Why it that most men have no problem making babies but........
By Magikrose
@magikrose (5429)
United States
December 17, 2006 9:15pm CST
dont want to stick arround and help support them?I have 4 kids. My 2 oldest have diffrent fathers and my 2 youngest are by my husband. MY 2 oldest fathers are not arround to see them nor do the send me any money to help me support them. My huabsnd has to not only pay for his own but he also has to foot the bill for my 2 oldest, which he does willingly because he does love my 2 oldest.
It is not fair for my husband to have to fully support these 2 children when they have fathers who are perfectly capable of helping care for them.
What is it that drives men away?
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46 responses
@Cindyh2k (308)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I think that the ongoing problem of not taking responsibility for our actions occurs in both males and females. It has become too easy for a parent to walk away from a child without looking back - many times the parent left holding the bag does not find out what options are available to them.
The courts will award child support even if the parent does not wish to be a part of that child's life. Not only is it the responsibility of the parent who left to pay child support, but it is the responsibility of the parent with the child to use the options that are available to obtain that child support.
I, too, agree that it is not fair to your husband to provide for another man's children, but if he does this willingly and is a true father to these children, kudos to him!!!
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Thank you for responding. My husband is the best thing to happem to me and my kids. I love him sometimes too much if that is possible. LOL
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
HOW DARE YOU JUDGE ME WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING ME. You do not know all the details to my history nor do I want to tell you now. What you said was not called for. I dont go into your discussions and put you down DONT COME INTO MINE AND PUT ME DOWN!!!!
Thank you Tse I really appreciate your support.
@BellasmamaTiff (2544)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Well, first of all, let me say that I understand where you are coming from. But, at the same time, its not fair to say MOST men. I am in this situation right now, I am getting married to a man that is NOT my daughter's biological father, but he supports us both. He has a child of his own that he supports as well. And I agree that it should be taken care of by the children's real father's, but, as sad as it is, this will probably NEVer happen, but we should just be thankful that we have found men that love us and our children enough to step up and do what their real father's should be doing! Huggers to you!
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
You are right it is not most men and i should have worded it diffrently. I just know too many women who are in the same boat as me and you and it hurts me to see them struggle like I have.
Please understand I am eternally gratefull for my husband. He is the best thing to happen to me and my 2 oldest children. If it were not for my husband I wouldent have the things I have today.
Thank you for commenting
@calvin222 (1606)
• India
18 Dec 06
i would like to ask what is it with women that they get demented about having a baby. i have seen women going totally beserk. Men by instinct look for 1.Financial security so that they can look after their progeny 2. a woman who will make a good mother and 3.a good housekeeper before they decide to have a kid. Women on the other hand want to start producing kids immaterial of the other realities of life.
@tsamcq (457)
• United States
18 Dec 06
That's just not true. Some women may produce kids immaterial of the other realities of life. I for one, have chosen to not have anymore kids because of daycare expenses so I can support them. So no, women don't just go aroind producing kids they can't take care of!
@WayneCasper88 (341)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I don't know why there are so many fathers who don't support their kids. I have 4 kids. I've been there for them since day 1.
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Kudos to you. There are few of your kind arround these days.
@barefoot1342 (7)
• United States
18 Dec 06
It's probably because he didn't want kids in the first place. Was he involved in the decision of whether or not to give birth to them or did you decide that yourself? Was whether or not to have babies something the two of you had discussed and reached a decision about? I'm guessing the answer to both of those questions is no, in which case it shouldn't be much of a surprise that they aren't involved now.
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Both men and I agreed to keep the baby. So that is not the problem. They said they wanted to be part of the babys life but then they left.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
18 Dec 06
What are you talking about? Men have just as much problems conceiving as women do. The only reason it seems that more women have problems is because there are more women on this planet than men, but believe me, it is common in men as well. How do I know this? My step-father cannot have children anymore thanks to his cancer. My friend's dad could not conceive because of his Type 2 Diabetes. My friend is an only child because of her dad's low sperm count. Do your research before saying anything?
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
This has nothing to do with not being able to conceve a child. Read my full discussion before responding. It is about the father helping make the baby and then after it is born leaving and not helping take care if the child.
LEARN TO READ. DONT TELL ME TO DO MY REASERCH FIRST. YOU NEED TO LEARN TO READ THE DISCUSSION IN FULL BEFORE YOU RESPOND.
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@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT. It does take 2 to make a baby and I shouldent be the only one to care for them. He helped make them and stated he wanted to be there yet he leaves me. I DONT THINK SO.
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ME WHEN YOU DONT KNOW ME.
@subhadiproy (847)
• India
18 Dec 06
well.. men are not worried to make babies as they don hav to b pregnant... it s u..u shud hav fored the to take precautions tht time.. and why did u went ahead wid having babies wid such ppl whom u knew were not faithfull ?
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
For starters I was engaged to both when I got pregnant with my kids. So I was under the impression we were going to get married. They were NOT unfaithfull to me untill they just up and left one day.
YOU SHOULDENT JUST SAY THINGS WITHOUT KNOWING ALL THE DETAILS FIRST. I NEVER SAID THAT THEY WERE UNFAITHFULL BEFORE I GOT PREGNANT DID I?
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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18 Dec 06
i think guys who dont stick arround to look after their own kids have a touch of the alley cat about them and should possibly be castrated. Extreme i know, but one of the blights on both society and childhood is men who do this kind of thing, wouldnt it be kinder all round if they could no longer do this?
@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
30 Dec 06
I think we need to start raising our daughters to believe in themselves, and teach them to not be so dependent on having men in their lives to take care of them, rather help them see the necessity for being an equal partner in a relationship. We also need to teach them to be more choosey with the men they get involved with, because I can guarantee you that the 2 fathers of your older children gave you warning signs that they were not going to be the type of responsible partner you need to have a relationship of any kind with. Had you allowed yourself to identify those initial characteristics in those men, maybe you wouldn't have chosen to become sexually intimate with them, maybe you would have communicated before hand and learned how they felt about bringing babies into the world--the signs of non-involved parent is always there, you just have to take the blinders off.
You can't force a person to be a parent, however you can go to court and at least pursue child support for the older two. But you should also be working to support the kids you helped make. Sorry, you chose to make 2 kids with 2 different men--and you need to equally financially support those kids with those 2 men, and not expect those 2 men to support those kids financially 100%.
You then went on to bring 2 more kids into the world. Well let me toss on you what most family courts toss onto men who try to use that excuse to pay lesser child support to previous kids they made--the courts tell them you are responsible for the first two kids you made first, and no one told you to go on to make more kids without being able to support the ones you already had. I know it sounds harsh, but you made this predicament you are in, and you don't get pity for it. You made bad choices twice that resulted in 2 kids, so pursue child support for them, and make sure you can equally support them, you shouldn't be rewarded with 100% support from these men because you made bad choices take equal responsibility for those choices. You are right your present husband shouldn't have to fully support your first two kids--you should be helping so you should get an adequate job to help alleviate your present husband's stress, and if you already have a job that's great--then pursue child support through the courts and let them grace the pay of the first two fathers.
@cindyspassions (510)
• Lampe, Missouri
18 Dec 06
The best way i can tell it is most men don't mature as fast as women, it is proven. i don't have any childeren by another all 3 of mine are from one man. and as far as we know he has none. only thing i can say for sure is don't hide who there real father is from them. my mom has hide that from my sister claming this one man to be her father and he was not. after 13 years it finally came out that he was not her dad (thank god) but our mom will not tell her or anyone who her dad is.
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
18 Dec 06
MY son knows who his father is. He has had opportunities to spend time with him. The problem is my sons father comes arround when it is convient to him.
MY daughter in a way I didnt want to tell her because her father lives so far away and last i knew didnt have any plans on coming back at all. My husband and I got involved with eachother when she was only 10months old so for a long time all she knew as daddy was my husband untill her real father decided to send her a christmas present and sign the card "Love Daddy" We didnt know what to say since at that time she could read a littl. So then we told her the truth.
@Lydia1901 (16351)
• United States
20 Dec 06
It's all about the hormones, sweety. They want to do it with many women as they can and don't want to take responsibilities for the consequences that comes with it.
@kawillow74 (1416)
• United States
19 Dec 06
Well it is not all men I have a great Husband we where very young when we had our kids and they are now 15 and 13 and we are still going strong but your new husband knew you had 2 kids when he married you so it must not bother him he must be a great man. As for the other 2 have you taken them to court to try and get support from them? Both mine and my husband father are not in the picture either. If you can make it without the other to do it I love my stepfather as if he is my own dad and your kids can and might do the same.And maybe they are better off without there real father which if he pays support he will have the option to see them.
@lafavorito (2959)
• Philippines
29 Dec 06
Commitment and responsibilities. Men like these just don't have the balls to raise a child. If the fathers of your 2 oldest helps you with the finances you're still compelled wo give him his rights as a father, but in your situation you can deny him everything. I'd say you're still lucky because your husband loves your 2 oldest children, you have your kids and they love you, their biological fathers doesn't matter anymore.
@nhtpscd (1416)
• Australia
19 Dec 06
I know how you feel My elder 4's dad went in 1995 stuck around occaisionally to 1999 and then stopped completely not a sign a call a card or nothing. I don't understand either they bond with them then like a switch it goes off. I agree it is not fair that new partners are given enough credit for the raising of non bio children.Even the child supp[ort system doesn't take it into account. Go you dads or mums raising non bio and boo to the bio sperm donors that don't care.
@guitarkidwr (224)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I honestly have no clue what drives them away, but I wouldn't go ahead and say most men. Most men don't do this, just some of them.