, estrogen etc). He has a defect in his heart but is VERY healthy. He got a cold this past January after going over a year without getting one.
We don't know if his delays are caused by his prematurity or the Noonan's syndrome. He lacks the ability to self soothe sadly because I never let him cry. I don't want to put strain on his heart (although the cardiologist says he is allowed to do anything other children his age do) - it is just me. I am over protective of him; I am over protective anyway but I guess with him I am even more so. He is evaluated regularly by his ped, cardiologist, and physical, speech and occupational therapists.
@roelie_17 (63)
• Philippines
19 Feb 07
your problem may sounds to difficult, but that is the most common problem being a mom. But by and by you wouldn't notice that you already getting the rest you've wishing for. Just enjoy every minute you spent w/ your child. It's better that you're problem is you cant sleep rather than you can never wake-up!
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
21 Feb 07
I do cherish time with my child. I just know I could enjoy it more if I got some more sleep.
And you are right I would rather keep waking up than never wake up.
@eeseharden (603)
• United States
19 Feb 07
My first daughter, Abigail, was born February 5, 1999. She was never a sleeper. I think between the time she was born and the time she was a year old, she might have slept through the night a total of 5 times. When she was 7 months old I found out I was expecting again. Ansley was born June 7, 2000. She too enjoyed the night life, and Abigail was happy to join her in not sleeping. I was getting up at least 2 or 3 times a night. Finally about the time they were 3 and 4, they slept mostly through the night...but along came Anna Carol March 29, 2004, and ended all that. She is about to turn 3 and still very seldom sleeps an entire night. We had all of them checked out and they don't have any health problems. We also tried the "letting them cry" method, which I fully believe was invented by someone with no kids. We didn't use that method but a few times. I just couldn't take it. I'm afraid the only way I could get any sleep was either to put them in bed with us, or I would have to lie down with them until they went back to sleep. Now we are just breaking the youngest one from one sippy cup per night. She wouldn't go back to sleep unless she got one. I have anemia, low blood pressure, insomnia, and have battled with depression for over 20 years. Not getting a good night's sleep doesn't help any of that. Let me ask you this, does your husband help out with getting up some? Mine tried, but all three girls wanted me, so I have to be the one to do it. You will sleep again...and hopefully soon.
Some things to try are letting them stay up a little later at night. Making sure their tummies are full or at least satisfied when they go to bed. Using a night light so they can see if they do wake up. Using a favorite stuffed animal. I feel your frustration...
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
20 Feb 07
I am sorry you are going through this but am so happy to know that I am not the only one.
I wish that we were only getting up 2-4 times a night. I could deal with that. Most nights it is every 2 hours.
My hubby has tried and like you my son only wants me. On the weekend he gets up with him in the morning when my son is up and staying up so I can catch at least a couple of hours sleep. That's great but it isn't making up for the amount of sleep I have lost!!
Thank you for your suggestions - too bad I have already tried all of them :(
@momofmany79079 (29)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Yes, you will sleep again, it may be in about 18 years, but you will sleep again. I have six kids ranging in age from 16 to 3 year old twins. I wouldn't say they don't all sleep through the night, but there are times when I don't sleep through the night worrying about them. I also suffer from thyroid disease, although mine is now getting better due to ablation, and I know how you feel about being exhaused all the time. When they are grown, maybe we will all get some sleep, or maybe not, I can't imagine never worrying about my kids.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
20 Feb 07
I know what you mean. I don't sleep if my daughters are out.
Between the thyroid, fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue; it is a wonder I function at all.
@mani_gandan53 (27)
• India
19 Feb 07
plz dont worry ....... better u admit ur child to a hospital
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
19 Feb 07
My child is very healthy and has no need for a hospital. In future if you don't have something realistic to add please don't reply.
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@XxAngelxX (2830)
• Canada
19 Feb 07
:( How tiring for you. But at over two he definitely should be sleeping through the night. I realize how tough it can be, but I think you do need to let him cry. If he throws up, simply go in and clean it up and don't say anything to him, then put him back to bed. He is no doubt doing it because he realizes it will let him stay up a little longer, we don't realize how clever our children can really be. The biggest thing is to stick with it. You have to be consistent and it will take a while but eventually he will realize he cannot get his own way. Good luck.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
20 Feb 07
I know you and many others may think this; but my son does not use vomitting as a way to stay up. When he cries for an extended period of time (day or night regardless of reason) he vomits. It is a trait that he shares with myself and his sisters. I don't know why I am like that but if I am sobbing for a while; I often vomit, at the very least I dry heave (if I can control it).
Thank you for your thoughts.
@Ona1limb (22)
• United States
22 Feb 07
Yes you will sleep again, it may be a year or two but hang in there the reward is well worth caring for your child. An infants only way of communicating is to cry so attend to their needs it will improve there communication skills and help bolth of you in the long run.
If you have someone who is willing to help like a spouse that will greatly relive your burden. But this behavior is normal for an infant up to a year old. So please attend to your infant promptly expecialy if there are medical risks at stake. The arcaic belief that letting your child cry is ok has been proven to be wrong. Good luck, hang in there If I can do it I know you can as well.
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@mgtextek (109)
• India
19 Feb 07
i undestand your feelings,but don't lose your heart,you did not mention day timings,people used to say those who born in night,they won't sleep during night hours in early months, but your child might be 2 1/2 years and still he is giving trouble means he has some problem.better to consult a child specialist.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
20 Feb 07
Well, he was born during the day so your theory is out the window.
I believe much of the problem is habit. I just wish I could figure out a way to break the habit without trauma.
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
21 Feb 07
I suffer from some of the same things (fibro/cfs) and I am wondering if you are not feeding him enough before he goes to bed? My daugther didn't but gave her midnight bottle/snack then they were fine.
Wow....I hope you find a solution...what does the dr say?
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
21 Feb 07
If you read through you will see what the doc has said.
He has eaten an entire meal right before bed and still wakes up. It isn't hunger.
Thanks anyway.
@sandu2sandy (12)
• India
19 Feb 07
Ya i have the experince of bringing up children.
They normally start crying at nights.It may be a little irritating at first but u'll get accustomed to it with time
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Sorry this is something I will NEVER get used to. Our physiological response is to respond to crying. I can't deprogram my wiring.
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