How do you discipline your children or how would you?
By psspurgeon1
@psspurgeon1 (1109)
United States
October 13, 2008 3:34pm CST
I was just wondering how you all parent your kids... I have a six year old and two year old and I use time out for my 6yo but the 2yo is a bit young. She is getting to be a terrible twos and I'm not sure what to do with her. She doesn't seem to respond to time out or yelling, I'm at an impass with her. I don't think it's fair to my 6yo that her sister gets away with so much but I honestly don't know what to do with her right now. Any advice from parents who have been there or are there now would be great...
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
14 Oct 08
At two it's really hard to find an appropriate punishment. A time out chair works well if you stick to it. I don't know if your two year old has a playpen but that also works. Taking away a treat is another way "If you don't stop ?????, no cookie for you"...along those lines. It's not an easy age and I wish you luck.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
14 Oct 08
Well, I'm not a mom but I was a foster parent for a few years and I ran a state daycare for ages...so I've dealt with my share of kids.
When Hubby and I were foster parents we got a 4 year old girl that had pretty much been doing whatever she wanted with no consequence. From day one, I told her if she got in trouble she'd go to the corner for 15 minutes. I repeated 2-3 times so I knew she understood. I also explained what she could and couldn't do so there would be no doubt that she knew. Well, within the hour she'd gotten in trouble for hitting another child...both were sent to the corners. She cried and stamped her feet but she stayed there. Over the next couple of days she started realizing that I meant what I said. A friend of the family came by and when she heard about it she told me that the child wasn't going to learn anything standing in the corner all the time...I told her that wasn't true, she'd either learn to mind me or she'd learn she has very strong little legs. After about a week, she was a changed child. Ppl couldn't believe this was the same kid. She minded, she did what I told her, she could go places and behaved like a normal child instead of running and screaming through the store. Most of all, she followed the rules of our house.
Kids need that structure. They need to learn at an early age that there is a consequence for every action. At the same time, parents have to be consistant...otherwise kids get the wrong message (it's wrong one time but not the next) and they can't understand what their getting in trouble for. They also need to realize that for the most part these are phases and the kids do get through them...kind of like building blocks for the next step. I hope this helps you in some way.
[b]~~IN SEARCH OF PEACE WITHIN~~
**AGAINST THE STORMS, I WILL STAND STRONG** [/b]
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@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
14 Oct 08
Thank you, I think I will go a step further than luck and request some devine intervention!!! Yes, I definitly need to get a chair for time out. I have used a playpin in the past but anytime she is put in something with sides she sees it as her personal challenge to see how fast she can climb out of it. It is actually very appealing to her...She is a little mean monkey!!! My problem is lack of consistancy and I recognize that and will make the necessary changes to my daily life to give her the proper discipline...It is just soooooo HARD to figure out the rights and wrongs of good parenting!!! Thank you for your advise! All advice is needed and I will definitly be coming back for more on this issue soon! It's nice to have access to so many moms with good advice without ever having to leave my hosue!!!
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
14 Oct 08
I feel that it is very difficult to have a set pattern as each child is differenti have 3 children and i have had to use different methods of discipling with each of them.I personally have never believed in using the rod and feel that being firm in word is far more effective, also having a talk with them
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@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I don't personally believe in the rod method either. But I am finding that the different methods are difficult executing them in the middle of family time or an event. Gosh, this good parenting thing is tough. Thank you for your response!!!
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
14 Oct 08
Most welcome..it is a tough job bringing up children.It is a continuous learning process and no matter how many people advice you or how many books you read, at the end of the day, it is you and your child, and you have to listen to your own self and act accordingly i feel.
@rubired (78)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I've heard so many people say,"I'm going to give my child everything that my parents didn't give me".
But I am truly against that.
I don't believe giving them everything will make them value things in life.
That's the main thing I want to teach them.
VALUE
I want them to see that they're lucky children for sleeping in a bed, having food, and clothes. Because there are many out there who do not.
I want them to learn how to respect themselves and others. And not to make fun of them.
And of course, to make them have an outlook on life.
To look at it positive, but to also know that there will be bad times.
Of course, probably half of these things "I" can't teach them.
They have to learn on their own. But I would want to show them the way. They can continue on their own.
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@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I am one of those parents, but thats speaking of the big picture not just monetary gain. But I do agree about teaching the value of things and for them to think that they are lucky indeed. Thank you...
@wanderer086 (759)
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14 Oct 08
If time out does not work try ignoring her when she is bad and rewarding her when she is good. Make a special fuss of your other child as well so that she does not feel left out. I know it is hard to ignore a child who is being naughty and wanting attention but it should work. Eventually she will learn that she will get your attention when she is good and not when she is doing something that you do not approve.
@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
14 Oct 08
Ignoring her would be good except that when she's kicking her sister it's hard to ignore that. And when I try to explain to my 6yo to not to respond loudly to her it makes it worse, she doesn't get it. She thinks that Kendyl is getting away with it if we ignore it or that I don't care what sister does to her so when she is frustrated it would be ok for her to retaliate.... The kids get alot of attention, it's hard to imagine sometimes that they could need more but I know it's true. Thank you for your response...
@shauna31 (11)
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13 Oct 08
Parenting for each child is different as each has their own unique personality. I was lucky with my son when he was in his two's and had little trouble. Have you noticed the scared look in your childs face when you yell at them, I did and I regretted it. I found talking to my son about what he was doing wrong and drawing his attention to some other activity helped. Also you say 'Time Out' does not worry her. How long is the time out and where do you send her for time out? For this exercise to work effectively it needs to be in a boring place, such as sitting facing a corner with nothing to distract her. Also when you give her time out, say "I want you to sit here for eg three minutes and think about what you have just done and then we will talk about it. When the time out is finished sit down with her, tell her why you are upset with what she has done and ask her what she can do better the next time. Of course you are talking to a two year old so you need to keep this discussion at their level. As I said talking to my son was more effective than any punishment and still is today, he is now 15. Hope that helps
@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
14 Oct 08
You know, ironically enough, neither of my kids at age two have fear. I can yell to get their attention and my 2yo will just look at me and grin or not even acknowledge me at all!!! My time out usually is on her bed but I'M GOING to have to get a special spot that is just for this. And I have went through everything you said w my 6yo with excellent results. She is a great child now, very thoughtful and caring and she minds pretty well so I know for a fact that it works, it's just hard to stop a family activity to drag your 2yo away from the scene and then sit in the house all day to get the time out to work effectively. My problem is not the lack of knowledge it's the lack of willpower, which is exactly what is making the situation worse!!! But thank you so much for your response, it is true and I need to be the one to be consistant!!!
@shauna31 (11)
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15 Oct 08
You commented that if you yell at your two year old she will just grin or completely ignore you. I marvel at kids intellect even a two year old, by grinning or completely ignoring you she has taken control of the situation, not you! She already knows that you are either not going to follow through with what you are threatning or what ever you do dish out she's not too worried about it.
Another thing that came to my mind, is this behavior attention grabbing and when she does get your attention, she grins and says to herself "That worked"?
Are you a stay at home mum?
Reason being she would have you to herself all day and then when your six year old comes home you probably spend a bit of time with her asking about her day or about homework.
The two year old might then feel left out and do things to attract your attention even if it is bad behavior.
Maybe a couple of mornings in day care would help, but there again I have know of a few perfectly behaved kids in day care but when they get home, they become tigers.
Just a couple of thoughts to help you out, but it all comes down to discipline and consistency.
Good Luck
@mrsspl (1)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I so wish that I had an answer for you!!! I am having such problems with my kids. My 6 year old thinks he's 12 and my 4 year old thinks he's a tough kid, and then my 1 year old little girl is a whiner...lol. I can't give them all the same punishment, however I can't find specialized punishments for each of them because it's so difficult, and then I cave and they get their way. Maybe I need the punishments huh??? I get so exxasperated that I can't even function as a human being most days. Then at night when it's quiet and I'm all alone, they're tucked in their beds all nice and sweet I cry because I told myself that I wouldn't lose my temper today, or I wouldn't "feel" this way about what one kid said to the other, etc. I watched Oprah the other day..had women on there that was so stressed out in life they couldn't function on a day to day basis.....so if someone can find an answer for you, please send something my way as I'm at my wits end!!!
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@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I know all about the bedtime cry. I first expierenced it around this time with my first daughter. I am not quite as frustrated though as I was the first time so that gives me hope that I can deal better this time around as long as I get things under control quickly. Your case is a toughie though cause starting a punishment consistantly for 3 different ages and stages is going to be difficult. It needs to be done though. I reccommend getting a copy of the nanny 911 book and following it to a T. The first time you slip up and give in and it all starts over and probably will be worse. I guess I need to think logically in my own scenario though and stop being a mushy mommy. Good luck to you and get the book, that or just call them and see if they will come to your house!!! You have to start now or it will be to late.
@angelface23 (2494)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I have a two year old. We mix spanking and time outs for her. I don't like to spank her personally, dad does most of that. We have a speech pathologist come and she suggested to get a timer and get her a chair or use a specific chair in a specific corner. Don't change it up, keep it the same. When she acts up (ours spits and hits) to give her a verbal warning, then a time out. Sit her in the chair. If she gets up just keep putting her in there until she stays then it's one minute for each year so for her it's two minutes. The timer signals to her that she's done. Don't look at her or pay her any attention while she's in time out. It might take some time but eventually she will understand and just your warning of time out usually will get her to stop.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
14 Oct 08
what do you feel comfortable doing what works for one child, may not work for other my grand baby is a hand full and he is hard headed he continuely mess with everthing the only thing he don,t touch is something hot he will tell you hot ,hot he run from it so he is not crazy by any means.he stayed with me ,for 2 days i had to pop them hands that did not help stick his lip out and continue to meddle and i love him so much i try talking to him more then anything.he only settle down when he is sleepy other then that he is busy all day long.oh yes if you give him a book he will turn the pages for about 45 minutes this is peace for me, for a minute.i was trying to work on-line yesterday it was very difficult for me with him here.i hope you find something that works for you.
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@peedielyn (1207)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I time them all out. I have 4. They know right from wrong but sometimes tend to lean on the latter side. I found that if you get down to their level and look them in the face and gently ask them what is going on? YOu know what you are doing is not nice, so why are you doing (whatever it is)? Talk to them like they are little people but more grown up. They seem to understand better. 2 years old is perfect for time out. Just do it for shorter periods of time. And when you let the little one up, ask "do you know why you went to time out?" and see if you get a response. Deter them from the problem is a good way to do it. If the little one is climbing up the curtains, tell her that she is hurting the curtain rods feelings. I knwo, it's crazy but that gives them a sense to stop and think, "how will this affect......?" It seems childish, but they pay attention. Yelling doesn't work. I thought it did and found out I was wasting my voice. They shut off the hearing button 12 seconds after you start. Good Luck honey. It only gets better!!
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
13 Oct 08
2 years is not too young for time-outs. Just sit her on the time-out spot, explain why she is there and that she has to sit there for two minutes, which will start over, if she gets up. She'll eventually get the message. When the time-out is over, repeat to her why she sat there and if she does the same thing again or other no-nos that's where she'll have to sit and think about what she has done.
We started time-outs at two for all three of our kids. Our youngest is two and he knows that he'll be there for a long time if he doesn't remain seated until the timer goes off.
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@psspurgeon1 (1109)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I definitly agree w the time out's, it's just that we haven't found the spot that works for us yet. She climbs out of cribs and playpins, the other rooms in my house she finds interesting and cant sit still for the time intended. But a friend of mine once told me that it's not about removing all interesting items from the time out spot, it's about seperating the child from yourself that is the most important thing. Shy of putting her in a small closet it would be hard to find a boring spot in our house!!! My 6yo went through this exact same behavior and I remember feeling like I wanted to rip my hair out and that she must be abnormal. I called in some therapists for her and when they told me she was perfectly normal, I went to therapy. I may be headed back there. I just have trouble w this stage and I don't know why. It is also hard to disipline a 2yo and a 6yo at the same time bc they require different things, different methods of time out, different levels of attention, and my 6yo just goes when I tell her. I have to reacustome myself to dealing with a 2yo. And my 2yo is a player. She can really turn on the sweets when she needs to. She will look at you and say "I love you mommy" (keep in mind she just turned 2 a couple weeks ago) and she will say "thank you mommy" "sorry mommy". UUURRRGGGHHHH. I am actually at a place where I love my kids so much it hurts. It hurts me more then it hurts them to disipline them.
Thank you for your response though, it is nice to read my own thoughts coming from someone else and to be reminded of the right thing to do. Sometimes in my day to day life I forget what I know and revert to the clueless mom that started out 6 years ago without the slightest idea of how to be a good parent!!!
@dustinnikki (301)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I'm kind of in the same situation as you are only I have a 7 year old and a 2 year old. I have always used the time out method or I will take things from them or my 7 year old will lose certain privilages like playing computer games. Our 2 year old on the other hand is a bit more of a problem. He doesn't understand the timeout thing at all.
I do try to make him sit in one place though. If he gets down, I put him back. If he is throwing toys, he loses the toy he threw. I try not to yell at either one of my kids because doing that only makes them worse. It's almost like I went to their level I guess. A lot of times if my 2 year old is getting into things, I get eye level with him and sternly tell him no then I redirect him to something else. I don't have all the answers by far and believe me, I know what it's like! LOL
I understand that your older child may think like the younger one gets away with more and that you may feel the same. I tell our older one that he is still learning and doesn't really understand just yet. She does see him get into trouble but she also has somewhat of an understanding that he doesn't know better. At least as much as she does.
@jianguichun (13)
• China
14 Oct 08
I have no children.In my opinion,you must make your older kids understand what she can do or what she cant do.when she do good thing ,you must praise her ,on the contray pulish her.To your younger kids,it is no problem when her sister set up model.
@TenmaMetsuki (452)
• Bahrain
14 Oct 08
I'm not a parent, but I have two four yr olds (a niece and nephew, with a 2nd nephew coming in the way) living with me here, and I can tell you this much from my experience with the terrible way my parents are getting these kids raised up against their parents' wishes:
never, EVER, spoil your kids "too" much! NEVER! The all-famous phrase of "ooh, he's/she's just a kid" is a parent's definate downfall, for sure. Saying that phrase makes it excusable to overlook things they do, things they say, the way they generally behave and showering them with gifts (which is definitely an absolute no no, since giving them so many gifts and toys and getting them everything they ask for makes them greedy and insulent lil kiddies that will try to control u for life, and u'll never be able to satify them, with them constantly requesting new things and they'll never even share with other kids)
as I said, I'm not a mommy so I dunno much, but that's the best advice I could give u, don't spoil ur kid too much, it is good to be all loving and caring and all, but sterm discipline is a way of caring too, unless it goes overboard; like constantly yelling at them. That's wrong too, because it'll just teach them to always yell and scream too, and will turn into noisy and annoying lil brats.
If time-out isn't working, try taking something away for a while that's very dear to her as a punishment, telling her with a calm and serious tone that you'll give it back if she behaves well and keeps at it for a while (giving it back right away won't help the cause)
Oh, and I know u probably already know this but kids tend to be a lot more naughty and bratty if they're bored, if that's the real reason try getting her games that will consume a lot of her time yet be beneficial and teach her things, it's good for a two yr old
I know this was a bit too long but hope I helped ^w^
@mykidsmom (15)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I started time out with my daughter when she was 18 months old. Her pediatrician reccomomded it. I would put her in the pack and play for her time out (that is the only time it was used) As she got older she knew to sit in time out. She is now 2 1/2 and has never attempted to "get out" The only thing I wish I would have done diferent is not count to three. Now I have to count to Three before she will listen half the time. But she knows if I get to three then she is in time out.