we must confront Radical Islam
By revdauphinee
@revdauphinee (5703)
United States
March 27, 2007 11:33am CST
In an interview on BBC's newsnight the principle of an Islamic school in Acton England,admitted to using textbooks that describe Jews as 'apes" and "repugnant" ,and Christians as "Pigs." The King Fahd accademy's principal
defended the use of the books as part of its curriculum for school children some as young as five.asserting that the racist sections are being missrepresented (HOW?)
Dr Alyusul we dont teach hatred on the contrary such books are common in the middle east !However the discovery in England is deeply disconerting!europe has seen this kind of stuff before and it led to the gas chambers of Adolf Hitler!
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13 responses
@clownfish (3269)
• United States
8 Apr 07
Hi! I agree completely! Someone posted that Islam "won" because they are leaving the holocaust out of textbooks so it won't offend muslim children. Those same children are doomed to repeat history if they aren't allowed to learn from it. That's censorship at it's most destructive objective. I guess they think if they can convince themselves that Hitler didn't already do it, they can get away with it. NOT!
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
13 Apr 07
It would have been much better if you had quoted the exact phrase the book(s) contain instead of simply saying 'In an interview on BBC's newsnight the principle of an Islamic school in Acton England, admitted to using textbooks that describe Jews as 'apes" and "repugnant",and Christians as "Pigs." '
There is no Islamic text book that describes Jews or Christians or any other human being as pigs or apes.
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@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
14 Apr 07
I would still like to see some details. Yes I havent read all the religios books. But the only reference I could have come up with what you have posted is from Quran Sura AlMaida, let me quote it here for you:
"SAY: "Shall I announce to you something worse than this as a recompense from God?"' Those whom God has cursed and become angry at, and made them into monkeys and swine, and who serve the arrogant ones, are in a worse plight and even further astray from the Level Path. When they come to you, they say: "We believe," while they have entered with disbelief and they leave with it. God is quite Aware as to what they have been hiding. You will see many of them plunging into vice and hostility, and living off graft. What they have been doing is so wretched! If their rabbis and scholars had only forbidden them from speaking sinfully and living off graft! How wretched is what they have been producing."
http://www.isgkc.org/translat.htm
Other than this I do not think there is any reference to what you have mentioned. Yes I am a Muslim, and would like to believe you too, if you can prove your words to me.
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
13 Apr 07
and you Naseem00 have read every text book ever writen on the subject !Get real !with all due respect i would rather take the word of the BBC than
yours The britiash broadcasting company would not state this if they did not have proof to back them up !Oh but i forget you are muslim you believe no one but your self!
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
14 Apr 07
look I reported to you the information i had it came from the BBC whoom i believe get over it !you believe in your religion I dont it is as simple as that !my faith tells me if people dont wish to listen we should shake the sand from our shoes and move on I am doing just that i sugest you do likewise!
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
25 Apr 07
I don't know why there is such blinders and 'tolerance' for this! Lately I am wondering how much of Europe is now Islamic.. and how many of those are radical? Now if Islamic school children are taught this.. no wonder so many become radicalized.. I think the world hates chrisitaniity/conservativism/ and christian traditionalism so much, that they are busy villainizing and attacking christianity and conservativism (the foundation of western civilization) as great evil and danger, while the real danger multiplies and grows.. How crazy is this?
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
25 Apr 07
Here is source to the actual news from BBC, to which the poster of this thread never tried even once to point out because this was going to make her claim void,anybody going through this story from BBC will definately understand how she is trying to twist facts.
"A Saudi-funded Islamic school says it is removing from text books controversial passages which allegedly brand other faiths as "worthless".
"The controversial pages within the books are not taught within the academy, however, in view of the public interest I have decided to remove those chapters" (Dr Sumaya Aluyusuf)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6337299.stm
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
25 Apr 07
so crazy that people will not wake up till we are wearing burkas on the streets of the usa then maYBEE they will se that i was right when freedom is no more!
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
2 Apr 07
I think we must confront everything that is radical!!! Christians can be just as radical as Muslims, as can any other religion. Every faith has it's radicals that take things too far, and every faith has its peaceful faithful, that change the world for the better.
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@raheel07 (485)
• Pakistan
11 Apr 07
They have just used the name of religion to create controversy I guess. There was a war between taliban and american government and not inter-religious war. Taliban and Osama Bin Laden themselves are birth of America when they were trained to fight against Russia. When America got all the benefit from taliban they just said bye bye. Taliban ruled in Afghanistan. I guess it was a backfire from Taliban for America because of this reason. They used religion just to propagate their message more intensely. This is what is my view and Islam teaches peace so these are Talibani Terrorists and not Muslims who are doing this.
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
2 Apr 07
when did a christian ever fly a plane into something like the twin towers od behead a newsman such as Daniel Pearl on tv ????
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@lloydanthony111 (4698)
• United States
8 Apr 07
I just wish these people would remove themselves from the Dark Ages and contribute something positive to society.
Why not take all that pented up negative energy and find a cure for aids?
How about contributing to the technological boom that's going on throughout the world?
How about developing a car that can get 70 miles per gallon?
This would bring them the respect they desired. Beheading people, bombing buildings, bombing markets and being in a killing frenzy will never get them the respect they seek.
The rest of the world is not going to put up with this nonsense much longer.
Lloyd
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
8 Apr 07
I pray to God you are right however i dont see it soon so many politiacaly correct folk refuse to admit htere is a problem how can the world defeat an enemy it wont even admit is one????
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
14 Apr 07
hon dont hold your breath they want only to take lives not to save them!
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
13 May 07
suitsme, I was going to say that too :) the chinese invented gunpowder
@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
17 Apr 07
ignorance has blinded you rev.
Christianity can be dangerous too.
what did Hitler believe in?
really, you have not done any research on islam to make any sort of accusations.
on the other hand, yes, all radicalism must be stopped, but, is there such thing as a religious moderate?
i think not.
for if you believe that someone else is going to hell, how can you have any respect for them?
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
17 Apr 07
you my freind are incorrect i have done a lot of study of islam this is one of the reasons i am so adamantly against it I have read the quoran and many other religious studdies on this subject so i am not speaking from ignorance but from Knowing!there is an arab word "ijtihad'that they need to utilise but are not allowed by the faith to do so !ask a muslim friend what it means if they would do this i would respect them more
@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
17 Apr 07
research with an open mind is much different from research with religionism on your mind.
you read it because you wanted to debunk it, not because you were searching for "a path".
I ask you to read the bible and try to debunk it as well. Also, the koran has been taken from the bible, so anything wrong you find in the koran has its origins from the bible.
@tigertang (1749)
• Singapore
13 May 07
Radical Islam has alot to answer for and many countries and I think there is a case where Islam needs to go through a period of Reformation in the same way that Christianity went through. Islam like all religions needs to be separated from its spiritual and political aspects. Bad radical Islamic clerics and Osama Bin Ladin are as Muslim as Jerry Falwell and John Hagee are Christians or Ariel Sharon is Jewish.
Anyway, radical Islam needs to be confronted but it cannot be done by the West lecturing the people in the Middle East. Its got to be done by the people from that part of that world instead.
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
13 May 07
then it will never be done for "ijtihad" (an islamic tradition of independant reasoning )is forbiden to them so how then can they confront its evils?
@Mickie30 (2626)
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13 May 07
muslims hate Jewish people they hate Christians they hate everyone who isn't muslim. They will kill all people who are not muslims eventually, but we know this it says it in Revelations. However, I am not frightened because I know and serve the real God Jesus. hitler wanted to kill everyone who wasn't like him also.
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
13 May 07
amen and yes it is writen we will be persecuted but i for one intend to fight back !
@4ftfingers (1310)
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13 May 07
Saying that Islam use this method is like saying every Christian adopts the ideas of the Westboro Baptist Church, and is in itself a racist comment. Although you would like to, you can't blame the entire Islamic race for this.
I'm sure you're familiar with the Westboro Baptist Church, if you arn't here is a link - www.godhatesfags.com
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
13 May 07
disgusting yes but true neverthe less I find islam is disgusting when they will even use micky mouse to indoctrinate young children into there evil plans
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
27 Mar 07
however it is the voice of reason that is silenced my post on why i am not mslim was removed from this site !
@urbandekay (18278)
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13 May 07
Yes, sufficient for evil to triumph that good men do naught
all the best urban
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
13 May 07
and evil will triumph because to many do not recognise it as evil my friend!
@raheel07 (485)
• Pakistan
11 Apr 07
I don't know the authenticity of the report so I won't comment directly. Islam teaches love and peace. It orders its followers to respect other people's religion and followers. Still if these schools are doing such things, they are wrong. They are not spreading what ISLAM REALLY IS and they themselves haven't understood Islam. By saying that, I also want to add that every religion has some radical, orthodox and rigid groups but you can't say that the whole religion and every follower of that religion is bad. It is just that section which needs to be taught not to do so but in a peaceful way.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Mar 07
Thank you, when I mention the parallels beetween what is going on now and Hitler, people look at me like I am nuts. You are one of the few who is saying the same thing.
Thank you for confirming my belief that there is some intelligent life down here.
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
27 Mar 07
but my posts are getting removed probably by reposting from muslims the one i put on here stating why i am not a muslim was removed this morning however they allow muslim propagander daily on here i who am speaking out for the other side am removed!
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