Kill it, Cook it, Eat it

March 5, 2007 3:33am CST
There is a program on BBC3 at 10.30pm for the next 3 nights about the meat industry. I thought it would be of interest to vegetarians and meat eaters alike. This is what the BBC website says about it: Series presented by Richard Johnson which follows the journey of farm animals from the pasture to the plate. In a specially constructed studio built around a working abattoir, guests watch as the animals are brought in for killing. The animals are then cooked and eaten in the studio by the audience. In the first programme, three beef cattle are brought in for slaughter from a local farm. With scenes which some may find upsetting. If you can't view it but are interested I am going to review it on my blog http://recipesforvegans.blogspot.com
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@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
5 Mar 07
Is this the kind of programme that's supposed to turn people to vegetarianism? Or is it an objective documentary on how things are done? As long as they can show that the animals are not subjected to unnecessary suffering, I have no problems with that. As humans, we're omnivorous and a balanced diet consists in eating meat, various animal products, and vegetal fibre. Now, I don't contest people's choice not to eat meat -- although I consider it slightly unhealthy from a medical point of view -- but it's definitely not for me. I just enjoy meat too much.
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5 Mar 07
I don't know from what perspective the program is going to be shown from. I was told about it by a vegan, but it doesn't mean it is anti-meat. I will find out later!
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@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
5 Mar 07
I'll read your report with interest. :)
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• United States
6 Mar 07
Thomas, at lest plaese don't say that you enjoy meat. You enjoy cow, pig and chicken. Human are not ominvorous. Humans are not born to eat meat, humans are teached to eat meat, some were forced. My mother forced me to eat meat when I was small.
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@nancyrowina (3850)
5 Mar 07
I've seen the advert for this where the roast chicken returns to it's original form (it grows back it's feathers and feet and head and gets up) which is quite disturbing. I hope it changes peoples attitudes to meat and how much they consume, since meat has been processed for us people seem to have forgotten what it actually is. If more people were aware of what animals go through just to end up on our plates perhaps people will seek out the other options. I don't have digital television so will miss this but I'll interested to read what you say about it.
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@mobyfriend (1017)
• Netherlands
6 Mar 07
I have not seen the program because over here it starts one hour later and seeing something like this just before midnight well you get the idea. I've been reading your blog though amd your viewpoint is very interesting since you seem to clearly see the promoting of meat eating by manipulating the shots with lengths of time. Or manipulating the audience by putting maybe only one vegetarian in the audience. I wonder if the program would have been different if there had been room for discussion afterwards (was this the case?). Anyway thanks for the review so far.
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6 Mar 07
I think the program makers would have said that they had a discussion afterwards, but they talked to a couple of members of the audience that were eating the meat and saying they were glad they knew the animal was healthy and then a beef farmer, so not what I would consider a discussion.
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
5 Mar 07
I personally think it's cool that some ppl choose to be vegan or whatever...but frankly i don't see the point in making programs to encourage it. Do they expect us to feel bad and quit eating meat? please, we're adults. I hate people who mistreat animals, but i also hate ppl who destroy forests to make farms in brazil and grow vegetables...i don't like demagogic messages.
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6 Mar 07
This program was certainly encouraging people to eat meat. It might seem a strange way to do it, but it was showing how clean and healthy the animals that are slaughtered are and the quality of the meat. There was only one vegetarian on the program and about 50 meat eaters so it wasn't balanced at all.
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
6 Mar 07
information is nice, but information given that way shows a clear previous position in the one who gives it, against meat eaters in this case, so it loses all credibility. It's obvious that some people abuse animals and that sometimes animals are treated badly. Aren't humans as well anyway? if you want to inform people don't do it just saying that sometimes people do bad things to animals...that information is incomplete...besides eating animals is natural since we've been doing so since we're humans, we've been hunters and fruit eaters way way before we discovered agriculture. Eating meat is healthy and that should be explained as well, what is not healthy is an unbalanced diet, with or without meat, doesn't matter.
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@Galena (9110)
5 Mar 07
I don't think it is about making people want to stop eating meat. it's about giving people the facts and letting them make an informed descision. I think it's important that every person who eats meat should understand its origins. that way they'll care enough to choose ethically produced meat over factory farmed, or if they feel it is right to do so, become vegetarian or vegan.
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@bluewings (3857)
5 Mar 07
I know those two lines ''kill it,cook it,eat it'' and ''from pasture to plate'' will get my attention and from reading it I am convinced that if I was on that programme ,I'd perhaps find it very hard to continue as a non-vegetarian after that.I will take a look at your blog.But,please don't scare me with it.
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5 Mar 07
I am hoping to make it an accurate report of what they say. I won't be able to make it too graphic as I won't have photos of what is shown. I will try to make it factual but it isn't possible to be completely unbiased when reporting anything.
@bluewings (3857)
5 Mar 07
I understand.I will check out your blog for the report.
@Galena (9110)
5 Mar 07
I think programmes like this should definitely be shown. it bothers me when people that eat meat bury their heads in the sand about its origins. I think that if you eat meat, as I do, you have a duty to understand and care about where that meat comes from. if you can't watch it you have no place eating meat. however what we really need is a programme like this to compare the entire process , showing free range/organic meat production, alongside factory farm production. that way hopefully more people would cut down on the amount of meat they eat, as it's really not vital to every meal, and make those meals with meat that they do eat count. so free range, organic, local. more expensive, so eat less, less often, but it truely does taste better, and buying it you are supporting the more ethical production methods. the more people choose to buy free range, the cheaper it will get, look at what happened with free range eggs. as the price gap gets smaller then more people will make the right choice. but meat should never be cheap. if a chicken only costs a few pounds in a supermarket, then just think how they managed to raise it, feed it, house it, transport it, slaughter it and package it for that piddling amount. and meat is often treated like a filler ingredient in meals. if you don't make a meal with meat something you thoroughly enjoy then what a waste of a life. I have a lot more respect for vegetarians and vegans than I do for my fellow omnivores that would rather stay in ignorant bliss about their food.
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@bonbon50 (659)
• United States
5 Mar 07
It's nice to see that someone who partakes of eating meat is not afraid to school themselves about it, as you have to an extent. Unfortunately, free range meat just isn't practical when it comes to mass production. Most poultry farms (and therefore pork, etc.) keep these animals in cages only big enough to house them and feed them until slaughter. Stacked on top of one another. By the time a sow goes to slaughter, it usually has it's skin rubbed raw because it grew in the cage and couldn't move. Think of turkeys and Thanksgiving. Probably at least 70% of households cook a turkey on Thanksgiving. Think of how many people live in your city alone, then state. Now try to imagine those turkeys being 'free range'. It isn't practical to raise more than 1% of those this way. Farmers can't afford the land it takes to let turkeys actually roam as if they would naturally. Now think of the turkeys that grace tables on Thanksgiving across the States. Sadly, these things are raised in only an area with enough room to house them; not even being able to turn around. I know there are a lot of people who would rather no know the facts about our meat industry. But in a way, it's much like child abuse. It doesn't stop just because you want to deny the facts that it does happen. I'm not trying to tell anyone not to eat meat, but just school themselves on how this food source is really 'raised'.
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@ArsonCuff (3114)
• United States
6 Mar 07
That almost sounds interesting..don't get that channel, but then again I have seen animals get killed before and I still eat meat.
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@bethack52 (407)
• United States
5 Mar 07
I think this will be an interesting show, however I dont think it will change meat eaters minds at all, this is something that goes way back, eating meat will never be a thing of the past, I think its great that people can decide not to eat meat, but being raised on it for me it would be kind of hard not to, chicken the most I could give up everything else but not chicken or sea food i love sea food, Have a good day!!
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@babykay (2131)
• Ireland
5 Mar 07
hi there - I won't be watching this as I will find it way too upsetting. I don't eat meat and I eat almost no dairy. But I hope that others see this who might be persuaded to reduce their meat intake. Well done to BBC for tackling this topic. There are a lot of vested interests here, not least the massive meat industry who want us to believe that meat is an essential part of our diet - yeah right. Well done to yourself also for bringing up this topic on mylot. I know I should bring it up more often myself but I just get depressed by some people's attitude as well as the heartless cruelty that seems to get worse, inherent in the meat and dairy industry.
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@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
5 Mar 07
Oh I am quite sure that the majority of people could not stand to watch an animal being killed, cooked and then eat it, I think that a lot of people would be turned off eating any meat if they seen exactly what the process was for doing this, it would not turn me off as I have seen what they do when they butcher animals but I know for others it would be a different matter.
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@rosie_123 (6113)
5 Mar 07
Strangely enough we were talking about that at work this morning. There are actually 3 of us vegetarians in the group I work in - my friend Qassim was adamant that everyone should watch this programme as it would show them what really goes on, and quite possibly put many peoplreof meat eating for life, but Sarah and myself decided we were too queasy, and weak-stomached. I know it is a worthwhile thing to show, and I do hope it has some effect on carnivores everywhere here, but I would cry for days if I saw stuff like that on TV, so I will not be watching it. To be honest I get up at 5.00am so I'll be fast asleep long before that time anyway!
5 Mar 07
Be a vegetarian or a long time meat eater one one must have some sort of feeling for a slaughtered animal.In this day and age, one could get a perfectly balanced diet without the need for meat.Bring back canibalism thats what I say, and leave the poor animals alone.
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@jigishap (595)
• India
6 Mar 07
Hi michelledarcy, Thanks for sharing this information I will watch it if my hubby is not stuck with cricket
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• United States
5 Mar 07
Looks like I have something to watch for once on TV I love stuff like that. I still can't enjoy chicken after going to the slauter house in culinary school. That is some Evil stuff.
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@mobyfriend (1017)
• Netherlands
5 Mar 07
As far as I an see it would be a good way of showing city folk where their meat comes from. I don't know how it is now but I remember that children did not know that milk came from cows. However it would add more to the realism if they took an animal out of factory farming and killed that in the studio because most of our meat comes from that. I'm nit sure about the effect of the program. I remember that Jamie Oliver in his Italian cooking show had to kill his own sheep for his dish and he found it awful at first but yet it not deter him from eating meat. I think most people will gag at the killing but will have no problem eating afterwards. But keep us posted.
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@manindia (16)
• India
5 Mar 07
i love to eat meat, i will as per some discussion here that it is going to change me to veg or not.