Ash Wednesday --- would you have that cross-shaped black ash on your forehead???

Philippines
February 21, 2007 12:06pm CST
According to the Bible, Ash Wednesday marks the first day of the Lent. My boyfriend and I then heard a Mass earlier today and had the celebrating priest bless us with the cross-shaped black ash on our forehead. Our old folks since then have told us to do this as a sign of repentance before God. And the priest in his sermon made mention that we can further our repentance by doing some fasting and abstinence... Do you think it is really necessary to have that cross-shaped black ash mark on your forehead to show that you are repenting??? Do you also have that one today and for the past years??? Please let me hear your views... :)
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@mobyfriend (1017)
• Netherlands
22 Feb 07
Where does it say in the Bible that you need to repent and abstain during Lent? If I'm not mistaken those were rules for the Israelites. It's necessary to wear that cross because Jesus already did.
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• United States
22 Feb 07
It doesn't use Lent by name in the Bible; but, anyone who has read the bible knows that prayer and fasting are quite prevalent amongst all it's pages..And Jesus, when a ill man was brought to him ..that had a demon..told those who asked why his apostles could not free him.. "some can only be cured by fasting and prayer" Jesus never released the people from this prominent practice but often spoke of it as a prelude to some healings..expecially those of the diabolic nature.)+
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• Netherlands
22 Feb 07
I mean that since we accepted Jesus as our Saviour we don't need to repent anymore. Since repenting means a change of mind and that is what we did when we accepted Jesus. And you haven't answered my question: Where in the Bible does it say we have to repent and abstain. And where does the ash-cross come from?
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• Philippines
22 Feb 07
Having that cross-shaped black ash mark on your forehead is a sign of a TRUE Christain and a devoted catholic. It doesn't really show that you are repenting (but it's best for you if you do) but it reminds us that everything on earth comes from the ash and into the ash we return. This also symbolized that you are a God-fearing person.
• United States
23 Feb 07
torch: it isn't just for catholics
• United States
22 Feb 07
That isn't necessarily true. When I was a senior in high school the Catholic students were allowed to come to school late so they could go to the service. They got the Ash cross on their forehead because they said it was cool. They were old enough to know better....it wasn't like they were 7. A lot of people still go just to make their parents happy. That isn't a sign of a true devoted Catholic. It is a sign of someone who wants to make their parents happy.
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@melody1011 (1663)
• India
22 Feb 07
The mark of ash on your forehead is a sign that you are a catholic and are ready to show the world that you are not ashamed of Chirst and his church. it is a sign that we want to be repentent and thats what the season of lent is for. I go for mass on ash wednesday as it marks the begining of the lenten season.
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• Philippines
22 Feb 07
Thanks for the reply...yeah, I also do the same. :)
• United States
22 Feb 07
For those who are protestant and say they dont believe..remember it is biblical to sit in sackcloth and ashes..It it a biblically accepted form of penance..of course that is something frowned upon by so many.. That being said; yes, I have had it put on my forehead for the past 42 years.. It is a placed in the shape of the cross and it reminds us of many things but most of all.it is to keep before us that as we came from the dust.to dus we shall one day return and that this life as we know it it passing. We shouldn't cling to it like we will be here forever;)+
• Philippines
22 Feb 07
Thanks for your reply..I do appreciate your thoughts. :)
@emarie (5442)
• United States
21 Feb 07
i used to do that when i was younger and forced to go to church every sunday. once i moved, i haven't done it since. i tried doing the no meat on firdays during lent but couldn't take because my husband and kids are not catholic, just me. so i wouldn't really have anything to eat for myself. i understand the meaning, but i don't really celebrate the religous meaning of it anymore. its not that i don't believe it the lord. its just that the roman catholic church i think is one of the only churchs that do that pratice of lent and fasting. if you're going to fast ACTUALLY fast not a short cut version of it. it is really interesting when you think about it.
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• Philippines
21 Feb 07
Thanks for the reply... Yeah, I got your point, there are really some things beyond our control. But am sure you're not engaging in these catholic rituals is not making a less good person. It's just really a matter of belief, anyhow, no matter what our religion would be, we still worship the same God. :)
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@chippy49 (171)
• United States
22 Feb 07
OMG are you my sister...When I was younger the whole church thing was pushed on us so hard that now that I am older I just see the church how it really is....I still love and believe in god, but I do not believe that the church should tell me what to do on sitting, standing, raising my hands, how much money I donate, how many times I show up when they cannot even keep their hands to themselves. I might not get the ashes on my forhead every year but still fast, give something up for lent, and eat fish every friday and ash wed.....I think it is just how you believe and what YOU think is right to do....
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@mynatenyi (226)
• Nigeria
22 Feb 07
rexy, for me it really doesnt count as wearing ash on your face doesnt make u a better christian nor does it increase people chances on being heaven bound, but all the same for me, i like being a christian that operates from the inner mind to the outter body. i think people should learn to operate that way than showing off, u know.
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• Philippines
22 Feb 07
Yeah, I got your point. Same thing as what the celebrating priest mentioned in his sermon, we should make sure that as your right hand does good your left hand doesn't know...I guess by that he meant that we don't really need to show off to public that you are trying to do good to others. But this ash cross has been a tradition in our family and I also feel good somehow if I have that on Ash Wednesdays. Anyhow, it's just a matter of beliefs actually, they way we perceive things. :)
@GardenGerty (160998)
• United States
21 Feb 07
Where I came from, protestants did not do this, and my Catholic friends that were devout enough to do this were all in Catholic school. I think I learned about this by embarrassing myself about twenty five years ago. Our churches now are beginning to recognize the signifigance to the devout of Ash Wednesday, and having services, communion, and reflection times. Not the ashes. The tradition I come from basically tries to refrain from calling extraordinary attention to themselves. When I was young no one wore religious jewelry, either. Times change. I would probably still not wear the ashes, but I would love to be able to take Ash Wednesday as a day of devotion.
• Philippines
21 Feb 07
Thanks for your response... your thoughts are greatly appreciated! Godbless!
@webeishere (36313)
• United States
22 Feb 07
I am a recovering Catholic so Ive gone through all the loops of this Lent episodes. I feel now that as long as you believe in a Higher Power it makes no differnece as far as what type of practices you observe to worship this H.P. So go for whatever you wish. I have not observed the "classic" Catholic religious traditions in over 30 years now but still Believe in God. Thanks for this topic.
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@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
22 Feb 07
Yes it is the first day of Lent, Oh my goodness they do not do this in Australia to anyone never mind for Ash Wednesday are you sure that this is what they were doing. No I do not think that it is right at all to mark your forehead with a black cross. I have been to church for Ash Wednesday but the priest never did this to any of his congregation.
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• Philippines
22 Feb 07
Hi Kathy, I don't know exactly how you celebrate Ash Wednesday in Australia. But yeah, here in the Philippines, the Catholic believers used to have the celebrating priest or some other laymen mark a cross-shaped black ash on their forehead. And they wash it off only after sundown. That's the tradition I have grown up with. And now my boyfriend is also very religious so I still have these beliefs in me. :)
@Springlady (3986)
• United States
23 Feb 07
I went to the Ash Wednesday service at my church and it was a wonderful service. I did have the cross-shaped ash on my forehead. It is a sign of what Christ endured for me and I don't ever want to forget it.
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@jan1972 (80)
22 Feb 07
Fasting and abstinence has always been traditional within the churches during the period of lent which starts today (Ash wednesday). I don't think the cross is essential, as your repentance is something personal between you and god. In our home we don't go to church very often now, but we do give something up for lent, usually we start our diets now, or make all those resolutions that others made for the new year. We find that as it is a time of abstinence for god, then we are more likely to stick with it.
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• Philippines
21 Feb 07
Oh my! Yesterday was ash wednesday? Forgive me but I really do forgot! Oooopppsss. I missed it. I've always believed that it a sign of repentance and also preparation for lent. But I just forgot about it. Now that I have missed it, I should not be missing the most important part; Confession.
• Philippines
21 Feb 07
Things happen...well, I guess the least you could do is yeah, never miss the Confession. :)
• Philippines
22 Feb 07
As a Catholic we have that point of view, it has been with us from the past until now. But for me repentance is up to you if you go to church to have the black cross of ash or not. It is how you repent for the holy week, just a simple prayer from your heart.
• Ireland
22 Feb 07
I used to have this done when I was younger but not anymore. From what I know, in Catholicism at the end of lent there is Palm Sunday where everyone is given a piece of palm tree which is blessed. You're supposed to keep this in your house all year and on ash wednesday the following year, the ash that is put on your forhead is actually made from burnt palm. For some people it probably seems like a nice tradition that is carried over from one year to the next. But to me it is't a requirement that proves how much or how well you repent.
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• United States
21 Feb 07
I HAD to respond to this discussion because even as I type, I am sitting here with the black ash cross stuck right in the middle of my forehead. I do not believe that not getting the cross on your forehead will comdemn you but I do feel that it shows a commitment to your faith, especially when you wear it out in public among the masses of staring eyes. during Lent, I also abstain from meat, but this is mostly for myself. When I do show courage by going out with the ash on my forehead or fasting and abstaining, I actually feel better, which may just be a personal thing. I believe everyone should do what they feel is right in order to be a good person and believer, but it just so happens that taking part in the symbolic customs of my religion is one of my guidelines.
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• Philippines
21 Feb 07
Yes, I agree with you...it really makes you feel better knowing for yourself that you've done something you believe is right. thanks for replying, by the way... :)
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• United States
22 Feb 07
I didn't even realize it was Ash Wednesday until I was at the store yesterday and saw a lady with a big black "dot" on her forehead. At first I was like what the? Then I realized what day it was. I went to Catholic school so it was a big thing. I don't go to church anymore, nor to I believe in that stuff but part of me is still drawn to Lent. I always tried very hard to give something up for Lent and was the only one in my family that really didn't eat meat on Friday. Even though as a kid I didn't believe. I think I took it as a personal challenge and one year I actually made it all through Lent giving up whatever it was (I think it was potato chips when I was in 7th grade, lol).
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• Philippines
22 Feb 07
well today is thursday now and yes i attend the mass yesterday and i was supresed that we have an indian priest. anyway, i really do believe that no ones should feel obligated and forces to attend mass cause it just break the sense and the holiness of your faith. doing penance depends on how the person gets the message. some may do penance by abstining and some may do more excerside to become more healthy when the resurection day celebration comes. and all of this depends to the person. yesterdasy after attending that mass i decided to do penance by having only one meal instead of three and in alternative to that is just water and bread. this is the first time i will doing this since i feel so strong about it and i feel that it will bring something in me.
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@smkwan2007 (1036)
• Hong Kong
22 Feb 07
Putting cross shaped ash on the forehead is just a visible sign. I think it is more important that you really repent in you mind. So I don't it is necessary for that visible sign be put on one's forehead.
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• United States
22 Feb 07
I think of this more as a way to show your faith in public. I do not think that you will be condemned if you don't get the cross on your forehead. I got the cross on my forehead as well. For me it was a symbol of my faith and commitment to God and to the changes that He wants me to make in my life. I think that each person has their own reasons for either getting the cross or not doing so.
• Ireland
22 Feb 07
i dont think that it is necessary but in saying that i receive it every ash wednesday as it part of culture and the church reccommmend it but however whilst listening to mass this ash wednesday i heard the preist give a sermon about the pharisees and he said in a few short words that you should fast pray etc in silence and do not make it known if so why then did we receive the cros for surely god would have known that we are repenting- so if i were you would receive the cross anxd you'll feel better may god bless you
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@chadd_atl (288)
• United States
22 Feb 07
I've never been to an Ash Wednesday service before, but I've had numerous friends who have. It's not something in the Bible, but a tradition started by the church centuries ago. However, it is a great reminder of our mortality and to be repentant. If you're like that every day anyway, you don't need a specific time of year set to do it.
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